Thread: 1st time over a decade I have gone 24 hours without a cigarette

Originally Posted by Submaniac

Originally Posted by DrAndy

....the smokers out there will realise they are just dirty and selfish...

yeah...that's sort of what I mean about not understanding unless you've been an addict. I do admit that when I smoked I did stink, but I do have a more understanding and forgiving feeling towards smokers, present and past.

So, I am wrong about that?

smokers throwing their butts everwhere, thinking they are just small? even still lit - why do you think the verges of roads have the most fires?

smokers lighting up and spoiling others enjoyment of the environment? the stink of smoke polluting the fresh air, or even spoiling others enjoyment of their meals?

smokers making themselves sick so their families have to look after them?

yes, dirty and selfish

There are a few smokers who realise this and go out of their way to try not to make others suffer, but they are a minority, unfortunately

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Submaniac

Originally Posted by DrAndy

....the smokers out there will realise they are just dirty and selfish...

yeah...that's sort of what I mean about not understanding unless you've been an addict. I do admit that when I smoked I did stink, but I do have a more understanding and forgiving feeling towards smokers, present and past.

So, I am wrong about that?

smokers throwing their butts everwhere, thinking they are just small? even still lit - why do you think the verges of roads have the most fires?

smokers lighting up and spoiling others enjoyment of the environment? the stink of smoke polluting the fresh air, or even spoiling others enjoyment of their meals?

smokers making themselves sick so their families have to look after them?

yes dirty and selfish

There are a few smokers who realise this and go out of their way to try not to make others suffer, but they are a minority, unfortunately

"yes, dirty and selfish"

Is that right?

You and other anti-smoking wowsers don't even consider you own polluting habits.

You spew diesel smoke into the air everywhere you go and think it's cool, chuck your garbage and non-biodegradables all over the countryside or into land fills, flush all your crap into our lovely streams and rivers and think your shit don't smell!

Hypocritical aint it?

Then ya go on about the minute amount of tobacco smoke someone breaths into the air as if its gonna kill ya!!

Weird idea.

LIsten here, go suck on the end of your exhaust pipe for a minute and see if it don't kill ya.

It's no comparison at all to how much pollution that comes out of a cig, so stop yer wowsering bollix and get it into perspective.

The chief cause of pulmonary collapse is diesel smoke, not tobbacco smoke, anywhere.

You got no facts to back up yer contention that tobacco smoke, second hand or otherwise is a major pollutant of the atmosphere.

Your car does more damage to anyone tham any amount of cigarettes will.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

You got no facts to back up yer contention that tobacco smoke, second hand or otherwise is a major pollutant of the atmosphere.

He didn't say that. He only spoke about peoples' immediate breathing space. This is a prime example of how you misquote people.

No misquote at all.

I pointed out the fact that diesel smoke will most likely kill you faster than tobacco ever will.

Unburnt hydrocarbons in both tobacco smoke and rice straw burnoff smoke, or diesel fumes, combined with ozone under the action of UV light in the atmosphere, are the major cause of pulmonary collapse and lung cancer, the former being the leading cause of death in Chiangmai, even among non-smokers.

Sitting at a sidewalk cafe to drink a wholesome fruit juice is definitely an unhealthy pastime as the amount of diesel fumes you'd inhale from city traffic these days would certainly pollute your lungs far more than casual passive smoking of cigarette smoke. Exhaust fumes are densest within 50 metres of a busy road, penetrating homes and polluting the atmosphere we breath.

It's good to give up smoking, but it's even healthier to move away from traffic pollution too.