Thread: 1st time over a decade I have gone 24 hours without a cigarette

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I can see Pseudo is turning into the worst kind of afflicted smoker, the reformed bore. Note how he refers to himself as Ex-Smoker not Non smoker.

well, that is the most correct term

an ex-smoker will always have the mental addiction lurking, a non-smoker will not

Originally Posted by ENT

I haven't taken any lobelia today, but If the negative mood arises again, I'll either increase or decrease my lobelia dose slightly, depending how I feel, or just go for a walk, see how it goes.

just go for a walk or a bike ride

Not a bad idea, actually.

Elevated O2 levels help immensely, fights depression, increases positive thinking etc.
Also the bike ride or a walk gives you something to do instead of sitting around wondering if you want a cig or not, and so on.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

There really is nothing negative at all about not smoking, and it's not even that hard to stop.

I agree.

It's a bit like jumping off a roof but not as painful.

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I'm gonna give up soon, ive been reading this book

http://kat.ph/alan-carrs-easy-way-to...-t4151582.html

It tells you not to stop puffing until you finish the book. I'm reading a sentence a day

Worked for me. Quit eight years ago using Carr's book. Since that time I've lent the book to a few friends that have successfully quit as well.

I still keep it around, just in case I ever get tempted again. Not many books can change your life like this one.

The few of us who're giving up in our neck of the woods refer to Carr's book and also thinking about lobelia as they've seen the change in me.

Whichever method you use, it's gonna work for you if you choose it and decide to quit.

Just DO IT.

Sort of -it's like standing on the edge of a roof, thinking that stopping smoking is like stepping of the side. Then you do step off, and you find it is all an illusion; you step straight into a room that smell better, you feel better, food and wine taste better, everything is better, and you look back at how you felt standing on the edge of the roof and thinking "Why did I get so worked up by it? It's easy".

It sure aint as easy as you are making out pseudo. I watched this docu about this woman who was hooked on crack cocaine, heroin and fags. She quit them all but said the cigarettes were the hardest to get off.

You will have a spell soon where it will get tough, maybe after a few beers in the company of smokers or a bit of bad news somewhere down the line.

Like that video i put up, there will be many more tests of your steel.

Good luck and stay strong fellas.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

and you look back at how you felt standing on the edge of the roof and thinking "Why did I get so worked up by it? It's easy".

you should ask "why was I standing on the edge of the roof"

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Great thread! - I just started again after quiting for 3 months. So is lobelia easy to get in Thailand ? Can't seem to find anywhere to get it in Japan ..

Lobelia is available in garden centres in Thailand, some in Chiangmai near Tesco Lotus.

Have a look at some of the pics I posted about it and here's another Thai reference to its Thai name etc.

พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก - วิกิพีเดีย

th.wikipedia.org/wiki/พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก - แคช - ใกล้เคียง
ชื่อวิทยาศาสตร์: Lobelia chinensis Lour. ชื่อสามัญ: พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก; ชื่อพื้นเมืองอื่นๆ:
ลักษณะ: ใบ: ดอก: การดูแล: การขยายพันธุ์: ประโยชน์: ...

Good luck.

PS

Also in Japan:

Lobelia erinus 'Riviela Rose'

• 日本語: ロベリア

Lobelia erinus is the species I've used along with lobelia inflata.

Your Japanese friends might be able to track oit down from the above.

Thank you kindly!

Green sent!

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I can see Pseudo is turning into the worst kind of afflicted smoker, the reformed bore. Note how he refers to himself as Ex-Smoker not Non smoker.

well, that is the most correct term

an ex-smoker will always have the mental addiction lurking, a non-smoker will not

Originally Posted by ENT

I haven't taken any lobelia today, but If the negative mood arises again, I'll either increase or decrease my lobelia dose slightly, depending how I feel, or just go for a walk, see how it goes.

just go for a walk or a bike ride

Good you said that, ex-smoker is the term.

ENT can never become a non smoker but he can remain an ex-smoker.

