Thread: Abhisit Vejjajiva has been invited to deliver a speech on good governance

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Originally Posted by tomta

It became absolutely clear that Col. Samsern was lying as time went by. And the story changed as the day went on and it became absolutely clear that the army was firing real bullets. The army is only using blanks changed to the army is only shooting overhead to the army is only using rubber bullets through various configurations as the day went ahead.

Strangely, on this day, i don't remember even registering or knowing of the deaths of the army guys. My bias was to the redshirts and I was thinking of the stuff that was being done to them. I was emotionally engaged and I had a party that I was supporting.So, my testimony is quite suspect. I was looking from one side as we probably all do.

But I still maintain that, if you were to examine the TV and radio tapes of that day ( which no doubt could be done) an objective researcher would find that the army (the only explict story I waS hearing) clearly lied.

As I say, I was not there, I got my story from a bunch of sources, all of which might be wrong and all of which were changing. But the sources, I received proved this, the army lied.

Hi Tomta

I deleted some of your post above for brevity, but yes, absolutely this is also my recollection. And I know for sure, at that time, I posted (on Teakdoor) the video of France24 as soon as I saw it. This was the close-up video of the two soldiers clearly firing live rounds horizontally toward the crowd (of presumably reds if anyone wants to get really pedantic). That cameraman (Canadian guy) was shot three times in the next altercation as the army moved in to break up the reds' demo. He was shot next to Lumpini park - in broad daylight - by the army and there is no question about who shot him. He was shot several times and seriously injured - but lived.

I seem to recall he was a Canadian, Nelson Rand. Gladly not shot in the head. He is a war veteran now and all the best for him