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**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 26-11-2013, 01:56 PM

Makes sense to rest Johnson to keep the fear factor in tact for Perth.

Not sure exactly who is fit, but i expect Harris and siddle will play.

**Bettyboo** · 26-11-2013, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Makes sense to rest Johnson to keep the fear factor in tact for Perth.

You wanna be 2-0 going into Perth or 1-1???

If you're 2-0 going into Perth and Johnson is a bit tired, who cares - you're virtually at the finishing line!

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 26-11-2013, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Funny how the poms aren't saying much about this. Guess they know they are guilty of the same kind of thing.

Don't think we're going to lower ourselves to your level, do you?

Ha! That's funny coming from an ungracious one trick pony like you Harry !

You forgot to add the word convict and call us shit in that post. Must be a bit rattled like your team is.

Australia favorites to win the series now...

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 26-11-2013, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Makes sense to rest Johnson to keep the fear factor in tact for Perth.

You wanna be 2-0 going into Perth or 1-1???

If you're 2-0 going into Perth and Johnson is a bit tired, who cares - you're virtually at the finishing line!

Nah. Keep him for Perth where your team will be wearing nappies when they go to the crease.

We have other very good bowlers better suited to Perth who you haven't faced yet anyway .

**kingwilly** · 26-11-2013, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Australia favorites to win the series now...

bookies reflect that.

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 26-11-2013, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Necron99

^ Knowing all about his situation were the selectors clinically homesick when they sent him on tour?

You reckon they could have spent less time on their 90 page nutrition report and a little more on their mental health report...

I hope Trott recovers soon. He is a good cricketer and he should not give up cricket to beat his demons. That would be a mistake.

My advice is for him to go home for as long as he needs to get well. South Africa is nice and warm this time of year and he has family there.

**cyrille** · 26-11-2013, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

We have other very good bowlers better suited to Perth who you haven't faced yet anyway .

I assume you mean Adelaide.

Any names and info about where all these genius bowlers were hiding the last time at Adelaide when we thrashed you by an innings?

Maybe none of your bowlers are 'suited' to Adelaide when England are in town?

Particularly when KP is batting.

**cyrille** · 26-11-2013, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

My advice is for him to go home for as long as he needs to get well. South Africa is nice and warm this time of year and he has family there.

Trott's home and family are in Birmingham, which is where he's gone.

Is Kawaja around still, btw? Or back in Pakistan with his family?

**cyrille** · 26-11-2013, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

Australia favorites to win the series now...

Originally Posted by kingwilly

bookies reflect that.

The bookies reflect it, eh?

You mean ... err ... those guys who decide who the favourites are?

**Bobcock** · 26-11-2013, 03:08 PM

I lovethe new bold Wally Dorian, he's gained a whole new level of confidence based on the win.

I wonder if his work and home life and improved proportionately, though hopefully not to the same level of tardiness mine have slipped by.....

**Bobcock** · 26-11-2013, 03:19 PM

England will lose this series of that I have no doubt.

I was worried enough before it but the enormity of that defeat and the loss of Trott is going to be too much for this team to handle.

This is not some silly reaction to the first test, but a realistic view that I have held for some time. I see serious problems at this time in 5 or 6 positions. Adelaide is crucial, repair the damage or the 5-0 prediction some made on here could well come true.

**cyrille** · 26-11-2013, 03:22 PM

I think we'll win in Adelaide. This England team has a handy history of bouncing back, and MJ has a history of wayward radar.

We took them to the cleaners there last time out and the key personnnel hasn't changed that much.

Then the aussies will be favourites to win in Perth (with the bookies

) and after that - anybody's guess.

**Bettyboo** · 26-11-2013, 03:42 PM

We WILL win the next test.

1-1 going into Perth.

**Bobcock** · 26-11-2013, 03:47 PM

I admire your enthusiasm.... and I really hope you are right......

They have bounced back time and time again, but there is always a last time and I think this team has had it.

Even Cook looks stale and he is too young to look stale.

There is one man to bring us back and I'm relying on him..... KP

**Bettyboo** · 26-11-2013, 03:50 PM

Cook, Bell, KP (the two youngsters), the new opener, the tail - these are all strong batting forces; lots of runs there. Hard to imagine that they'd all fail to fire for 2 innings again. But...

We have experience, we have some decent batsman, we have won from this position before, we have good memories of this pitch. The Aussies are confident and going well, but they are still only an average side, nothing to fear. If we lose this next match...

**Bobcock** · 26-11-2013, 03:54 PM

I agree Australia are not suddenly their the Australia of before but this England side has me worried....

**cyrille** · 26-11-2013, 03:59 PM

The aussie batting will crumble in adelaide imo and things will look very different. OK warner is a decent switch for katich, but who for hussey? They're weaker now in batting than they were when we trounced them by an innings and 70 two years ago, and their bowling on a slower strip is pretty much the same.

