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    Africa was self exploiting long before white man arrived there.

    One tribe versus the other has been and still is its political style, losers becoming slaves to the winners of conflict, as was customary among most waring groups in the past.

    That weakness was exploited by the first non-black Africans to enter there, the Egyptians, using them as slaves thousands of years ago.

    More recently, during the last couple of millenia, Arab traders controlled the slave trade there, exporting and selling black Africans to any country who wanted cheap manpower and eventually in the last three hundred years black African slaves were bought and sold by Muslim Arabs to be exported to the Americas also.

    As Islam took hold by pain of death in Africa, black Africans became increasingly divided between Islamic and non-Islamic African tribes, the non-Islamic ones becoming Xtianised or remaining animist as European powers moved into Africa colonising it, as Muslim Arabs had been doing for more than 1,000 years before them.

    In the last 300 years, mineral wealth and other natural resources have boosted the export volume from Africa, and now China has moved in to attempt to corner the market of expoitable African wealth.

    No amount of NGOs and foreign aid into Africa is going to solve its problems ever.

    When African tribal groups can reach beyond traditional tribal divisionism, which have been exarcebated by firstly, Islamic religio-politics then secondly by European industrial materialism, a new and more cohesive continent of Africa may evolve.

    That day is a very long way off thugh, and will remain a distant point in time as long as every other nation, philosophy and religion on Earth interferes with Africa and the African people.
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    You can't hide from genetics though, and that is what shapes their nature and way of life..
    Low IQ, more testosterone, more violent tenancies etc etc


    Blacks are not "inferior" they're just different.
    They are superior athletes to us. They are hunter gatherers. We are thinkers.

    Those people have occupied that continent far longer than the most ancient of European civilisation..
    And they're still living in mud huts built with faeces and sticks

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog View Post
    Last week, while on a cruise. I read the book, 'Black Star Safari' by Paul Theroux.
    His conclusion is that Africa is a basket case, and the charities are running a huge racket of 'hunger porn', peddling upsetting images of starvation to make contributors feel guilty and donate, and then spending on imported 4-wheel drive cars to swan around in.
    Any decent school teacher is recruited by the charities as an aid distributor - emptying the schools of good black teachers.
    Theroux also points out that
    a) charity workers (as well as French soldiers) are the buyers for African child prostitution - which is proliferating to fulfill that demand.
    b) there is no sign that Africans subsequently volunteer to do free charitable work. They never pick up the ball.
    As for the Governments.
    "We will be approaching the international community to assist us in this regard," Mr Biti said.
    Theroux observes that the Government's just rely on foreign aid to provide the country's budget. They don't have to govern.
    'Black Star Safari'....I recommend it.
    Well I thought I'd take you up on your recommendation,
    but according to most reviews of the book, he's full of shit.
    It's not that Theroux is wrong to criticise the empire of aid. In some ways the situation is even worse than he says. Aid corrupts its recipients and its providers. Sometimes it actively contributes to conflict. The problem is that Theroux knows next to nothing about it. Aid is a failure, he says, because "the only people dishing up the food and doling out the money are foreigners. No Africans are involved". But the majority of employees of international aid agencies in Africa, at almost all levels, are Africans. In some African countries it is international aid agencies that provide the most consistent source of employment.

    This, it may be argued, is itself a problem, creating a comprador class dependent on foreign patronage. But the problem is not, as Theroux says, that Africans are not involved; it is, if anything, the opposite. How come he doesn't notice this? Because, despite his hissy fits about white people in white cars who won't give him lifts, he never actually visits an aid project or the office of an aid organisation.
    It is a pity, though, that Theroux has not read more carefully about some of the places he visits. Even when he is not talking about aid workers there are a great many inaccuracies.
    Sounds like a typical Teakdoor windbag

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    No end of idiots that can turn it around to blame the white man for the black man fucking it up real good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
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    why does the Aid money keep coming in for these crony regimes though?
    Kind of bribe money....keeps those in good stead for the continued rape of a continent. Some might even see these "international" activities as sorted blackmail.

    The legacy of brutal and harsh colonialism still strives in Africa.
    It's just referred to differently now.
    A bribe of sorts, to pretend we care a toss.

