Thread: Cambodia : US agents tracking down sex tourists

Originally Posted by robuzo

Nobody in their right mind would be opposed to locking up child abusers, but there are rights and privacy issues that require concern. Are they merely assisting the Cambodians in applying their own laws? It does look like they are going beyond that. Which country's age of consent is applicable? This varies by state in the US, sometimes drastically. Will suspicions about child sex tourism be used as an excuse to search hard drives and memory media of returning US tourists? Do I have to be concerned about photos on my HD of my own kid frolicking nude on a beach in Thailand? From what I have heard, I do.

As I said, the stated motivations of the government are good, and if it gives sex predators pause, fine. Nonetheless, the possibilities for excess and abuse by law enforcement are serious. It might be more effective to encourage the Cambodians (and Thais) to get serious about enforcing their own laws.

Very easy not to have that problem, just keep the dicks out of anyone under 21, should be no problem for your average Asian sex-tourist or expat most being much older men as it is, and who have no business banging under 18 year old girls anyway.

If "John's" are in the slightest doubt about age walk away, there is thousands and thousands of more than Willing adult prostitutes to go around, quite sick really with 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - year olds having to deliberately search for the borderline wanting to fuck someone younger or much younger than their own daughters !! not to much difference from real pedophiles now is there.

And NO !! even if they do it voluntarily it is very unlikely they are mature enough to have been making an informed right choice, that is why in most Countries we don't trust under 18 year olds to drive a car, to vote, get married, buy alcohol ect ect.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

If "John's" are in the slightest doubt about age walk away, there is thousands and thousands of more than Willing adult prostitutes to go around, quite sick really with 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - year olds having to deliberately search for the borderline wanting to fuck someone younger or much younger than their own daughters !! not to much difference from real pedophiles now is there.

Why, if they are "consenting adults" then why is this a problem? The only problem is prudes like you who have absolutely no business telling other people what to do with their life. Get over it, sex is totally natural and should have nothing to do with ones siblings.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

And NO !! even if they do it voluntarily it is very unlikely they are mature enough to have been making an informed right choice, that is why in most Countries we don't trust under 18 year olds to drive a car, to vote, get married, buy alcohol ect ect.

Mature enough? Stop putting young adults in a cage for your own amusement. If you look at the age of marriage, buying of alcohol of most countries the laws are generally very confused and have nothing to do with maturity of the individual. There are plenty the specify different ages for males and females.

Also the abbreviation for et cetera is 'etc', not 'ect'.

Originally Posted by DroversDog

Originally Posted by larvidchr

If "John's" are in the slightest doubt about age walk away, there is thousands and thousands of more than Willing adult prostitutes to go around, quite sick really with 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - year olds having to deliberately search for the borderline wanting to fuck someone younger or much younger than their own daughters !! not to much difference from real pedophiles now is there.

Why, if they are "consenting adults" then why is this a problem? The only problem is prudes like you who have absolutely no business telling other people what to do with their life. Get over it, sex is totally natural and should have nothing to do with ones siblings.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

And NO !! even if they do it voluntarily it is very unlikely they are mature enough to have been making an informed right choice, that is why in most Countries we don't trust under 18 year olds to drive a car, to vote, get married, buy alcohol ect ect.

Mature enough? Stop putting young adults in a cage for your own amusement. If you look at the age of marriage, buying of alcohol of most countries the laws are generally very confused and have nothing to do with maturity of the individual. There are plenty the specify different ages for males and females.

Also the abbreviation for et cetera is 'etc', not 'ect'.

Consenting ADULTS, and the age of consent, is two different things to most normal people you sick puppy.

And those laws have everything to do with maturity in the developed world, some Country's see the limits a little bit different but the laws are there for the same reasons - protecting the young.

Although you show great spelling skill you obviously have big problems with morals and decency, and understanding the reasoning behind laws, but then again you don't have to understand why as long as you just follow the law, remember some places in the west it is illegal to even buy a prostitute even if she is as old as your grandmother, if you forget you might be spelling your name in front of a Judge but that wont impress the hell out of him either.

