Not a bad idea, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
Elevated O2 levels help immensely, fights depression, increases positive thinking etc.
Also the bike ride or a walk gives you something to do instead of sitting around wondering if you want a cig or not, and so on.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
It's a bit like jumping off a roof but not as painful. :)
The few of us who're giving up in our neck of the woods refer to Carr's book and also thinking about lobelia as they've seen the change in me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmartWorked for me. Quit eight years ago using Carr's book. Since that time I've lent the book to a few friends that have successfully quit as well.:bananaman:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dillinger
I still keep it around, just in case I ever get tempted again. Not many books can change your life like this one.
Whichever method you use, it's gonna work for you if you choose it and decide to quit.
Just DO IT.
Sort of -it's like standing on the edge of a roof, thinking that stopping smoking is like stepping of the side. Then you do step off, and you find it is all an illusion; you step straight into a room that smell better, you feel better, food and wine taste better, everything is better, and you look back at how you felt standing on the edge of the roof and thinking "Why did I get so worked up by it? It's easy".
It sure aint as easy as you are making out pseudo. I watched this docu about this woman who was hooked on crack cocaine, heroin and fags. She quit them all but said the cigarettes were the hardest to get off.
You will have a spell soon where it will get tough, maybe after a few beers in the company of smokers or a bit of bad news somewhere down the line.
Like that video i put up, there will be many more tests of your steel.
Good luck and stay strong fellas.
you should ask "why was I standing on the edge of the roof"Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
Thank you kindly!Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTLobelia is available in garden centres in Thailand, some in Chiangmai near Tesco Lotus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
Have a look at some of the pics I posted about it and here's another Thai reference to its Thai name etc.
พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก - วิกิพีเดีย
th.wikipedia.org/wiki/พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก - แคช - ใกล้เคียง
ชื่อวิทยาศาสตร์: Lobelia chinensis Lour. ชื่อสามัญ: พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก; ชื่อพื้นเมืองอื่นๆ:
ลักษณะ: ใบ: ดอก: การดูแล: การขยายพันธุ์: ประโยชน์: ...
Good luck.
PS
Also in Japan:
Lobelia erinus 'Riviela Rose'Lobelia erinus is the species I've used along with lobelia inflata.
- 日本語: ロベリア
Your Japanese friends might be able to track oit down from the above.
Green sent! ;)
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Originally Posted by DrAndy
Good you said that, ex-smoker is the term.
ENT can never become a non smoker but he can remain an ex-smoker.
I think its important to always keep that in mind.
The psychological trigger situations can pop up and be felt quite strongly even after some years of not smoking.
This is certainly a great thread and I have been keeping tabs on all the experiences and worthwhile advice.
Whilst I have not given up I have cut down from my usual 2 packets a day to one and will continue to try and cut down by staying away from the bars and beer for a while.
That's the first move LT!
I was chain smoking when I was doing two packs a day. I remember laughing about it! Crazy.
Cutting down to one pack wasn't too difficult, dealt to that change in a week, then started rolling my own, which cut my smoking down to 10 cigs or so a day.
Cut that down to 5 -7 a day, then finally hung around 3-5 cigs a day before using my old pipe which I used to smoke as a habit for years. Then cut that down to three or four puffing sessions on the verandah a day, or a few tokes at the pub with my beers, all outdoors by then.
Making your home smoke free is an important step to cutting down. No ashtrays etc indoors.
Cutting down certainly makes it easier to quit, just don't delay the quitting day for too long.
DON'T set a deadline date for quitting, it really creates a lot of tension and failing to meet that can really give you low self esteem, lack of confidence and an increase in smoking as a result.
Good luck mate, all success to you! :)
I was out boozing all last night with 2 smokers tabbing away - felt no compunction at all to smoke (or pontificate to them). That video did not test anyone's - save it and watch it when you are have quit smoking yourself and you will see what I mean lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dillinger
Good on ya mate. Stick to it. :)
No amount of cigs burning, or folks smoking entices me any more, I feel nothing nor can I get judgemental over others smoking around me. I feel free, light, healthy and strong.
Not only that, I feel very optimistic about my life, planning my next adventure.....:bananaman: :sssh:
and there was I thinking you were an intelligent being!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
fuk me, two packs a day, how does it happen? that nicotine sure exerts a powerful influence
cutting back is good, understanding why you smoke would be better
stress from work? nicotine solves the problem
not
that's goodQuote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
we can all imagine you deeply inhaling their secondhand smoke!
go to smoke free bars so they have to go outside
Most bars in Thailand are now smoke free, as they are in the West.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
Smoking areas outside are a norm.
Second hand smoke is only an issue in the minds of petty minded wowsers and flagelists.
Smelling or breathing second-hand tobacco is of less danger to me than walking past camp-fires or breathing the exhaust of diesel and petrol exhaust fumes from passing vehicles, largely OWNED BY NON-SMOKERS!!
ENT is demonstrating that they CAN pop up at any time. And that he can rationalize _anything_.......having had 50 years of practice rationalizing smoking.Quote:
Originally Posted by melvin
Secondhand smoke is a huge health issue.
Yeh, like diesel is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latindancer
Think about it dumbo, or are you still in denial of the fact?
Think about WHAT ? Whether diesel is bad for you ? And in denial of WHAT fact ?
You've been drinking again, haven't you ?
You're in greater danger of dying a premature death from pulmonary diseases by living in a diesel fume filled city environment than by breathing in second hand tobacco smoke.
Sit outdoors in any traffic laden city area for an hour then go and have a cough and spit and see what you have in your lungs.
But you'd likely deny that anything pollutes your lungs.
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Originally Posted by DrAndyQuote:
Originally Posted by ENTWhat a dumb and negative thing to say, tosspot.Quote:
Originally Posted by melvin
You're obviously a sanctimonious wowser who hasn't a clue about what you're on about.
Either make some positive suggestions to help or get lost.
Red sent.
what was dumb or negative?
he was merely speaking the truth; why don't you like it?
Nothing worse when youve just quit and gearing yourself up mentally to abstain from cigarettes, than some fukker telling you they gave up for 10 years and the cravings never went away.
maybe, but that doesn't make it not true
be prepared, as they say
How's submaniac doing?
haven't heard from him in a while? You still off them sub?
you will probably find those that do succumb to the temptation keep schtum.
a bit like a gambler who only tells you when he's winning
I am an intelligent being and do enjoy a smoke Doc. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
Albert Einstein smoking pipe - YouTube
When did you give up smoking?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy