Thread: Big Fire on Asoke

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by Jon Snow

Originally Posted by thegent

They have to be the most irresponsible, stupid people in the hemisphere.

I would give that particular accolade to the Philippines. The Thai are light years ahead of them, so you can imagine.

There is a strong and natural urge to agree with these sentiments, until we look back a short time to the case in the UK were a man is laying face down in a 3ft deep pond while Police, Firemen, Para-medics and a wide variety of others stand around arguing over health and safety concerns; reviewing union regulations, and doing everything possible to avoid an intervention which may possibly have saved the guys life.
(discussed at some length on this board)

Thailand and The Philippines may be in serious danger of losing their status....

Yes, but the UK is not in the southern hemisphere.

Originally Posted by thegent

Is anyone surprised the responsible fire officer in charge actually waited to get permission from the building's owner before forcing entry? .

Most power cables are still overground, suspended unevenly and dangerously from posts whose heights are only uniform in their disparity .

They have to be the most irresponsible, stupid people in the hemisphere.

Cant argue with the Gents Assessment of just how brain dead the Thai system is and it really makes the mind boggle just how the country actually manages to keep going considering its full of bolliks and fuk ups.

In most civilized countries Firefighters will enter a burning building anyway they deem fit in order to initially perform rescue of the public, protect the building from further damage and minimize the risk to themselves by bringing the crisis under control in the quickest time possible.

The longer decisions are not made to get to the seat of the fire the spread of fire accelerates quickly placing the risk to life and property at ever increasing peril.

We are protected by law to enter a building by force if the need arises and answer to ourselves only. To think an experienced Fire Officer in Thailand would actually consider delaying an entry because he feels he needs to gain permission from the owner only reinforces the insanity of there rational. The worlds population would have a hard time getting there head around that one.

As far as Fire Fighting ladder platforms go the rule of thumb is 7 meters away from the closest power line unless its high voltage and then its don't go near it unless the power is eliminated. Water and electricity are powerful bed partners and need's to be respected especially when one is suspended 30 meters above the ground by a harness only.

Actually 30 meter Fire ladders are considered baby's these days and the largest ladders now top out at 120 meters. These are massive and beyond most Firefighters abilities to handle true heights. Mostly manned by crack dedicated high rise firefighting professional personal who ride these machines full time specializing in there art.

Take into consider jet reaction and the movement at the top of the Ladder which is accelerated with height when water is being supplied to the top of the ladder one gets an idea just how frightening it would be suspended 120 meters in the air in a tiny cage with a harness as a security blanket.


Thai firefighters are up against it considering the pure amount of power lines danging from every power pole and there belief that safety standards are not really necessary ( thongs, T shirts and other shit ) but I suppose they don't give a fuk as they have a shit load of Tattoos and an amulet to protect them.

Fok me EH.

A few years ago (quite a few I guess), I saw Apriak (then governor of Bangkok) on a panel discussion at the FCCT. The topic was property development and the new city zoning law under consideration. He did the usual job of saying how great Bangkok was and how the city was carefully planning for the future. One of the other panellists, the CEO of Golden Land Development - and Indian guy or Indian-Thai maybe - pointed out that Thailand had light years to go to become a world-class city. He gave several other examples of cities that had greened urban areas, created seawalls for walking and riverside cycle trails, etc. He then said that Bangkok's main pride-and-joy Sukhumvit was a pedestrian hazard - a city that couldn't even pave the sidewalks so people could "walk" on them without tripping. At that point Apirak left before the Q and A. In the land of the blind...

Originally Posted by koman

There is a strong and natural urge to agree with these sentiments, until we look back a short time to the case in the UK were a man is laying face down in a 3ft deep pond while Police, Firemen, Para-medics and a wide variety of others stand around arguing over health and safety concerns; reviewing union regulations, and doing everything possible to avoid an intervention which may possibly have saved the guys life.
(discussed at some length on this board)

Thailand and The Philippines may be in serious danger of losing their status....