Now for free advise - go fuck yourself - that way you are sure not to get in any trouble

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Consenting ADULTS, and the age of consent, is two different things to most normal people you sick puppy.

Sorry you are so naive. How is the age of consent different from consenting adults when the law itself does not make a difference. Look in the mirror before you call other people sick!

Originally Posted by larvidchr

And those laws have everything to do with maturity in the developed world, some Country's see the limits a little bit different but the laws are there for the same reasons - protecting the young.

Absolute bollocks. Just go google and you will see that the age which people can marry in most countries is based on stupid cultural practices and has nothing to do with any logic of maturity. Below is only one of the developed worlds rules. Try telling me that New Hampshire's rule have anything to do with maturity. Why is it so different between states. What have parental consent go do do with it. In Thailand that just means the parents will go for as much money as the can get before they consent (unless their child is really butt ugly).

• United States: Usually 18. Most states, however, allow marriage at a younger age with parental and/or judicial consent. Some states allow marriage at a still younger age if the female is pregnant. There is one state (Nebraska, 19) that has a higher age.
  • Alabama: 18, 16 with parental consent. (statute).
  • Alaska: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Arizona: no statutory minimum, under 18 with parental consent, under 16 with approval of a superior court judge and parental consent. (statute)
  • Arkansas: 18, 16 for females and 17 for males with parental consent.[57]
  • California: no statutory minimum, those under 18 must receive approval of a superior court judge, or parental consent.
  • Colorado: 18, 16 with parental consent, no minimum with judicial approval.[57][58][59]
  • Connecticut: 18, 16 with parental consent;[60] Under 16 w/ judicial & parental consent.[61]
  • District of Columbia: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Delaware: 18, 16 for females with parental consent, 17 for males with parental consent.[57]
  • Florida: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Georgia: 18, 15 with parental consent, 16 without parental consent if pregnant.[57]
  • Hawaii: 18, 15 with parental consent.[57]
  • Idaho: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Illinois: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Indiana: 18, 17 with parental consent, 15 in the case of pregnancy with both parental and judicial consent.[62]
  • Iowa: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Kansas: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Kentucky: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Louisiana: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Maine: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Massachusetts: 18 for first marriage, 14 (male) 12 (female) with parental and judicial consent.[57]
  • Maryland: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Michigan: 18, 16 with parental consent, 15 and under with parental consent and probate judge approval.
  • Minnesota: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Mississippi: 17 for males, 15 for females, no minimum with parental and judicial consent. (statute)
  • Missouri: 18, 15 with parental consent.[57]
  • Montana: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Nebraska: 19, 17 with parental consent.[57]
  • Nevada: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • New Hampshire: 18, 14 for males and 13 for females, in cases of "special cause" with parental consent and court permission.
  • New Jersey: 18, 16 with parental consent and in the case of pregnancy.
  • New Mexico: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • New York: 18, 16 with parental consent, 14 with parental and judicial consent.[63]
  • North Carolina: 18, 16 with parental consent, unlimited in case of pregnancy or birth of child with parental consent.
  • North Dakota: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Ohio: 18 for males, 16 for females, less with parental consent.
  • Oklahoma: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Oregon: 18, 17 with parental consent. The consenting parent or guardian must accompany the applicant when applying for the marriage license.
  • Pennsylvania: 18, 16 with parental consent, 14 in case of pregnancy and with the approval of a Judge of the Orphans Court.
  • Rhode Island: 18, 16 for females with parental consent.[57]
  • South Carolina: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • South Dakota: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Tennessee: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Texas: 18, 16 with parental consent. 14 with judicial consent or if person under 18 had previously married and divorced.
  • Utah: 18, 16 with parental consent, 15 with court approval.[64]
  • Vermont: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Virginia: 18, 16 with parental consent.[65]
  • Washington: 18, 17 with parental consent.[57] May be waived by superior court judge.(statute)
  • West Virginia: 18, 16 with parental consent, under 16 (unspecified limit) with parental and judicial consent[57][66]
  • Wisconsin: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57]
  • Wyoming: 18, 16 with parental consent.[57

Ok a couple more to see how you go -

Denmark: 18, 15 demand a exemption named "Kongebrev" (historical: "letter [from the] king [by a a exemption]"), today the local authority give approval if the couple have own home.

