Thread: Indian gang-rape victim dies in Singapore

Gang-rape victim cremated in New Delhi
Sunday, December 30, 2012


The victim of a gang-rape which triggered an outpouring of grief has been cremated at a private ceremony.

The victim of a gang-rape which triggered an outpouring of grief and anger across India has been cremated at a private ceremony in New Delhi as it emerged she was planning to get married in February.

The unidentified 23-year-old, the focus of nationwide protests since she was brutally attacked on a bus in New Delhi two weeks ago, died on Saturday of her injuries in a Singapore hospital where she had been airlifted for treatment.

She was cremated on Sunday away from the public glare only hours after her body was repatriated.

The funeral pyre was lit after traumatised relatives and friends said their final prayers at a ceremony in southwestern Delhi, according to mourners who revealed she had been due to wed her boyfriend, who was injured in the same attack.

'They had made all the wedding preparations and had planned a wedding party in Delhi' for February, said Meena Rai, a close friend and neighbour.
'I really loved this girl,' she said. 'She was the brightest of all.'

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi, the leader of the main ruling Congress Party, were at Delhi airport to console the victim's parents as they arrived home on a chartered plane with their daughter's body at 4.00am (0930 AEDT) on Sunday.

The victim's death has prompted government promises of better protection for women and deep soul-searching in a nation where gang-rapes are a daily occurrence and sexual harassment is routinely dismissed as 'Eve-teasing'.

Waves of protests have erupted across India since the attack on the night of December 16 when the woman was not only repeatedly raped but also sexually assaulted with an iron bar, leaving her with terrible intestinal injuries.

Thousands took part in late-night candlelit vigils on Saturday after Singh led appeals for calm to prevent a repeat of the sometimes violent protests.

As police said the six accused of murdering the unnamed woman could face the death penalty, there was a widespread determination that the killing would serve as a tipping point for how the nation deals with violence against women.

'We are aware that this is not the first case, nor will it be the last case of gang-rape in India, but it is clear that we will not tolerate sex crimes any more,' said Bela Rana, a lawyer who joined a rally in central Delhi.

The city has been dubbed the 'rape capital' of India. A report in Sunday's Hindustan Times said more than 20 women had been raped there since December 16.

According to police and prosecutors, the murder victim's ordeal began when six men lured her and her male companion onto a bus that they thought would take them home.

Instead a group of joyriders, who had been drinking heavily, launched a savage attack lasting some 40 minutes that only ended when the victims were thrown off the bus.

The attack has prompted intense debate among Indians who had grown almost inured to an epidemic of violence against women.

Gang-rapes are so common that they rarely get a mention in the newspapers. Victims are often deterred even from reporting them for fear of shaming their families or receiving a brush-off from police.

The Times of India said in an editorial on Sunday that two key questions must be addressed in the aftermath of the incident: 'What exactly will the government do now to make the country a safer and better place for all women? And what will all of us do to tackle deeply entrenched prejudice and misogyny in our society?'

The government has already promised to bring in tougher sentences for the most extreme sex crimes and speed up a notoriously slow justice system.

bigpondnews.com

India gang-rape victim's family want killers executed
31/12/2012

The family of a murdered Indian gang-rape victim will not rest until her killers are hanged, her brother said.


Protesters hold banners and wear black ribbons during a rally in New Delhi on December 30, 2012, following the cremation of a murdered gang-rape victim in the Indian capital. Her family will not rest until her killers are hanged, her brother said on Monday.

"The fight has just begun. We want all the accused hanged, and we will fight for that, till the end," the brother told the Indian Express.

Six men are facing murder charges after allegedly luring the 23-year-old onto a bus in New Delhi on December 16 and then taking it in turns to rape her before throwing her out of the moving vehicle.

She died of her injuries in a Singapore hospital on Saturday and was cremated back in Delhi on Sunday morning.

Speaking to the same newspaper, the young woman's father spoke of the impact of the tragedy on the family, saying her mother is consumed by grief.

"My wife had hardly eaten in the last two weeks," said the father.

"She was exhausted... I think she was not ready to face the shock of our daughter's death, despite doctors always telling us that she was serious. She cried intermittently all of Saturday, but it got worse on the flight back home."

The father said he too was struggling to accept the news.

