Thread: Thousands to occupy Wall Street in protest

Originally Posted by misskit

The police in London have listed the Occupy movement as a terrorist organization next to FARC, Al Qeada, and the Belarussian terrorists.

This means being a protester make one a terrorist?

Sounds like something Americans would do.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-incl...ror’-list.html

They have (apparently) taken over a building to which they have no right, legally or otherwise. It seems they are planning to expand this kind of activity. If you were the London Metro police, what would you do......just ignore it?

Terrorism is a catch-all these days. They are being placed on a "watch list" If they attempt to escalate their activites to include anything that would fit into the anti=terrorism mandates.....treat them accordingly. Otherwise just kick their sorry asses out of the buildings and let them go and "demonstrate" at Hyde Park like all the other fringe elements and misfits have been doing for generations.

The UK has property rights too. It's not an American exclusive.....
Nobody has a "right" to move into someones elses property, however silly they might think it is to have it vacant. Under common law, if you don't attempt to evict such occupancy, then you risk evoking squatters rights.

This is just more provocation. They are demanding confrontation so they can get their UTube moment broadcast as evidence of police brutality and oppression of their rights, while ignoring everybody elses rights.

When will this extension of the word terrorist (with its associated powers and abuse of said powers) stop???

When we are all either silent or in jail.

Originally Posted by Neo

When will this extension of the word terrorist (with its associated powers and abuse of said powers) stop???

When we are all either silent or in jail.

That's right!

As CSNY said so elequently: "Step Outa Line & The Man Will Come And Take You Away"

Says it all really...

San Francisco police shut down 'Occupy' camp

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americ...613901402.html

Scores detained as police dismantle tents and confiscate belongings in overnight raid on two-month encampment.

Last Modified: 08 Dec 2011 04:56

San Francisco police have arrested 85 "Occupy" protesters after dismantling an encamptment they had built in an overnight raid.

The raid began before daybreak on Wednesday, when dozens of police cars, fire engines and ambulances surrounded the campsite at Justin Herman Plaza and blocked off the area. City officials previously declared the site, near the Californian city's financial district, a risk to public health.

Police didn't immediately say how many people were in the plaza at the time, but campers put the estimate at 150.

"Most of the protesters went peacefully," but one officer received minor injuries when two people threw a chair that cracked his face shield, said officer Albie Esparza. They were arrested on suspicion of assault.

Dozens of others were arrested for illegal lodging in the plaza and failure to disperse.

Esparza said about 15 people arrested on charges ranging from resisting arrest to assault with a deadly weapon were still in custody.

Jack Martin, a protester based in the camp, said he was trying to leave the plaza when he was zip-tied, taken to a police station, charged and released.

Officers trashed his tent and personal belongings, he said.

Richard Kriedler, an Occupy SF organiser, said some protesters were injured, but offered no details.

"This is a very emotional town. We have anarchists, we have very emotional people that this is not going to go over well with, and this could have been handled a lot better," he said.

The protesters had been camped in Justin Herman Plaze for two months.


Alternative campsite

In a statement, Ed Lee, San Francisco's mayor, said the city had taken a "measured and balanced approach", including making an alternate site available to protesters.

That site - an abandoned school - included a parking lot where the protesters could maintain their encampment, a classroom for meetings and two bathrooms.

The city had taken out a six-month lease on the property and offered to send city trucks to help the occupiers move to the new location. It had given the protesters until December 1 comply.

The movement against economic disparity and corporate greed began with Occupy Wall Street in New York almost three months ago, and police have removed Occupy demonstrators there and in a number of other cities.

In some cases, police used pepper spray and tear gas to get protesters to leave the camps, which many cities declared health hazards and accused of interfering with local businesses.

Alternative campsite

In a statement, Ed Lee, San Francisco's mayor, said the city had taken a "measured and balanced approach", including making an alternate site available to protesters.

That site - an abandoned school - included a parking lot where the protesters could maintain their encampment, a classroom for meetings and two bathrooms.

The city had taken out a six-month lease on the property and offered to send city trucks to help the occupiers move to the new location. It had given the protesters until December 1 comply.

Sounds very reasonable. How far out of town is it?

^
One would hope far enough out so the stench of urine, feces & BO does not affect regular folks...

^ Well said, and I feel a speech like that can only now be accepted because of the awareness created by the OWS movement.