    Aid does no more than steal money from poor people in rich countries for rich people in poor countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter View Post
    Negros will always be Negros and Africa will never change.


    You have to laugh though.. - "Robbed resources".. As if it made any difference?

    Blacks have inhabited that continent for thousands of years oblivious to the concept of "mineral wealth".

    Hell..... we had to take the WHEEL to them
    China has the right idea, go in with smiles and truckloads of money instead of guns, which don't work anyway in a civilised world.

    For the first time in their history blacks see foreigners giving them free money and infrastructure, and all they have to do in return is sign away their agricultural land and resources. Least you can expect when getting fcuked is a kiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter View Post
    You can't hide from genetics though, and that is what shapes their nature and way of life..
    Low IQ, more testosterone, more violent tenancies etc etc


    Blacks are not "inferior" they're just different.
    They are superior athletes to us. They are hunter gatherers. We are thinkers.

    Those people have occupied that continent far longer than the most ancient of European civilisation..
    And they're still living in mud huts built with faeces and sticks
    Well said, but not sure this sort of truth sits well with teakdoor.

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    Having worked in several African countries over the years, I decided I like the place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breny View Post
    Google UK gives RSA a grant of Ł20 million......2 months later the Presisdent ofRSA buys a Ł17.5 milion mansion in Italy/Swiss border.

    Rant over.
    South Africa and Rhodesia were fine when the whites ran it.

    kinda says it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter
    Those people have occupied that continent far longer than the most ancient of European civilisation.. And they're still living in mud huts built with faeces and sticks
    ignorance is bliss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby451 View Post

    South Africa and Rhodesia were fine when the whites ran it.
    From a white perspective and interpretation, of course.

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    of course, that is correct.

    but what is so wrong with that?

    if the blacks can't sort their own shit out, then it's up to the White man to take over

    it's the way the World works

    love it or leave it

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    Oops, I appear to have inadvertently logged onto Stormfront - White Nationalist Community and, as always, find myself bemused at the claims of superiority coming from persons who clearly are anything but.

    Those who are standing on the shoulders of giants being nothing but a burdensome load whilst judging others.

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    ok, so how do you account for the fact that when the whites ruled SA and Rhodesia, the place was up and running, but now they've turned to shit?

    stormfront?
    sounds like you are mr PC with a tweed jacket - ever hung out in the slums of Lagos - let's see how liberal you'd be then

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    ^Reality is a bitch. Nice one Toby451. I think your gonna last here. Being a prick isn't all bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby451
    ok, so how do you account for the fact that when the whites ruled SA and Rhodesia, the place was up and running, but now they've turned to shit?
    What has changed exactly? It's still the majority suffering at the hands of the minority if you ask me: meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
    Quote Originally Posted by Toby451
    sounds like you are mr PC with a tweed jacket
    I wish you'd make up your mind... One minute I'm right-wing, the next 'Mr. PC'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShrewedPunter View Post

    Blacks are not "inferior" they're just different.
    They are superior athletes to us. They are hunter gatherers. We are thinkers.
    They are not superior athletes. Blacks are the race that wins the fewest medals at the summer olympics. The only events were they feature prominently is on the track, and boxing. They're good for nothing in the pool, on bicycles, on horses, in gymnastics, olympic weightlifting, wrestling, just to name a few.

    They don't feature at all in winter sports but for the occasional bobsleigh pusher.

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    Actually, Africa is something politicians in the white western world love to discuss, but seldom harbor any will to do any real good.

    The seemingly endless famine, slaughter of people within tribal boundaries, wars, petulance, disease, and genocide seem to continue unabated.

    Interesting that now, at this moment, France has chosen to enter the fray in Mali?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Having worked in several African countries over the years, I decided I like the place
    but not as much as asia or europe?

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    very different cats

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Toby451
    ok, so how do you account for the fact that when the whites ruled SA and Rhodesia, the place was up and running, but now they've turned to shit?
    What has changed exactly? It's still the majority suffering at the hands of the minority if you ask me: meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
    At least under the old boss the land was productive.