"It is too painful. I have not gone inside her room. She was born in this house. Her books, clothes they are all here," he said.

"It is hard to believe I will never hear her voice again, she will never read books to me in English again."

India does have the death penalty on its statute book although executions are rarely carried out.

Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, the only surviving gunman of the 2008 Mumbai attacks, was hanged last month but it was the first execution for eight years.

bangkokpost.com

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Mid

one wonders if some of our less desirable members will contribute to this thread ?

Quite. The hypocrisy is sickening. While this thread is running there is another one saying that woman can't be raped against their will and that getting them so drunk that they're unconscious is a perfectly legitimate way of getting a fuck, not to forget the five or six a-holes on this forums who say that rape never really happens and is just a lie used by woman to exert power over men. Only difference between some of the posters here and the guys who committed this horrible crimes is that some people here have either not been caught or confine their sick fantasies to their imaginations.

Worth repeating.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Mid

one wonders if some of our less desirable members will contribute to this thread ?

Quite. The hypocrisy is sickening. While this thread is running there is another one saying that woman can't be raped against their will and that getting them so drunk that they're unconscious is a perfectly legitimate way of getting a fuck, not to forget the five or six a-holes on this forums who say that rape never really happens and is just a lie used by woman to exert power over men. Only difference between some of the posters here and the guys who committed this horrible crimes is that some people here have either not been caught or confine their sick fantasies to their imaginations.

Worth repeating.

There is no hypocrisy in feeling sickened at this terrible story and being ambivalent about the claims of sexual assault from the German girl on the other thread.

This Indian girl endured a violent 1 hour gang rape which included being beaten about the torso and head with an iron bar while fully conscious and terrified beyond her imagination. She struggled on but eventually died of her injuries a week later.

The German girl may or may not have been sexually assaulted while she was passed out but she does not remember anything.

Do the folk crying hypocrisy not see that one story is orders of magnitude worse than the other in terms of the depravity and total abandonment of basic human rules about how we treat one another?

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Mid

one wonders if some of our less desirable members will contribute to this thread ?

Quite. The hypocrisy is sickening. While this thread is running there is another one saying that woman can't be raped against their will and that getting them so drunk that they're unconscious is a perfectly legitimate way of getting a fuck, not to forget the five or six a-holes on this forums who say that rape never really happens and is just a lie used by woman to exert power over men. Only difference between some of the posters here and the guys who committed this horrible crimes is that some people here have either not been caught or confine their sick fantasies to their imaginations.

Worth repeating.

Utter and absolute rubbish.
The 'victim' on the other thread willingly went alone with the male to his place and drank (willingly) untill she was so drunk she can't remember whether she did or did not consent and didn't even know she'd had sex untill he told her.
To try and compare that with a woman who was so violently gang raped (and then thrown off a moving bus) that she died of her injuries is to lessen and minimize the evil visited on the indian woman.
Try and keep things in perspective.

Yes. Keeping it in perspective.

Violent rape is violent rape, regardless.
Comparisons needn't apply.

I might add that these debates and discussions would take on a diiferent tone altogether if being bantied around by females, less the same indifferent crowd of male dominance.

Originally Posted by Looper

Do the folk crying hypocrisy not see that one story is orders of magnitude worse than the other in terms of the depravity and total abandonment of basic human rules about how we treat one another?

Yes, it's obvious. But unless your standard has dropped to one step above the lowest of the low, about as low as you can go without being an outright animal, we don't just condemn the lowest of the low.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

didn't even know she'd had sex untill he told her

In that case she was raped. No consent to sex = rape. Doesn't matter whether some posters (certainly not you RS, you just happened to provide a usable quote) here thinks it's OK for them to fuck a semi-conscious or unconscious person (necrophiliac tendencies?) the fact remains that the law (and, one hopes, basic decency) classes any form of sexual activity where consent has not been given as rape. Deal with it, if you fuck an unconscious or semiconscious person you're a rapist. As I mentioned earlier, the lowest of the low.

The quote above isn't mine, Bob.

