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    [quote=Bettyboo;2781140]I see tht England are the greatest team in the world again... /quote]

    Not until you have a Don Betty.

    KP was the closest you have had for a while, but he was too flamboyant for the ECB


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    KP was the closest you have had for a while, but he was too flamboyant for the ECB
    He is a South African after all. Tony Greig was flamboyant also.

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    ^ & ^^ KP was an excellent player, but the whole team rather lost their way. Time to rebuild now; the Convicts did that really well, so hope we can too.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    these d/l decided games are always a bit of a letdown aren't they.
    Yeah, it's a crap ending to any game.

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    Wonderful performance from England's Chris Jordan smashing 38 off 13 balls which included 5 fours and 2 sixes.
    The lad has potential. Has done well in a poor team since he was selected. A bit wild at times, so he needs to tighten that up a bit; maybe he has...
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Never a good headline:

    England collapse to emphatic defeat
    England were skittled for 99 as Sri Lanka levelled the five-match one-day international series at 1-1 with a 157-run win at Chester-le-Street.
    BBC Sport - England v Sri Lanka: Tourists level ODI series with crushing victory

    Oh dear... We are shite again...

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    The history of cricket in England is one of many cultures | The Spin | Sport | theguardian.com

    The History Of Cricket In England Is One Of Many Cultures

    Cricket has often been appropriated by those who see the sport as being symbolic of ‘their England’, and who would invest it with exemplary qualities that it does not possess



    'The 'Englishness' in English cricket is found, in part, in the acceptance, inclusion, and encouragement of immigrant players who have enriched the team.'

    Of course Nigel Farage spent Sunday afternoon at the cricket, whiling away the final few hours before the election results came in by watching Kent play Worcester at – where else? – Royal Tunbridge Wells. “Cricket,” wrote Neville Cardus, “is in the blood of every Kentish boy.” Farage was born in Downe, and still lives nearby, among what Cardus called the “gracious landscape” of “grass so fresh and green and old nodding trees”. In 1932 CP Snow suggested that “since cricket became brighter a man of taste can only go to an empty ground, and regret the past”. It sometimes seems that people go to the Nevill ground to do exactly that, to enjoy the atmosphere of “reassuring permanence and quiet prosperity” through their rhododendron-tinted spectacles. Which might be why the suffragettes once chose to burn the pavilion down to the ground.

    “Lunch was great, cricket was nice,” was Farage’s chipper verdict. “It was a very English scene.” No doubt, what with much of the day’s play being taken up by the contest between Worcestershire’s Pakistani spinner Saeed Ajmal and Kent’s Australian-born West Indian batsman Brendan Nash. But let’s not sweat the small details. Farage was, they say, a dab hand at Dulwich College, and still follows the game. “Real politicians love cricket”, was the headline on a piece he once wrote, a barb aimed at Ed Miliband after the Labour leader turned down an invitation to appear on Test Match Special. That accolade, Farage said, should be “the pinnacle of any English politician’s life”. He fulfilled his ambition back in 2011 and has since, presumably, set his sights a little higher.

    Farage, like John Major and Norman Tebbit before him, seems to have bound up his sentimental recollections of his own schoolboy cricket into his odd ideas about English identity, which are best accompanied, like the old Hovis adverts, by Dvorak’s Symphony No 9. Major, who has written a history of the sport, once waxed on about Britain as “the country of long shadows on cricket grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers and pool fillers”. Tebbit, of course, dreamt up the infamous cricket test. Cricket has often been appropriated by those who see the sport as being symbolic of their England, and who would invest it with exemplary qualities that it does not possess.

    It took Mike Marqusee, an American, to cut through this claptrap. “The Englishness is in the lie, in the cult of the honest yeoman and the village green, in the denial of cricket’s origins in commerce, politics, patronage and an urban society,” Marqusee wrote in his book Anyone But England. “There have always been many cricket cultures, and those who try and narrow it down to one, who claim to be the defenders of some inner purity, are enemies of the game.”

    The history of cricket in England is, as Marqusee says, one of many cultures. Its Englishness is found, in part, in the acceptance, inclusion, and encouragement of immigrant players who have enriched the team. From the “lovely magic”, as Cardus called it, of Ranjitsinhji’s leg-glance, to Graeme Hick’s sumptuous cover drive, from the Nawab of Pataudi’s hundred on his debut at the SCG in 1932, to Ben Stokes’ century at the Waca 86 years later. Of the 661 men who have played Test cricket for England, 90 were born outside the boundaries of the country. Each has their own story. Some were born to expat parents, some had English relatives, some qualified through residency, some came to study, some came to play. All were accepted.

    In its 136-year history the English national team has, in fact, included men from 24 nations and states, from Australia through to Zimbabwe, through Barbados, Denmark, Dominica, Germany, Guyana, Hong Kong, Ireland, India, Italy, Jamaica, Kenya, New Zealand, Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Peru, South Africa, Scotland, St Kitts, St Vincent, Trinidad, and Wales. They have come from all corners, from Cape Town to Copenhagen, Lima to Luanshya, Simla to Sydney. You can put together entire XIs of English Test players from each of Africa, India, the West Indies, Australia and New Zealand, Wales and Scotland.

