Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

Originally Posted by thailazer

They must be totally out of their element. You would think the investigation team would be addressing several possibilities in parallel, looking at the evidence and factors involved in each possibility in a balanced and logical manner while looking at new suspects and possibilities. Making statements of their "thought du jour" like this doesn't help anyone and it makes it look like a moth chasing the light. Let's hope they stumble into the killers soon.

You have to remember that arresting the murderers isn't their priority.

Their priority is to protect themselves, locals and connected Thais at all other costs.

Their face is far more important than two farang travelers.

Originally Posted by DBell

You have to remember that arresting the murderers isn't their priority.

Their priority is to protect themselves, locals and connected Thais at all other costs.

Their face is far more important than two farang travelers.

Not only that.....but as we've already mentioned, it's almost certain that those involved hold dual membership as Thai mafia/BIB.

So, the reality is, the perpetrators are investigating themselves.

By the end of next week, it'll be completely off the news.

Posts #701 & #702......
Probably spot on as we all understand the ways things are.

A side note to this tragedy: there are some extraordinarily gruesome photos of the victims making their rounds within certain Thai FB circles.

Quite brutal....

Originally Posted by Stranger

as we've already mentioned, it's almost certain that those involved hold dual membership as Thai mafia/BIB.

So, the reality is, the perpetrators are investigating themselves.

Wouldn't go that far. It's more than likely that they have very close relations (family) to the upper echelons of the local power brokers.

To say that it's almost certain that those involved (as in the murderers) are RTP officers is a bit of mouth-frothing at best.

Originally Posted by Neo

Always trolling Necron.. gets a bit tedious.

It's not trolling. Do you believe a statement that he was tested and cleared to be valid or not?
personally, as stated, I would not trust Thai DNA testing after all this fucwittery.
There doesn't have to be a grand conspiracy amongst all thai police, just a pathway to funnel money to the forensics lab.
Who can question them? Other than outside agencies.

Originally Posted by DBell

Wouldn't go that far. It's more than likely that they have very close relations (family) to the upper echelons of the local power brokers.

I would go that far.

Either they're directly or indirectly (through family members) involved.

But one thing's for sure.....

BIB/Thai mafia holding dual membership, and their family members are up to their necks in this.

Key witness says foreigner kills British tourists - Thai PBS English News

Key witness says foreigner kills British tourists
in General | September 27, 2014

Eighth Region Police Command commissioner says police investigators have obtained a key witness who said foreigner killed the two British tourists in Koh Tao island.
The latest twist in the investigation was revealed Saturday by commissioner Pol Lt Gen Panya Mamen.

The Nation Online website quoted Pol Lt Gen Panya Manen as telling the online newspapers today that the team of police investigators have met a key witness who claimed seeing foreigner killed the two tourists.

No further details were produced as to whether the witness is a male or female or the witness is a local or a foreigner, and how many were involved in the murder of the two foreigners.

But this latest disclosure, if confirmed, will be a significant turn of the probe which earlier focused only on locals and migrant workers after DNA testing revealed the mixed semen found inside Ms Hannah Witheridge belonged to Asians.

More than 300 migrant workers and locals were rounded up to have their DNA samples tested. But none has matched DNA found in her body.

The disclosure of the key witness who the police still kept confidential would give new clue to the brutal murder of Ms Hannah and her friend David Miller.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Posts #701 & #702......
Probably spot on as we all understand the ways things are.

A side note to this tragedy: there are some extraordinarily gruesome photos of the victims making their rounds within certain Thai FB circles.

Quite brutal....

Yes, curious creatures, aren't they.

The pics came from the local police and various odds and sods who traipsed over the crime scene contaminating it whilst taking shots of the corpses on their IPhones.

Still, being Buddhist they haven't the same regard for human dignity as Christians.

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by Neo

Always trolling Necron.. gets a bit tedious.

It's not trolling. Do you believe a statement that he was tested and cleared to be valid or not?

What I said was; the question of whether there has been a DNA match, is pertinent and should remain so. I haven't read anywhere that a DNA comparison has taken place, and I assume neither have you. As to whether a positive match would be revealed, I have also stated that I'm well aware of how the system is run in Thailand.

Negative test, positive test, veracity of police statements, looking back at your posts it is not clear what you are saying.

The truth is unattainable...

Originally Posted by Stranger

By the end of next week, it'll be completely off the news.

It's already been dropped in the UK.

^Lancelot, hit the nail on the head. It's unfortunate, but true.

Thailand hides behind it's developing nation status, to somehow lesson it's responsibility in these matters. Like a puppy gets away with 'murder' with little punishment, or consequence.

Originally Posted by terry57

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A Journalist wrote that article for money, Don't believe that at all.