I see your quoting the highly inaccurate piece from the mail again. We are million miles away from these muppets, and shall never be any way near their level of incompetence.



Here I am (in the cage) last week dealing with a mill fire over 5 storeys. There was an electric sub station in the basement, signs of possible collapse, and lots of residential buildings near by. So, by your idea of the UK services, we would have stood back and watch it burn, and to hell with everyone else who may be in danger.
Did H&S play a role in the successful conclusion to this fire? You bet it did. Local residents were evacuated to a place of safety, the substation was isolated, and firefighters committed into the risk area. As a result of risk assessment, H&S, and a professional attitude, the fire was contained to two floors, it was put out in under 4 hours, and not one person was injured.

Stop reading these bullshit "news" papers, and believing what they print.

Originally Posted by Jon Snow

Originally Posted by thegent

They have to be the most irresponsible, stupid people in the hemisphere.

I would give that particular accolade to the Philippines. The Thai are light years ahead of them, so you can imagine.

I'd trust a Flip sparky well before I'd trust a Thai one.

Not least because if you speak English, there's a fighting chance they might understand you, and not just nod when they don't understand a fucking word.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by thegent

They have to be the most irresponsible, stupid people in the hemisphere.

they are simply cute little monkeys, and that's how you should take them, stop projecting yourself or your "kind" through them, it's pointless

theGents is going through a bad time recently, so has taken to ranting against the Thais at any opportunity, as if it will do any good or change anything

It is a sad fact that the system is a mess and lack of money to fix it not available

training of firemen is poor, equipment is not up to the job, etc etc

ranting against the Thais as a whole does nothing except make you look a fool for living here

Fire-ravaged city building declared a no-go zone | Bangkok Post: news

Fire-ravaged city building declared a no-go zone

• Published: 5/03/2012 at 03:38 AM
• Newspaper section: News

Wattana district office has banned people entering fire-ravaged Fico Place building on Asok Road.

Sajja Khontrong, chief of Wattana district, said an order was released Sunday informing the owner that the use of the building is prohibited until inspection of the damaged structure is concluded.

A team of certified engineers and experts will conduct the inspection. It is unclear when they will finish their work.

• EDITORIAL: Timely reminder of high dangers

Mr Sajja said the 13-storey building, which rented space to 30 company offices, will be off-limits to unauthorised people.

He warned that violators of the ban face up to six months in jail and may be fined 30,000 baht.

A huge fire started on the seventh floor about 2.30pm on Saturday. It spread and consumed the upper floors as narrow streets and power lines impeded firefighters.

The blaze was brought under control two hours later.

No one was injured. The cause of the blaze has not been determined. Electrical wiring on the seventh floor was recently replaced, an initial police report said.

At 7.30am yesterday, the fire re-ignited on the ninth and eleventh floors. It was quickly extinguished.

The first official inspection team joined by the police, engineers and Thirachon Manomaipibul, deputy Bangkok governor for civil engineering, checked the damaged building yesterday.

Mr Thirachon said the impact of the fire on the building structure was minimal.

However, the floors were full of water from the dousing operation. Much of the interior was covered in ash.

The fire had spread rapidly partly because the glass interior had tinted films on them, which were inflammable.

The 33-year-old Fico Place was constructed before the Building Safety Control Act 1992 was enacted requiring installation of adequate water sprinklers.

He said City Hall will survey older buildings in the city to see if they are equipped with the sprinkler system.

City Hall might draft legal requirements for every older building in Bangkok to make them comply with the 1992 act.

Pol Col Rattasak Raksalam, chief of Thong Lor police station, said the building owner and tenants will be called to give statements.

They will be asked to provide details of the damage to their property and offices.

Forensic scientists will establish the cause of the fire.

Theerathat Kongchan, director of human resources at Fico Place, said the building suffered substantial damage inside.

Documents about companies with offices in the building were lost in the fire.