Thread: The Premier League 2024/2025

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Poor old Hal has to keep looking at the History Channel.

It's really simple, H.

My team last won a trophy in May as well as another the previous year.

That's 2 pots in less than 2 years.

Your pile of shit last won a trophy, what, nearly 5 years ago?

That's half a decade since you last won owt while we've won 2 in the last 2 seasons.

You still wanna talk ancient?

Originally Posted by 39TG

I support Everton when they are losing. I haven't decided if I should support them when they are winning.

Don't worry - you have plenty of time.

^ The voice of experience

So either Ange has lost the tiny totts dressing room or the rest of his squad think Werner is a useless sack of shite as well.

Ange Postecoglou: Tottenham manager not concerned about '''bruised egos''' after Timo Werner criticism | Football News | Sky Sports

Roy Keane and Ricky Gervais

Roy Keane: 1.42: you had one job to do.





MANCHESTER UNITED RUN THE SHOW

Down to 10, The fool are lucky to pull one back, big final 1/4 for them.

Dear Santa,

Please can Martin Odegaard have some shooting boots for Christmas?

Meh.

Christmas has come early, lets hope Chels can hold their nerve tomorrow and get it done.

Great entertainment at the custard bowl yesterday.

At full-time, everywhere you looked there was utter, unruly chaos. A mix of anger and apathy in the stands at another damaging defeat and fury on the pitch. Rayan Aït-Nouri had to be manhandled by Craig Dawson, an unused substitute, down the tunnel, where he was handed a second yellow card, six days after Mario Lemina was stripped of the captaincy for overheating at West Ham. Matheus Cunha, surely Wolves’ saviour if they somehow get out of this mess, was equally petulant, snatching the glasses off a member of Ipswich’s security staff during a confrontation.

Wolves anger boils over as late Ipswich winner leaves Gary O’Neil on brink | Premier League | The Guardian

Wolves in sheeps wellies

Well that should pump up the budget for the Staff Xmas party anyway.

O'Neil getting Christmas off and a handy bonus.

Pickford was decent at set pieces yesterday.

Originally Posted by Joe 90

Pickford was decent

not a toffee but up to Martinez standard , some great saves should be first choice for World Cup sparing injury.

Some Xmas cheer for despondent City, Liverpool and Gooners fans

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Giz a gander in that X folder then.

A pair o' smelly undies says Dave-O's a right ol' pervooo.

Russel Martin given the tin tack.

Surprised he lasted this long.

Hal is what we used to commonly refer to as an "output only device".

Does sacking a manager help you avoid relegation?


Two of the clubs in the Premier League decided to roll the dice on Sunday by sacking their managers. Southampton, nine points adrift and bottom, axed Russell Martin - the manager who got them promoted last season. Wolves, five points off safety, sacked Gary O'Neil after a season and a half in charge.

But does sacking a manager help to bring about survival when a team are in the relegation zone?
Not counting this season, there have been 91 times when a team have parted company with their manager while in the drop zone - and on 36 of those occasions they avoided relegation.

That is a success rate of 40%, so we know the difficult decision can work.

Of those 36 cases, five of the teams were exactly five points adrift when the manager left, like Wolves. Sam Allardyce kept up two of those five teams - Blackburn in 2008-09 and Sunderland in 2015-16. Tony Parkes, as a caretaker, saved Blackburn from such a perilous position in 1996-97, while Harry Reknapp saw Tottenham to safety in 2008-09. Tony Pulis helped Crystal Palace avoid the drop in 2013-14, although by the time he took over from caretaker Keith Millen they were only three points off safety.

Only one of those five instances happened this late in a season, though - when Blackburn sacked Paul Ince on 16 December 2008 and hired Allardyce two days later.

The other four changes with teams five points adrift all happened in October.

One good omen for Wolves is that they were the second most recent team who changed managers while in the bottom three and stayed up. That was when Julen Lopetegui replaced Bruno Lage - via Steve Davis' caretaker spell - just before the 2022 World Cup.

Is there any hope for Southampton?

Um...

No team have ever had a change of manager when nine points adrift (or anything more than five points) and stayed up. In fact, only two teams have ever stayed up after being nine points or more from safety at any stage of the season. They are Blackburn in 1996-97 - a week or so after Parkes replaced Ray Harford - and West Ham in 2006-07.

The Hammers, who replaced Alan Pardew with Alan Curbishley earlier that season, were 10 points adrift with nine games to go - but they won seven of those to stay up.

Changing manager while in the drop zone has worked for Southampton three times - when Ian Branfoot left in 1993-94, Stuart Gray left in 2001-02 and Mark Hughes exited in 2018-19.

But the tactic failed for them twice in 2022-23 when first Ralph Hasenhuttl in November and then Nathan Jones in February left.

But in none of those instances were they in this big of a mess.

We also now know Southampton will be bottom of the table at Christmas - with only four previous teams having survived from that position in Premier League history. West Bromwich Albion (2004-05), Sunderland (2013-14), Leicester (2014-15) and Wolves (2022-23) are the four sides to manage it.

Have recent changes worked?

Looking more recently - in the five seasons previous to this campaign, 16 teams parted company with their manager while in the relegation zone. Only five of them stayed up.

Last season the same three teams spent most of the season in the bottom three - Burnley, Luton and Sheffield United. The Blades changed manager but the other two did not - and they all went down.


Russell Martin & Gary O'''Neil: Does sacking a Premier League manager help you avoid relegation? - BBC Sport

The Cann Table. Really shows how Soton are in the deepest of deep shit.

Points	Team
36	Liverpool
35
34	Chelsea
33
32
31
30	Arsenal
29
28	Nottm Forest
27	The Cheats
26
25	Bournemouth, A Villa
24	Fulham, Brighton
23	Tottenham, Brentford, Newcastle
22	Merchandise Utd
21
20
19	West Ham
18
17
16	Crystal Palace
15	Everton
14	Leicester City
13
12	Ipswich Town
11
10
9	Wolves
8
7
6
5	Southampton

The Friedkin Group has completed the majority takeover of Premier League club Everton. The American ownership group - led by Dan Friedkin - have acquired Farhad Moshiri's 94.1% share in the club, reportedly worth in excess of £400 million.

Everton majority takeover completed by '''deeply committed''' Friedkin Group as Farhad Moshiri era comes to an end - Eurosport

I think Toffees fans will breathe a huge sigh of relief that Moshiri has finally gone, but those in the know won't be getting too excited just yet.

Everton news: Roma supporter on The Friedkin Group - BBC Sport

Save Amorim

Forest up to 2nd.

Great to see.


A proper team, with proper history, doing it properly.