Much more pragmatic now: the banksters created the "money" loaned for mortgages out of thin air, loaned it out at compounding interest, engineered a housing bubble & subsequent crash, engineered the controlled demolition of the economy, and now the endgame: foreclose on America, taking legal ownership of all the property.



The Evolution of Revolution: Occupy Your Home


Friday, 09 December 2011 10:44

'This week Occupy Wall Street has taken an interesting turn that pushes the movement in a whole new direction. Most of the original camps may have been disbanded, but it is becoming apparent that this was a blessing in disguise. If anything, the establishment should consider those original encampments a warning shot, because they were only the first phase in this new American Revolution.

After being treated like animals by militarized police for exercising their right to free speech, many of the protesters are learning that begging and pleading with this kind of corrupt organization is not going to get them anywhere. But I guess there’s nothing wrong with asking nicely first, right? That surely would be the respectable thing to do, so we can definitely understand everyone wanting to play nice at first.

However, playing nice and “working within the system” all comes to an end when the politicians are just laughing while they send in their goons to violently attack you.The only way that “we the people” will truly win this revolution is if we take matters into our own hands in a series of small battles where we call the enemies bluff every time they attempt to assert their illegitimate authority.'

Read more: The Evolution of Revolution: Occupy Your Home

#OCCUPYFAIL: #Occupy Raleigh Protester Shoots Up Food Store… Injures 3 People… Then Shoots Himself in Barn.

#OCCUPYFAIL: “Occupy Harvard” Left Vacant — This is What Anarchy Looks Like.

#OCCUPYFAIL: Neighbors: Occupy Protesters Took Evicted Man’s Belongings.

Wednesday morning, neighbors said they saw two Occupy Iowa protesters moving a mattress across the street and that set off a fiery exchange between neighbors and protesters.
“Them Occupy Iowa people, two of the men came over and took this TV and put it on a flatbed. They got over there and was wheeling it across the street. I told them, ‘How dare you come over here and take this 65-year-old man’s (belongings) who has been put out,’” said the neighbor.
Neighbors said the TV, other furniture and items belong to a man evicted from an apartment near Stewart Park Square where the Occupy Iowa camp is located.

Well, that’s consistent with the core #Occupy message — you’ve got it, I want it, I’ll take it!

I'm thinking that we should start a TD movement: Occupy Boon Me.

We send in Papillion and Socal for the first wave, then see what BM has got left after that...

Don't worry about Boonme. His life is almost over and he's living off table scraps. Let him be.

^&^^
Heh, you comedians got anything positive to say re the Dead Movement Walking?

What the Republicans?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^&^^
Heh, you comedians got anything positive to say re the Dead Movement Walking?

I watched 'an inside job' yesterday; have you seen it, mate?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I'm thinking that we should start a TD movement: Occupy Boon Me.

Imagining for the moment that Boxer's not an agitprop shill- then he'd be a textbook case of one who's passed....

THE POINT OF NO RETURN

Dictators do not appear overnight. They must gradually assume more and more power over time so that the population does not realize what is going on, or does not feel it is worthwhile to object. But to maintain control, dictators "seduce" their population into greater and greater atrocities, over time. There is more than simply acclimating the population involved to the dictator's agenda. By tricking the population into acceptance of greater and greater atrocities, the dictator will eventually reach a position where the people will be too afraid to examine what they themselves have become. Trapped by the fear of examining themselves, such people turn into the most fanatical of the dictator's supporters. They dare not look at the dictator's evil for to do so is to look at their own. Once the dictator can trick his people past that point, they are his slaves. Hitler used this tactic. So did Stalin.

The people of the United States stand at that point right now. That the US Government is using torture on POWs (just as Hitler did) is beyond argument. One can either stand up and denounce that torture and demand the firing of all who took part in it (and the end of the war), or one is by default complicit, an accessory after the fact, seen by all to condone such barbarism.

Anyone who steps across that line is trapped. Unable to look at what they themselves have become they will refuse to look at what the government has become, indeed will create or accept any justification, no matter how thin and transparent, rather than question that government. And indeed this web site gets email from people who have already crossed that point, and are trying to explain why torture is really necessary "this time".

So, you are down to a choice. There is no more being neutral, or sitting on the fence. As Bush himself said, you are either with him or against him, and unless you are actively against him and his war machine, then he wins by default. Unless you stop them now, sooner or later, Bush and the NeoCons will succeed in turning this nation into the 21st century version of Nazi Germany, powered by fanatics so afraid to look in a mirror that they will inflict any pain on any people, rather than do so.

Time to decide.