Bangkok: Police Launches Investigation into Foreigner Assault on BTS Case

**Patrick** · 31-03-2012, 09:08 AM

Drummond is full of hot air on this and simply stoking the flames - not even Behan claimed he was attacked 4 times!

Why has the Farang prominently seen on the Video restraining Behan not come forward and given his story - he was there throughout the incident from start to finish. The fact he has not come out to publicly defend Behan says a lot in my opinion.

Patrick

**good2bhappy** · 31-03-2012, 09:30 AM

The guy is wrong
Infront of his daughter swearing and acting agresively. Not a great role model.
By himself one thing but infront of his kid he should have backed down and got a taxi.

**Seekingasylum** · 31-03-2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Patrick

Drummond is full of hot air on this and simply stoking the flames - not even Behan claimed he was attacked 4 times!

Why has the Farang prominently seen on the Video restraining Behan not come forward and given his story - he was there throughout the incident from start to finish. The fact he has not come out to publicly defend Behan says a lot in my opinion.

Patrick

I suggest you read the accounts, you moron.

Reading comments here is quite a useful object lesson in understanding why some folk end up in the blue collar, lower end.

**Seekingasylum** · 31-03-2012, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

The guy is wrong
Infront of his daughter swearing and acting agresively. Not a great role model.
By himself one thing but infront of his kid he should have backed down and got a taxi.

Standing up for oneself for some is quite instinctive whereas living on one's knees is more natural to others unhampered by any notion of self respect. I suspect your trousers must get worn out quite quickly.

The Irishman showed great strength of character and is to be applauded for his actions. Many here have spent so long snivelling to the Thai they have quite forgotten what it is to be a man.

**Perota** · 31-03-2012, 11:26 AM

[quote=Tom Sawyer;2053834]

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

First paragraph is different from the second one. The SCHOOL received the alleged call (note it's a "language' school - not a regular school). The FAMILY did not receive any call.

Knowing the way Thais operate, it may well be that this "school" wants the Irishman to quit - because it doesn't like the attention - and can't really fire him as they'd need to compensate him in the labor court.

It's classic Thai subterfuge. They tell him the office got a threatening call, expecting him to quit and move on. Instead, his wife (probably a toughy from Issan) goes public with the alleged call. Police go to the school and of course can't trace the call - because there wasn't one.

I read very strong words in Thai forums, people were quite upset that the guard was fired and promised not stop before the foreigner is fired too.

Originally Posted by Mid

Irish Teacher Breaks Silence On Skytrain Attack
Andrew Drummond
March 23 2012
TEACHER WAS NOT ATTACKED ONCE BUT FOUR TIMES - NEW STATEMENT

Attack one: Came after he kicked over a waste paper bin put his way to stop him after being pushed by a guard. Two more came along and laid into him.

Attack Two: Came after Behan, already bloodied, kicked one of them.

Attack Three: Came after just as he was about to board a train when a pack of guards laid into him and his friend with scanners causing injuried to both.

Attack Four: Came after he wiped blood off himself with a guard's tie.

andrew-drummond.com

It's clearly said, force was used each time AFTER the guy acted agressively toward the guards. Thinking that he can board the train and flee the scene without intervention from the security is a further proof that the guy was totally out of his mind. The only defense this guy can plead is temporary insanity.

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

The guy is wrong
Infront of his daughter swearing and acting agresively. Not a great role model.
By himself one thing but infront of his kid he should have backed down and got a taxi.

100% agree Further proof that this guy has no place in any learning institution and should be send back to where he comes from.

**BaitongBoy** · 31-03-2012, 11:30 AM

**taxexile** · 31-03-2012, 11:35 AM

paddy o'twat

Attack one: Came after he kicked over a waste paper bin put his way to stop him after being pushed by a guard. Two more came along and laid into him.

Attack Two: Came after Behan, already bloodied, kicked one of them.