I think its important to always keep that in mind.
The psychological trigger situations can pop up and be felt quite strongly even after some years of not smoking.

This is certainly a great thread and I have been keeping tabs on all the experiences and worthwhile advice.

Whilst I have not given up I have cut down from my usual 2 packets a day to one and will continue to try and cut down by staying away from the bars and beer for a while.

Originally Posted by Dillinger

It sure aint as easy as you are making out pseudo. I watched this docu about this woman who was hooked on crack cocaine, heroin and fags. She quit them all but said the cigarettes were the hardest to get off.

You will have a spell soon where it will get tough, maybe after a few beers in the company of smokers or a bit of bad news somewhere down the line.

Like that video i put up, there will be many more tests of your steel.

Good luck and stay strong fellas.

I was out boozing all last night with 2 smokers tabbing away - felt no compunction at all to smoke (or pontificate to them). That video did not test anyone's - save it and watch it when you are have quit smoking yourself and you will see what I mean lol

Good on ya mate. Stick to it.

No amount of cigs burning, or folks smoking entices me any more, I feel nothing nor can I get judgemental over others smoking around me. I feel free, light, healthy and strong.

Not only that, I feel very optimistic about my life, planning my next adventure.....

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Whilst I have not given up I have cut down from my usual 2 packets a day to one and will continue to try and cut down by staying away from the bars and beer for a while.

and there was I thinking you were an intelligent being!!

fuk me, two packs a day, how does it happen? that nicotine sure exerts a powerful influence

cutting back is good, understanding why you smoke would be better

stress from work? nicotine solves the problem

not

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I was out boozing all last night with 2 smokers tabbing away - felt no compunction at all to smoke

that's good

we can all imagine you deeply inhaling their secondhand smoke!

go to smoke free bars so they have to go outside

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I was out boozing all last night with 2 smokers tabbing away - felt no compunction at all to smoke

that's good

we can all imagine you deeply inhaling their secondhand smoke!

go to smoke free bars so they have to go outside

Most bars in Thailand are now smoke free, as they are in the West.

Smoking areas outside are a norm.

Second hand smoke is only an issue in the minds of petty minded wowsers and flagelists.

Smelling or breathing second-hand tobacco is of less danger to me than walking past camp-fires or breathing the exhaust of diesel and petrol exhaust fumes from passing vehicles, largely OWNED BY NON-SMOKERS!!

Originally Posted by melvin

The psychological trigger situations can pop up and be felt quite strongly even after some years of not smoking.

ENT is demonstrating that they CAN pop up at any time. And that he can rationalize _anything_.......having had 50 years of practice rationalizing smoking.

Secondhand smoke is a huge health issue.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Secondhand smoke is a huge health issue.

Yeh, like diesel is.

Think about it dumbo, or are you still in denial of the fact?

Think about WHAT ? Whether diesel is bad for you ? And in denial of WHAT fact ?

You've been drinking again, haven't you ?

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by melvin

ENT can never become a non smoker but he can remain an ex-smoker.

I think its important to always keep that in mind.
The psychological trigger situations can pop up and be felt quite strongly even after some years of not smoking.

What a dumb and negative thing to say, tosspot.

You're obviously a sanctimonious wowser who hasn't a clue about what you're on about.

Either make some positive suggestions to help or get lost.

Red sent.

what was dumb or negative?

he was merely speaking the truth; why don't you like it?

Nothing worse when youve just quit and gearing yourself up mentally to abstain from cigarettes, than some fukker telling you they gave up for 10 years and the cravings never went away.

maybe, but that doesn't make it not true

be prepared, as they say

How's submaniac doing?
haven't heard from him in a while? You still off them sub?

you will probably find those that do succumb to the temptation keep schtum.
a bit like a gambler who only tells you when he's winning

Originally Posted by DrAndy

and there was I thinking you were an intelligent being!!

I am an intelligent being and do enjoy a smoke Doc.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

maybe, but that doesn't make it not true

be prepared, as they say

When did you give up smoking?