Please, get your quote tabs/selections in order if you would.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

didn't even know she'd had sex untill he told her

In that case she was raped. No consent to sex = rape. Doesn't matter whether some posters (certainly not you RS, you just happened to provide a usable quote) here thinks it's OK for them to fuck a semi-conscious or unconscious person (necrophiliac tendencies?) the fact remains that the law (and, one hopes, basic decency) classes any form of sexual activity where consent has not been given as rape. Deal with it, if you fuck an unconscious or semiconscious person you're a rapist. As I mentioned earlier, the lowest of the low.

The quote above isn't mine, Bob.

Please, get your quote tabs/selections in order if you would.

Thanks.

Apologies RS. Changed it now, Blame Mr Chang

Originally Posted by Koojo

The very point you are missing is that she MAY WELL HAVE consented.

May well?? That's not a point, that's a presumption. Of course that's why we have courts and forensics departments. They may not be perfect but they're probably a little better than a bunch of forum pundits who think with their dicks.

Of course my point was, a point that you completely missed, that if she DIDN'T consent then she WAS raped. Have you go that? It's not complicated, if she DID NOT consent then she was raped. NO CONSENT = RAPE. And contrariwise, if she DID consent then she was NOT raped. CONSENT = NOT RAPE. Is that clear enough for you? If you still have difficulty understanding these difficult concepts then ask the nearest 8 year-old. I'm sure they'll be able to clarify it for you.

^No presumption there. I guessed you missed all those "if"s. Do you have difficulty with such long words? Next time when responding to you I'll try to use words of no syllables, although, to be honest, I have to say I'm not entirely sanguine about your ability to comprehend those either.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

^No presumption there. I guessed you missed all those "if"s. Do you have difficulty with such long words? Next time when responding to you I'll try to use words of no syllables, although, to be honest, I have to say I'm not entirely sanguine about your ability to comprehend those either.

You seem to selectively read my posts.
I'm not too sure about your ability to comprehend basic concepts, let alone words.
Use enough 'If's and you obscure your point to the point you don't have one.
I said 'may well' and you jumped all over it as presumption.
But 'if' is ok because your using it you pompous gasbag.
The point is IF he fucked her while comatose of course it's rape, but you keep assuming he did.
Personally I doubt it, but I wasn't there and neither were you, and you didn't answer.
If he did rape her do you think that is equaly as heinous a crime as what was done to the Indian girl?

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by DrB0b

^No presumption there. I guessed you missed all those "if"s. Do you have difficulty with such long words? Next time when responding to you I'll try to use words of no syllables, although, to be honest, I have to say I'm not entirely sanguine about your ability to comprehend those either.

You seem to selectively read my posts.
I'm not too sure about your ability to comprehend basic concepts, let alone words.
Use enough 'If's and you obscure your point to the point you don't have one.
I said 'may well' and you jumped all over it as presumption.
But 'if' is ok because your using it you pompous gasbag.
The point is IF he fucked her while comatose of course it's rape, but you keep assuming he did.
Personally I doubt it, but I wasn't there and neither were you, and you didn't answer.
If he did rape her do you think that is equaly as heinous a crime as what was done to the Indian girl?

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Feel free to to use them. They might help the rest of us understand what the feck you're jabbering about.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

^No presumption there. I guessed you missed all those "if"s. Do you have difficulty with such long words? Next time when responding to you I'll try to use words of no syllables, although, to be honest, I have to say I'm not entirely sanguine about your ability to comprehend those either.

Um, I count ONE 'IF'
And an "IN THAT CASE SHE WAS RAPED" in response to the statement that she didn't even know she'd been raped untill he told her.
Which doesn't mean definitely that she didn't give consent, just that she was POSSIBLY pissed and forgot, so it's not a situation of 'IN THAT CASE..." it's a situation of "IF THAT WERE THE CASE.."

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koojo
didn't even know she'd had sex untill he told her

In that case she was raped. No consent to sex = rape. Doesn't matter whether some posters (certainly not you RS, you just happened to provide a usable quote) here thinks it's OK for them to fuck a semi-conscious or unconscious person (necrophiliac tendencies?) the fact remains that the law (and, one hopes, basic decency) classes any form of sexual activity where consent has not been given as rape. Deal with it, if you fuck an unconscious or semiconscious person you're a rapist. As I mentioned earlier, the lowest of the low.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by DrB0b

^No presumption there. I guessed you missed all those "if"s. Do you have difficulty with such long words? Next time when responding to you I'll try to use words of no syllables, although, to be honest, I have to say I'm not entirely sanguine about your ability to comprehend those either.