**Bobcock** · 26-11-2013, 04:24 PM

You making me feel better already......

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 26-11-2013, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

We have other very good bowlers better suited to Perth who you haven't faced yet anyway .

I assume you mean Adelaide.

Any names and info about where all these genius bowlers were hiding the last time at Adelaide when we thrashed you by an innings?

Maybe none of your bowlers are 'suited' to Adelaide when England are in town?

Particularly when KP is batting.

Yes. Sorry. I meant Adelaide. It's been a long day....

No names we have been hiding. Hilfenhaus has got his mojo back, and has been mentioned as a candidate.

the last time at Adelaide

Means nothing.

We were at our lowest point, and you guys were at your peak.

Pattinson and a few of our other quicks have all matured as bowlers since then. One thing we are not short on is bowlers, though keeping them fit has been a problem. It's our batting that has let us down time and time again, though it is not looking as bad now. But even more importantly, we are playing as a team again.

The England team on the other hand seem to be falling apart.

As for KP, he is out of form, and our bowlers seem to have worked him out. Though I do expect he will step up at some stage during the series as he is an excellent player.

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 26-11-2013, 04:40 PM

The only question I have is: why now, Andy? Didn't hear anyone calling for a ceasefire when we were getting pumbled over the past few years.

Ashes sledging: England coach Andy Flower considers peace talks

Published: November 26, 2013 - 11:32AM

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SYDNEY: England coach Andy Flower says he'll consider meeting with Australian counterpart Darren Lehmann in a bid to set some sledging ground rules ahead of the second Test in Adelaide.

Flower said the right balance needed to be found with on-field banter after details emerged of the vicious on-field exchange involving England's James Anderson and Australia's George Bailey and Michael Clarke.

It's been alleged No.11 batsman Anderson escalated that situation by threatening to punch Bailey in the face, prompting Clarke to respond with his, "get ready for a broken f...ing arm" comment which was picked up by a stump microphone and broadcast, ultimately costing the Australian skipper 20 per cent of his match fee.

Flower described David Warner as "disrespectful" and "ignorant" but said it would be inaccurate to links remarks made by the Australian batsman to the media about out-of-form Jonathan Trott's dismissals with the England batsman's return to England with a stress-related illness.

However Flower doesn't want Trott's sensitive departure to become a topic of conversation on the pitch in Adelaide and will consider speaking with Lehmann.

"Now you have brought it up (talking to Lehmann) I'll have a think about it," Flower told the British press on Monday.

"I think both sides must concentrate on playing the game of cricket on the pitch. In a competitive way but finding the right balance.

"I don't think (the Trott issue) should be raised on the pitch. We're there to play cricket.

"A balance has got to be found on the pitch between competitiveness and not overstepping the line."

Former England player and respected commentator David Lloyd has said some of the first Test sledging he heard over a stump microphone, which didn't go to air, "went too far".

Flower said both sides had as responsibility to behave appropriately and he didn't wish to comment on the Clarke sledge to Anderson.

"That (Clarke sledge) situation has been dealt with by the ICC so I don't really need to go into it.

"We all have a responsibility both sides and the leaders involved to find the right balance and the way we play the game on the field.

"We're all adults out there."

Flower said he became aware of Trott's condition the very first time they met as player and coach in 2009.

Despite the fact Trott had headed home just one Test into the five Test series, Flower defended England's decision to pick him in the first place.

"He has handled it really well over the years and he has handled it well on the tour so far," Flower said.

"Just as if someone had a hamstring issue leading into the first Test it is our job to assess the likelihood of him being able to last the Test or that hamstring not hampering his performance.

"In the same way with Trotty we believed that he would handle as he always has handled it, very successfully, and that was the decision we made."

Asked should Warner be forced to apologise or be punished for his press conference comment where he described England's "scared eyes" and Trott's dismissal as "weak", Flower said: "We set our own standards and the Australians must set theirs."

AAP

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/...126-2y6x9.html

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 26-11-2013, 04:44 PM

http://www.cricket.com.au/news-list/...lking-to-media

**Bobcock** · 26-11-2013, 04:53 PM

More on the non story.....

As for they have worked Pietersen out.... based on one game..... how funny.

Next you'll say Clarke isn't Stuart's bunny based on one innings.....

**Necron99** · 26-11-2013, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

http://www.cricket.com.au/news-list/...lking-to-media

Playing right into it

**harrybarracuda** · 26-11-2013, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

My advice is for him to go home for as long as he needs to get well. South Africa is nice and warm this time of year and he has family there.

Trott's home and family are in Birmingham, which is where he's gone.

Is Kawaja around still, btw? Or back in Pakistan with his family?

He didn't say "his family are there", he said he "has family there", which is true.

Probably a good place to get away from the red top doorsteppers as well.

**harrybarracuda** · 26-11-2013, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles

http://www.cricket.com.au/news-list/...lking-to-media

They haven't banned proper journalists though.

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