Attack Four: Came after he wiped blood off himself with a guard's tie.

the gent

The Irishman showed great strength of character and is to be applauded for his actions. Many here have spent so long snivelling to the Thai they have quite forgotten what it is to be a man.

wake up man.

the irishman showed nothing but stupidity.

he has been here a while and knows how things work.
if bts so chooses, they could easily drum up damning false evidence against him, backed up by guards statements, to show he started the whole thing and initiated the violence. the courts would convict and he would lose his job or worse.

sometimes showing true character is not about making a noise, a scene to protest ones rights , but about knowing when to shut up, smile to yourself and get on with your life knowing you are far superior to the neanderthal scum that are hassling you and provoking you into the reaction they hope you will give, thereby giving them the excuse to steam in.

in a situation like this that is how to be the man, the englishman, the gentleman if you like. but of course this man is irish, and so we cant expect too much logic or sense from him, too much to expect him to be able to resolve the situation by deflating the balloons for the journey home and re-inflating them for his daughter once they were home

sinking to their level, scrapping in the gutter with them is low rent.

they like to think they are controlling you, but the reality is you need to be in firm control of yourself when out in the jungle. paddy lost control and from that moment on his was a lost cause, he was easy prey for the encircling vultures. they goaded him even more, like watching a pack of wolves circle and kill a sheep.

james bond would never have sunk as low as the hissy menstrual irishman.
kicking a trashcan ...... ooooh i'm so hard. i'll show them.

**BobR** · 31-03-2012, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by thegent

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick
Drummond is full of hot air on this and simply stoking the flames - not even Behan claimed he was attacked 4 times!

Why has the Farang prominently seen on the Video restraining Behan not come forward and given his story - he was there throughout the incident from start to finish. The fact he has not come out to publicly defend Behan says a lot in my opinion.

Patrick
I suggest you read the accounts, you moron.

Reading comments here is quite a useful object lesson in understanding why some folk end up in the blue collar, lower end.

Originally Posted by thegent

Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
The guy is wrong
Infront of his daughter swearing and acting agresively. Not a great role model.
By himself one thing but infront of his kid he should have backed down and got a taxi.
Standing up for oneself for some is quite instinctive whereas living on one's knees is more natural to others unhampered by any notion of self respect. I suspect your trousers must get worn out quite quickly.

The Irishman showed great strength of character and is to be applauded for his actions. Many here have spent so long snivelling to the Thai they have quite forgotten what it is to be a man.

Does using a keyboard to insult anyone whose opinion is different than yours make you feel like a big tough man?

**terry57** · 31-03-2012, 11:43 AM

Jesus, if one reads post 122 its not hard to figure out why the guards belted 7 shades of shit out of him.

Stupid Irish Fuk. Jeez.

**Seekingasylum** · 31-03-2012, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by BobR

Does using a keyboard to insult anyone whose opinion is different than yours make you feel like a big tough man?

No. Does it you?

**taxexile** · 31-03-2012, 12:06 PM

as in so many cases here in thailand, the thais know just which buttons to push to provoke westerners into actions which end up with the westerner humiliated, shamed and often in trouble with the police, and the thais grinning happily on the sideline with their hands out for compensation.

so who are the more stupid, the thais with their penchant for violence and sneaky monetary gain or the falangs for falling for their tricks and provocations nearly every time?

**kmart** · 31-03-2012, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by thegent

Reading comments here is quite a useful object lesson in understanding why some folk end up in the blue collar, lower end.

Quite the aristocrat aren't you? For someone so far up the food chain, you might think that your misanthropic rants against the hoi palloi might be a little beneath a gentleman of your distinguished bearing.

**chitown** · 31-03-2012, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by thegent

The Irishman showed great strength of character and is to be applauded for his actions. Many here have spent so long snivelling to the Thai they have quite forgotten what it is to be a man.

Have to green the gent on that point.

Really it would be nice if there was a farang advocacy group that could lobby for our rights - land ownership, citizenship if we wanted it, the racism, the cheating, the attacks, the corruption, the dual pricing etc.

**chitown** · 31-03-2012, 12:21 PM

Still we have an array of posters thinking it was OK for some security gangsters to beat a person for no reason. If you ever get beat like this guy anywhere in the world, please come back and tell us if you still feel it was justified.

**terry57** · 31-03-2012, 12:28 PM

Post 122 tells a different story and the Irishman admitting being a very silly boy in kicking the bin which in turn has kicked of the whole scenario. He has then retaliated which has further heightened the situation.

Very silly thing too do in Thailand and every Expat with an inclining of brain matter knows it.

He wont be a silly tosser next time when asked to simply comply with a BTS safety issue when asked too by Security monkeys just doing there job.

**taxexile** · 31-03-2012, 12:31 PM

If you ever get beat like this guy

stop exaggerating.

he only had a small band aid on his forehead. hardly a beating.

**chitown** · 31-03-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

If you ever get beat like this guy

stop exaggerating.

he only had a small band aid on his forehead. hardly a beating.