You seem to selectively read my posts.
I'm not too sure about your ability to comprehend basic concepts, let alone words.
Use enough 'If's and you obscure your point to the point you don't have one.
I said 'may well' and you jumped all over it as presumption.
But 'if' is ok because your using it you pompous gasbag.
The point is IF he fucked her while comatose of course it's rape, but you keep assuming he did.
Personally I doubt it, but I wasn't there and neither were you, and you didn't answer.
If he did rape her do you think that is equaly as heinous a crime as what was done to the Indian girl?

You may find these useful;

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'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
??????????????????????????????

Feel free to to use them. They might help the rest of us understand what the feck you're jabbering about.

I use full stops and hope you've got the brains to work out the rest.
Nice response to my post by the way, attack the punctuation, that's the spirit.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by DrB0b

^No presumption there. I guessed you missed all those "if"s. Do you have difficulty with such long words? Next time when responding to you I'll try to use words of no syllables, although, to be honest, I have to say I'm not entirely sanguine about your ability to comprehend those either.

You seem to selectively read my posts.
I'm not too sure about your ability to comprehend basic concepts, let alone words.
Use enough 'If's and you obscure your point to the point you don't have one.
I said 'may well' and you jumped all over it as presumption.
But 'if' is ok because your using it you pompous gasbag.
The point is IF he fucked her while comatose of course it's rape, but you keep assuming he did.
Personally I doubt it, but I wasn't there and neither were you, and you didn't answer.
If he did rape her do you think that is equaly as heinous a crime as what was done to the Indian girl?

You may find these useful;

..........................................
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
??????????????????????????????

Feel free to to use them. They might help the rest of us understand what the feck you're jabbering about.

I use full stops and hope you've got the brains to work out the rest.
Nice response to my post by the way, attack the punctuation, that's the spirit.

Post something sensible and you might get a sensible response. What is with people like you and your sense of entitlement? Post shite and you get shite in return, Not everybody shares your high opinion of yourself. I hate to be the one to break it to you but you do write a lot of shite sometimes.

"If" the dog wouldn't have stopped to take a dump, would have he caught the fox?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by DrB0b

^No presumption there. I guessed you missed all those "if"s. Do you have difficulty with such long words? Next time when responding to you I'll try to use words of no syllables, although, to be honest, I have to say I'm not entirely sanguine about your ability to comprehend those either.

You seem to selectively read my posts.
I'm not too sure about your ability to comprehend basic concepts, let alone words.
Use enough 'If's and you obscure your point to the point you don't have one.
I said 'may well' and you jumped all over it as presumption.
But 'if' is ok because your using it you pompous gasbag.
The point is IF he fucked her while comatose of course it's rape, but you keep assuming he did.
Personally I doubt it, but I wasn't there and neither were you, and you didn't answer.
If he did rape her do you think that is equaly as heinous a crime as what was done to the Indian girl?

You may find these useful;

..........................................
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
??????????????????????????????

Feel free to to use them. They might help the rest of us understand what the feck you're jabbering about.

I use full stops and hope you've got the brains to work out the rest.
Nice response to my post by the way, attack the punctuation, that's the spirit.

Post something sensible and you might get a sensible response. What is with people like you and your sense of entitlement? Post shite and you get shite in return, Not everybody shares your high opinion of yourself. I hate to be the one to break it to you but you do write a lot of shite sometimes.

What do you mean 'people like me' 'sense of entitlement'
You didn't address any points in my post, just criticised punctuation.
I don't see you posting anything sensible mate, or responding to any points in my posts.

Crude bomb found near home of Delhi rape suspect
1/01/2013

Indian police on Tuesday arrested a man who was allegedly trying to plant a crude bomb near the home of one of the accused in the New Delhi gang-rape and murder case.


Police are seen watching protesters from behind a barrier during a rally in New Delhi, on December 30, 2012. Police on Tuesday arrested a man who was allegedly trying to plant a crude bomb near the home of one of the accused in the New Delhi gang-rape and murder case.

The 37-year-old man was arrested in the narrow bylanes of Ravi Dass Camp, a slum in southwest Delhi where four of the six accused lived, an officer in the city police control room said.