    Alastair Cook recently got himself into a tangle while talking about how he wanted to accentuate “the Englishness” of the national team. It was a strange remark, and one that he struggled to explain. He stumbled out something about it being to do with “the legacy you want to leave behind of the culture we want to create”.

    Forgive him his confusion. “Englishness” in cricket is a difficult thing to pin down. But it isn’t only found in Tunbridge Wells, any more than it is on the playing fields of the public schools. If you’re in Bristol, you’ll find a little bit of “Englishness” at the Easton Cowboys cricket club. They have been running a campaign to have one of their players, a 19-year-old Pakistani named Ahad Rizvi, released from the detention centre where he has been held for the last 50 days.

    Rizvi’s family moved to the city in 2009, after his father received death threats from his militant groups connected to the Taliban. Ahad’s own asylum application has been held up, and he is being threatened with deportation. The team brought the case to the attention of their MP, and helped the family find lawyers to fight their case. Rizvi has just been released, and is now back in the nets. “The Easton Cowboys has a fine history of helping people whose rights are threatened across the globe,” the club member Rob Tinkler told the Western Daily Press. “We are doing everything in our power to help.” That, it seems to The Spin, is a “legacy you want to leave behind”, a “culture we want to create”.

    If you’re in Bolton this weekend, head to the Deane and Derby Cricket Club, where the city’s first-ever interfaith match is being jointly organised by the Bolton Council of Mosques, the Bolton Christian Community, and the Bolton Hindu Forum. The game will be 12 overs a side. There will be henna painting, a barbecue, and a bouncy castle. The lunch will be “great”, the cricket will be “nice”, and that, too, will be “a very English scene”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    The History Of Cricket In England Is One Of Many Cultures
    Good article, but I would argue that cricket is an absolutely English game, that the Indians have adapted to very well, unlike golf...which is a Scots game

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    Yay! The IPL is over! I never realized it went on for sooooo long!! Much longer than World Cup tournaments ?? - I watched a few match highlights on YouTube. Yusuf Pathan smashed 50 off 15 balls. Somebody else 87 from 20. Gotta feel for the bowlers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    Yay! The IPL is over!
    What a blot on the landscape it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    Gotta feel for the bowlers..
    More so for the spectators.

    What an utter waste of time.

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    England busy scrambling to put a new test side together:
    Possible England squad

    • Alastair Cook, Sam Robson, Joe Root, Ian Bell, Gary Ballance, Moeen Ali, Matt Prior/Jos Buttler, Ben Stokes, Stuart Broad, Chris Jordan, James Anderson, Samit Patel, Liam Plunkett

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    Cricket Australia imports Indian soil to conquer spin demons


    This'll do: Cricket Australia is importing Indian soil in a bid to improve Australia's spin prospects. Photo: REUTERS

    If Australia is to stay at No.1, it will have to get better at playing spin, and Cricket Australia is going to great lengths to make that happen.
    It has an elaborate plan to import soil from India and deposit it in the middle of a Brisbane greyhound track to recreate a little piece of the subcontinent in the suburbs.
    "Our toughest challenge the last few years has been having success away from home," said captain Michael Clarke, after picking up a bat at the new National Cricket Centre in Brisbane for the first time since he led Australia to a famous overseas victory over South Africa in March.
    But the pitches in South Africa are similar to Australian ones and no one has forgotten the horror of last year's Test tour of India - the scene of a 4-0 thrashing and the ''homework'' scandal.
    The next Test assignment is against Pakistan in the United Arab Emirates in October, when off-spinner Saeed Ajmal and friends will doubtless set out to expose old frailties.
    "We didn’t play well in India,'' Clarke said. "I don’t know, but I am guessing the wickets in Dubai will be similar. I am guessing they will prepare wickets that spin and they will have two or three spinners in those teams.
    "We have to find a way to get better. That is one of our great challenges as a Test team."
    Team performance manager Pat Howard said CA was aiming to have subcontinent-style outdoor pitches near the NCC - at the adjacent dog track and Allan Border Field - installed by the end of the summer using Indian soil.
    There is already a special surface designed to take spin in the state-of-the-art indoor nets at the NCC, where Phil Hughes practised his sweep shots on Wednesday.
    But the outdoor pitches at Allan Border Field are too bouncy to prepare players for the conditions they encounter on the subcontinent, prompting CA to make a reconnaissance mission to Dubai 18 months ago.
    Chairman of selectors Rod Marsh introduced different pitches at the Dubai-based ICC academy when he was head coach there several years ago.
    "A third of all our matches are in the subcontinent, so you've got to be able to deal with it," said Howard.
    "While we do practise here against spin ... we know it's not as real as being there. We're never going to make it exactly the same, but we're going to try to get as close as we can.
    "Our domestic cricket does a wonderful job of preparing you to play in Australia, but the whole reason we play Australia A tours or send guys to the MRF [academy in India] or Sri Lanka, or teams come here, is to be able to deal with the global conditions you have to deal with. One of the great challenges is winning away.
    "The subcontinent [pitch] idea has been around for a long time and we’re very much trying to make this a place where in the middle of winter guys can get themselves ready and prepared.
    "Some players in our system are fantastic at using their feet and playing against spin, but our collective experience has got to get better."
    Contracted players are attending a punishing fitness camp at the NCC, with a limited-overs tour of Zimbabwe to come before the Pakistan series, followed by a hectic summer that culminates with the World Cup in Australia and New Zealand.
    An Australia A series will include games at Marrara Stadium in Darwin, which is lower and slower to prepare players for the UAE tour.