Hmmm, this stupidity is from your own part of the world isn't it. Hmmm, "couple have own home"? Does this include if they are squatting?

Netherlands: 18, 16 with parental consent, under 16 with personal permission from the queen.

WTF does any queen have to do with it.....

Canada: Varies by province, but generally 18 years old, 16 years with parental consent, 14 years with judicial consent.

Venezuela: 18, 14 for females and 16 for males with parental consent.

Philippines: 18. If any spouse is 18–20 years and the consent of "parental" authority is not met, marriage may be prevented or annulled by any party that demands it.[42] On the other hand, Muslim marriages in the Philippines is based on the Shari'a: 15 yrs for males and as for females, the onset of puberty to age 15, whichever comes first. *Code of Muslim Personal Laws of the Philippines Additionally, for indigenous Philippine tribes, the age is set according to the respective tribe's laws.

Thailand: 20, 17 with parental consent, 15 in special circumstances with court approval. Note: The hill tribes follow traditional rules, as 12 for female be found.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Although you show great spelling skill you obviously have big problems with morals and decency,

Sorry, you are the one with the ignorance as to what morals and decency actually mean. What are moral's. Where did they come from. How do they benefit people when everybody has their own idea of what morals are?

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Now for free advise - go fuck yourself - that way you are sure not to get in any trouble

Spoken like a true tosser...

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Very easy not to have that problem, just keep the dicks out of anyone under 21, should be no problem for your average Asian sex-tourist or expat most being much older men as it is, and who have no business banging under 18 year old girls anyway.

So is that under-21 or under-18 when you become King of the World, Larv? Anyway, if the bar is set that high the US agents are going to have a lot of work to do at home, since the age of consent is 16 in most states. I think your prescription is blurring the line between the distasteful and the irredeemably perverted/criminal.

While I think I've tangoed with this tar baby as much or more than I should have, here's an anecdote. My girlfriend during the summer prior to my final year of high school was 24- I didn't mention that I was 17 until it was time to leave the seaside town where I was working and had to go back to school. I hadn't got round to mentioning my age until we had been "dating" for a couple of months- she thought I was 20, which is even older than my fake ID said I was. Sure glad nobody arrested her, would have tainted what are otherwise very happy memories.

Originally Posted by robuzo

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Very easy not to have that problem, just keep the dicks out of anyone under 21, should be no problem for your average Asian sex-tourist or expat most being much older men as it is, and who have no business banging under 18 year old girls anyway.

So is that under-21 or under-18 when you become King of the World, Larv? Anyway, if the bar is set that high the US agents are going to have a lot of work to do at home, since the age of consent is 16 in most states. I think your prescription is blurring the line between the distasteful and the irredeemably perverted/criminal.

While I think I've tangoed with this tar baby as much or more than I should have, here's an anecdote. My girlfriend during the summer prior to my final year of high school was 24- I didn't mention that I was 17 until it was time to leave the seaside town where I was working and had to go back to school. I hadn't got round to mentioning my age until we had been "dating" for a couple of months- she thought I was 20, which is even older than my fake ID said I was. Sure glad nobody arrested her, would have tainted what are otherwise very happy memories.

The 21 was just to be on the safe side since i seem to remember that there still is some places where 21 is the limit for alcohol voting a.s.o. anyway if the 3 year age difference gives anyone sexual dysfunction they should go and see a shrink rather than a prostitute, and yes I'm mixing the distasteful with the criminal, the one gets you in trouble with the law the other should get you in trouble everywhere else.

I have no problems with young people of near/close to similar age falling in love or merely exploring their growing sexuality together, and your personal example is in that category, the problem comes when people fail to understand that the age of consent is set deliberately low in most developed country's to avoid criminalizing what is natural behavior in young people, that however is not a signal to old perverts to use their money, authority and experience to seduce and exploit children, and many Countries have amendments to the law where such behaviour still can be prosecuted, or social authorities can intervene if the parents don't and get the child/young out of trouble, otherwise it is so socially unacceptable that the ones not understanding that mostly is kept at bay by society and parents at large.