The low-grade device was filled with explosives usually used in firecrackers, he told AFP.

Two of the other accused come from outside Delhi, according to police.

The incident reflects growing anger across the country since the 23-year-old medical student was repeatedly assaulted and violated with an iron bar while being driven around in a bus on the night of December 16.

The suspects, some of whom were reportedly attacked in jail last week, are to be formally charged with rape and murder on Thursday.

The victim died of her grievous injuries in a Singapore hospital at the weekend.

Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde has said the suspects risked the death penalty if found guilty and the case against them appeared very strong.

bangkokpost.com

1 Indian gang rape suspect may be juvenile
Jan 02, 2013

NEW DELHI (AP) — A bone test is being conducted to confirm the age of a young suspect in custody in the fatal assault and gang rape of a woman on a bus in India’s capital, while prosecutors will seek the death penalty for five other men arrested with him, police said Tuesday.

The six will be formally charged in court on Thursday on accusations that they kidnapped, gang raped and murdered the 23-year-old woman in New Delhi on Dec. 16, police spokesman Rajan Bhagat said.

Media reports say some 30 witnesses have been gathered, and the charges have been detailed in a document running more than 1,000 pages.

Outraged Indians have been demanding the death penalty for the six men, holding demonstrations almost every day since the rape. Murder is punishable by death and rape by life imprisonment. But juveniles — those below 18 years of age — cannot be prosecuted for murder.

Another police officer said a bone test is being conducted to determine if the youngest suspect is indeed a juvenile. If the test determines he is 18 years or older he will be treated as an adult, said the officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to disclose sensitive information.

The brutality of the case has made Indians confront the reality that sexual violence is deeply entrenched in the society. Women face daily harassment, from catcalls on streets and groping in buses to rapes. Often police refuse to accept complaints by female victims and even accuse them of inviting unwanted male attention by dressing provocatively. Families also dissuade victims from coming forward in the belief that it will ruin their reputations.

Activists hope the savage assault on the woman, a physiotherapy student, will shake off the taboo and make authorities take such cases more seriously.

The woman and a male companion were attacked when they boarded an off-duty bus in southern New Delhi to go home. The six men, including the bus driver, allegedly took turns raping her and beat her with an iron bar which they also inserted in her body, causing severe injuries to her organs.

The woman, who has not been identified, was airlifted to Singapore for emergency treatment but died Saturday. She was cremated in New Delhi on Sunday, and the ashes were to be submerged in the holy river Ganges near her hometown in the northern Uttar Pradesh state in accordance with Hindu customs.

Protesters and politicians from across the spectrum called for a special session of Parliament to pass new laws to increase punishments for rapists — including possible chemical castration — and to set up fast-track courts to deal with rape cases within 90 days.

Thousands of Indians have lit candles and held prayer meetings and marches to express their grief and demand stronger protection for women and the death penalty for rape. The protests continued Tuesday.

On Monday, the Indian army and navy canceled their New Year’s Eve celebrations, as did Sonia Gandhi, head of the ruling Congress party.

Several hotels and clubs across the capital also did not hold their usual parties.

asiancorrespondent.com

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Mid

one wonders if some of our less desirable members will contribute to this thread ?

Quite. The hypocrisy is sickening. While this thread is running there is another one saying that woman can't be raped against their will and that getting them so drunk that they're unconscious is a perfectly legitimate way of getting a fuck, not to forget the five or six a-holes on this forums who say that rape never really happens and is just a lie used by woman to exert power over men. Only difference between some of the posters here and the guys who committed this horrible crimes is that some people here have either not been caught or confine their sick fantasies to their imaginations.

Worth repeating.

There is no hypocrisy in feeling sickened at this terrible story and being ambivalent about the claims of sexual assault from the German girl on the other thread.

This Indian girl endured a violent 1 hour gang rape which included being beaten about the torso and head with an iron bar while fully conscious and terrified beyond her imagination. She struggled on but eventually died of her injuries a week later.

The German girl may or may not have been sexually assaulted while she was passed out but she does not remember anything.

Do the folk crying hypocrisy not see that one story is orders of magnitude worse than the other in terms of the depravity and total abandonment of basic human rules about how we treat one another?

These guys are just hopeless. Allot of women likely see the diffrence and see through the bullshit,...