For sure they would of been made to supply a DNA test.

Those few Powerful families are not more Powerful than the Police investigating.

I see it a bit different Terry. I like a lot of your posts, so the following is in the vein of polite disagreement.

Yes the cops have more legitimate power, clearly more than the 'influential' families on Koh Tao. Lets just say if a police general's daughter had been murdered the actual killer would be smoke up the chimney already. Or food for the fishes....

I would argue that the thai cops can solve murders reasonably well- when they want to do so. Most cops are more connected with the community, they know the people and the people know them. And the Thais are always observing, they see every thing and know who does what in their neighborhoods.

If the murderer were a member of a powerful family, the Thai angle wood be:

1 Yeah we can solve the murder, but that's a one off. The extended family will be around and we'll have to deal/co-exist with them for years to come. We can manage the PR crisis but what will the blow back be from our fellow Thais?

2 Farangs have been murdered before and they (farangs) keep returning in ever increasing numbers. Time heals all wounds, so to speak.

3 How about the Red Bull heir that hit ran over a cop and drug his body for a considerable distance before running away from the scene. How much time has he done? Or will ever do? Is that family more powerful than the police?

One article that I read in the Bangkok Post reported that two family members had been questioned; they refused to give a DNA sample and were released from custody.

I don't know who the killer is but the victims were not Thais- and the culprits are.

There in lies the difference.

Remember the Saudi jewel heist? How about the unsolved murders of several Saudi diplomats that were investigating the theft? If a foreign diplomat's murder goes 'unsolved' what are the chances of two back packers families getting justice if the actual culprits arrest will 'complicate' matters?

Just my two satang

Seems there is only three cops on the island and one was under investigation, don't shoot the messenger just something i read.

Originally Posted by Koojo

I was under the impression this was also being investigated by unconnected (to the island and the island families) top cops from Bangkok and 'the General' was taking an interest in this.
I would love to see them eventually bring in some outside heavies (MIB) and shut that shit down.

Originally Posted by Lancelot

3 How about the Red Bull heir that hit ran over a cop and drug his body for a considerable distance before running away from the scene. How much time has he done? Or will ever do? Is that family more powerful than the police?

Sorry, but this is a non-issue here...That was "Thai on Thai," if you will...You guys need to quit trying to "educate" everybody on the "way it is in Thailand." And, strange as it may be, traffic "accidents" are a "strange beast" sometimes, in any country...There always seems to be a little more "leeway" when you kill someone with a car...The nature of the word, "accident," perhaps...

We know how it is in Thailand...And it could very well include transgressions against foreigners, too...Terry is right, in my opinion, when he says that the police are bigger than the Turtle Island Turds..."Prey-Youth" is already circling the wagons around this place, and I really doubt those little hard-asses have any chance against that tide, no matter what their supposed connections...I'm not saying the murders will be solved...I'm saying "Prey-Youth" is the big man on the island any time he wants to be...

I sincerely hope he has been embarrassed enough to want the real killers badly enough to see it through properly...And I think he is a bit smarter than to let us all know how he's going to do it day by day...

Prayuth for his PR will want a conclusion to this, the fourth army being there i'm sure he will get it.

They are already in the process of resolving the crime Thai style. Several witnesses will be produced who will say that they saw some anonymous foreign workers near the scene which will be further corroborated by other sources. These suspects will be identified as having left the island and their whereabouts are as yet unknown. Efforts to trace them will be made but eventually the investigation will wither away but the killers will be firmly fixed in the minds of all as Burmese or Cambodians or even Rohingya.

Case effectively solved.

Just wait for the " eye witnesses " this week.

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Thailand needs some social justice to really move forward and reach its full potential as a country.

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Thai on Thai crime is exactly the point. If a poor Thai commits a murder, as in the recent case of a worker raping, then murdering a young girl, he is jailed, with calls for execution. If a rich/connected Thai murders some one, well... Yes, the Red Bull heir was more manslaughter but in the west people do time for that. Do you honestly believe that guy will ever see the insides of a jail cell, even a resort type one?

By your own evidence, Thailand is unlikely to reach its potential any time soon.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Thailand needs some social justice to really move forward and reach its full potential as a country.

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Thai on Thai crime is exactly the point. If a poor Thai commits a murder, as in the recent case of a worker raping, then murdering a young girl, he is jailed, with calls for execution. If a rich/connected Thai murders some one, well... Yes, the Red Bull heir was more manslaughter but in the west people do time for that. Do you honestly believe that guy will ever see the insides of a jail cell, even a resort type one?

By your own evidence, Thailand is unlikely to reach its potential any time soon.

No argument from me...

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Friend saw my post and was asking about the Forgotten Chiang Mai Killer. Here 'tis:
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