No exaggeration here. He had to get stitches on his head. He was hit in the head with a blunt instrument. A head strike can kill a person and he was stuck multiple times.

Kicking a trash can or dropping an F bomb does not justify a gang of Thais beating him.

**chitown** · 31-03-2012, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by terry57

He wont be a silly tosser next time when asked to simply comply with a BTS safety issue when asked too by Security monkeys just doing there job.

So in the future he should just drop to his knees and blow his Thai masters?

**taxexile** · 31-03-2012, 12:47 PM

the guards were perfectly within their rights to ask the passenger not to take the balloons on to the train. they may have been over zealous, they may have even been looking to initiate a problem.

the teacher, after 5 years in thailand, and with his daughter on his shoulder should never have lost his temper as he did, and from that second on he was greedily sucking the thai cock, he was putty in their hands, he was dead meat.

the uneducated poorly trained guards know no better than to resort to physical intimidation and violent response. but the educated worldly irishman should have known better, a lot better. he will have known how thais react, but he lost it, maybe only momentarily, but thats it all takes here, and so he brought it all down upon himself.

responding to their provocation is kowtowing. they win.

walking away from an unwinable confrontation is showing class. you win.

**Seekingasylum** · 31-03-2012, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

as in so many cases here in thailand, the thais know just which buttons to push to provoke westerners into actions which end up with the westerner humiliated, shamed and often in trouble with the police, and the thais grinning happily on the sideline with their hands out for compensation.

so who are the more stupid, the thais with their penchant for violence and sneaky monetary gain or the falangs for falling for their tricks and provocations nearly every time?

I rather think your thesis may have a cogency if it were applied to a race capable of cognitive thought but as it is we are in Thailand and dealing with the Thai so it has no currency whatsoever.

The scenario, as it played out, was a simple confrontation between an intelligent man of integrity, inculcated with the principles of logic and common decency, and the forces of stupidity, unreasonableness and thuggery. The suggestion that any Thai present was acting in some contrived manner as agent provocateur is quite ludicrous and not supported by the facts. Their reaction was hysterical, incoherent and ultimately rested on the default mechanism of most Thai when faced with conflict which was to employ violence. Mr.Behan acted with great restraint in the circumstances but still managed to assert himself in the face of the barbarians by achieving his aim in boarding the train. Any manipulation of the incident after the event detrimental to him is of course quite predictable and one expects nothing less from a people wholly lacking in principles.

I do tire of the constant refrain that farang who exercise discretion at every turn in their dealings with the Thai are somehow superior creatures who know how to conduct themselves and thereby are to be lauded as shining examples of mature sophistication.

That is a deceit and quite delusional. We do so because we are gutless cowards and rather than stand up for what we know to be right we slink away on our bellies so that we live to kowtow another day to whichever simian seeks to impose their whim.

Mr. Behan is a hero and should be lauded as such. Should I ever encounter the chap I will most certainly buy him a pint. The man puts many here to shame and I suspect most know their craven compliance with which they live their daily lives is simply born out of sheer, unadulterated funk.

**Perota** · 31-03-2012, 01:03 PM

I think some people have no respect for their kids. What was worst for this guy's daughter ? To give away her balloons ? I thing she actually tried to do it. Or to see her father involved in such an argument ? With an ice cream she will probably have forget the balloons in 5 mn. Now how that incident will affect her ? The real victim in this incident is the daughter. And the responsible is the father.

**Notnow** · 31-03-2012, 01:08 PM

I never knew that a dumpster could lose face, better remember it.

**Seekingasylum** · 31-03-2012, 01:14 PM

Perota, I rather think the girl will grow up proud in the knowledge her father is a man of some conviction. Nevertheless, she has also had a valuable object lesson in her early learning years in that she will henceforth know instinctively the average Thai male is potentially nothing more than a baboon dressed in clothes.

Mr Behan certainly killed two birds with one stone there.

**chitown** · 31-03-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by thegent

Perota, she will henceforth know instinctively the average Thai male is potentially nothing more than a baboon dressed in clothes.

Another Thai girl that will one day refuse to marry a Thai man and find herself a proper farang husband.

**good2bhappy** · 31-03-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by thegent

The scenario, as it played out, was a simple confrontation between an intelligent man of integrity, inculcated with the principles of logic and common decency, and the forces of stupidity, unreasonableness and thuggery.

cut back on the medication old boy

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