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    Fuck.... how does that work with your strict quarantine laws?

    My mate had his golf clubs taken and sterilised when he brought them in from Thailand..... he asked them what would happen when he took a shit later and they didn;t crack a smile.....

    We are currently sterilising pipe racks that we are sending to Australia..... Christ some of them weigh over 1000 tonnes ffs.....

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    ^ good point. Will they put the soil through a strainer to find any alien grubs?

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    probably nuke it in an industrial microwave.

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    BCCI threatened to form parallel world cricket body

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    Sanjay Patel: "We told them that if India is not getting its proper due and importance then India might be forced to form a second ICC of its own." © BCCI

    The BCCI had threatened to form a parallel world cricket body before the England and Australia boards agreed to the controversial restructuring of the ICC and decided to give a lion's share of its revenue to the India board, according to the BCCI secretary Sanjay Patel.

    "We got criticised by many in the media and lot of them did not agree but we told them that if India is not getting its proper due and importance then India might be forced to form a second ICC of its own," Patel said at the Sports Journalists Federation of India's annual convention in Hyderabad.

    "England and Australia agreed and after that it was decided and from June 27th onwards the new structure will come into place. I would like to state that all 10 Full Members have signed the resolution."

    There was also no stopping BCCI president-in-exile N Srinivasan from taking over as the chairman of the ICC later this month in Melbourne as the Indian Supreme Court has not prevented him from doing so, Patel said.

    "By the month end, India will take a leading role in the ICC. Mr Srinivasan is going. There is no Supreme Court bar on him. Both of us are going to Melbourne. In the last four months we have settled (the issue) with all the Full Members of the ICC and convinced them about the new structure and the new financial model of the ICC which would be followed in the coming years.

    "India would play a leading role in the ICC and the reasons are well known. India is more or less responsible for 68 to 72 percent of the ICC's gross revenue but unfortunately so far we were getting three to four percent of it."
    Patel said that a private agency study had confirmed India's substantial contribution to the ICC.

    "Srinivasan asked a private agency to study the model and find out who is responsible for what amount and we found that India is responsible for 72 percent and ICC worked out that it was 68 percent. We had a meeting with the ICC officials in Dubai and we informed that 68 to 72 percent is not an issue but it was clear that the majority of the income is coming from India, so why should India take only three to four percent?"

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    Gutless wimps, we shoulda let the Indians fuck off. Ruining the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Gutless wimps, we shoulda let the Indians fuck off. Ruining the game.
    If they did that world cricket would have collapsed.
    India would have extended the IPL into a baseball like season and we'd all just be feeders for that..

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    ^ Hate to think what would have happened. We tell them to fuck off and don't play tests against them - if it was just India, hmmmm, ...but if WI, PAK, SL, etc. decide to go with India's 'new ICC' we might have ended up playing an ashes series every 3 months! - the BB in the BBCI stands for Big Bullie$

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Buttler must be a bit daft. He was given 2 warnings, and warned in the previous match but still kept leaving his crease. Yep - a rightful mankad.

    Vaughan has been having a good whinge about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles View Post
    the BB in the BBCI stands for Big Bullie$
    That would have been funny if they were called the BBCI.....

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    ^ doh! How about bullying cash cows?...

    I'll get my coat....

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    Cricketer Gary 'Gus' Gilmour dead, aged 62

    Australian swing-bowling allrounder Gary Gilmour has died, aged 62.
    Gilmour died on Tuesday at Sydney's Royal Prince Alfred Hospital.
    The left-armer played 15 Tests and was renowned for snaring figures of 6-14 against England in the 1975 World Cup semi-final.
    In 2002, Wisden ranked it cricket's best one-day international bowling performance.
    The then 23-year-old also claimed 5-48 in the final of the inaugural World Cup, which Australia lost to the West Indies.
    'Gus' Gilmour underwent a liver transplant in 2005, when his former captain Ian Chappell led a band of former teammates in raising money for the procedure

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    “Gilmour’s wielding willow like an axe”.

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    ^ same tune popped into my head as i was reading it.

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