Thread: Mystery Phi Phi Deaths; Survivor Speaks, Finally

^Is this guy paranoid, delusional or both? Just because two posters are in agreement on some things doesn't mean we're ganging up on you (or that we are one and the same--oy vey). I hear another train wreck coming! Screeeeecchhhhh.....Bam! Discussion derailed while we deal with the wreckage!

But I digress. The most noteworthy thing in Ryan's account above is---wow, the revelation! now revealed after how many freaking months?! (gee, thanks for keeping us in the dark all this time!)....is:

THERE WAS CHOLINESTERASE INHIBITORS FOUND IN THE BLOOD.

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Okay, all you posters who posited poisoning by pesticides, looks like you nailed it. (I was one of them, but, ahem, I also posited every other method and substance under the sun, so I don't count). But I still submit that they could have ingested this. Breathing it is not the only way. I know they think they smelled something 'funny', but like I said before, Thailand is full of chemical smells. Correlation does not prove causation. If breathing, then perhaps (maybe!) accidental. If ingested, well, we still need to know did the two couples eat at the same restaurant. (But a serial killer/poisoner could have been in more than one place/restaurant.) Yet it is also possible that if ingested then that, too, was accidental if someone supplied water bottles to the guesthouse that had residual pesticide in them--as some posters have suggested. Still, you got to wonder about those other 'mysterious' deaths, independent of these 4 people at Laleena Guest House. So I'd like to wonder why the experts they consulted think the cholinesterase inhibitors came from a GAS, since that poison can be ingested as well.

Too bad someone didn't have atropine to inject into them—which can help treat the poisoning. I carry it in my backpack when I minister to dogs at the Wats, etc, because I do have occasion to treat dogs who are poisoned by pesticides with cholinesterase inhibitors. I'd like to hear from a poison expert if a trial injection of atropine would be in order if Emergency Room personnel weren't sure of the poison, yet knowing that pesticide poisoning is very common in Thailand. You've got a person dying, you don't have much time...jeesh, looks kinda like symptoms of organophosphate or carbamate poisoning: so let's try some atropine. (Ah, probably not that simple.)