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    Remember where all of your civilisational roots lay.

    Seemingly, no one does.

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    Yes, but for the old boss. I think you'd struggle to find a black South African that would agree they were better off under Apartheid than they are now. Zimbabweans might be a different story but then that's probably more because the economy is so fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog View Post
    Last week, while on a cruise. I read the book, 'Black Star Safari' by Paul Theroux.
    His conclusion is that Africa is a basket case, and the charities are running a huge racket of 'hunger porn', peddling upsetting images of starvation to make contributors feel guilty and donate, and then spending on imported 4-wheel drive cars to swan around in.
    Any decent school teacher is recruited by the charities as an aid distributor - emptying the schools of good black teachers.
    Theroux also points out that
    a) charity workers (as well as French soldiers) are the buyers for African child prostitution - which is proliferating to fulfill that demand.
    b) there is no sign that Africans subsequently volunteer to do free charitable work. They never pick up the ball.
    As for the Governments.
    "We will be approaching the international community to assist us in this regard," Mr Biti said.
    Theroux observes that the Government's just rely on foreign aid to provide the country's budget. They don't have to govern.
    'Black Star Safari'....I recommend it.
    Well I thought I'd take you up on your recommendation,
    but according to most reviews of the book, he's full of shit.
    It's not that Theroux is wrong to criticise the empire of aid. In some ways the situation is even worse than he says. Aid corrupts its recipients and its providers. Sometimes it actively contributes to conflict. The problem is that Theroux knows next to nothing about it. Aid is a failure, he says, because "the only people dishing up the food and doling out the money are foreigners. No Africans are involved". But the majority of employees of international aid agencies in Africa, at almost all levels, are Africans. In some African countries it is international aid agencies that provide the most consistent source of employment.

    This, it may be argued, is itself a problem, creating a comprador class dependent on foreign patronage. But the problem is not, as Theroux says, that Africans are not involved; it is, if anything, the opposite. How come he doesn't notice this? Because, despite his hissy fits about white people in white cars who won't give him lifts, he never actually visits an aid project or the office of an aid organisation.
    It is a pity, though, that Theroux has not read more carefully about some of the places he visits. Even when he is not talking about aid workers there are a great many inaccuracies.
    Sounds like a typical Teakdoor windbag
    Well read the book anyway, and see if you agree or not.

    Theroux did live and teach in Africa as a young man, so his analyses are frequently comparative - between that time and this.

    I wonder if the Reviewer has even read the book, as I recall the passage about not being given a lift by an aid worker, and to describe that text as a 'hissy fit', suggests he/she hasn't.

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    Your statement in the FP is racist, Koojo, even if you didn't intend it to be (I realize you don't care that it is). Add a word such as "elites" or "looters" after "black," for example.

    Here is an interesting way to look at what is happening in Zimbabwe:
    A Diamond Heist of Epic Proportions
    By Paula Froelich

    After years of trying to understand how Zimbabwe works, we finally have the answer: it's a diamond heist.
    And just like any good heist movie, there is a lot of misdirection. Just yesterday the government announced it was down to its last $217 -- or the price of a .25 carat diamond from one of their many mines.
    As the country's finance minister Tendai Biti was begging for foreign aid to help bail him out, there was something far more important happening across town. The ironically named Goodwill Masimirembwa, chairman of the state-owned Zimbabwe Mining Development Corporation, was unveiling a plan straight out of Dr. Evil's playbook: He wants to double -- double! -- diamond exports.
    How does a country capable of exporting a billion dollars worth of state-owned diamonds end up with $214 in the bank? They blame Uncle Sam for sanctions stopping the sale of the gems in much of the world, but everyone else should blame them.
    Our resilient gang may not be as fashionable as Hollywood's "Ocean's 11" (Sinatra's especially), but Zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe's crew of generals and ministers managed to sell eight million carats worth of diamonds last year, netting $684.5 million, while sending only $40 million of it to state coffers.


    Read more: Zimbabwe's Diamond Heist -- Robert Mugabe's Racket - Esquire Zimbabwe's Diamond Heist -- Robert Mugabe's Racket - Esquire
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