Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wyoming gets as much as 200 inches of snow a year in places.

Not to mention that most of it is over 5000+ feet above sea level. Tends to snow a lot in a place like that in fact last time I drove through it was a September and guess what it was snowing.

Lets be quick to point out though that throughout most of the rest of the country it has been a record hot summer.

So 97% of the scientific community are in agreement that we are facing a global environmental crisis.

So why aren't the United Nations, the leaders of the civilized world and the USA federal goverment in particular doing something to counteract and stem the damage being done to the planet by the petro/plastic world economies?
Why aren't more zero emmission mandates being proposed instead of being repealed?
Why isn't petrol and plastic rationing being proposed?
Why aren't renewable resources like bamboo, hemp, cotton taking the place of petro/plastic products?

These are questions precious few are asking or even aware of.

The media isn't asking them becuase they are owned.
Governments aren't asking them because they are owned.
The education system isn't asking because they are owned.
Most people aren't asking because they too are owned by a petro/plastic banking cabal bent on greed and global domination.

It is time for people to start asking these uncomfortable and inconveneint questions, regardless if it means petrol rationing, zero emmission mandates, and a few less hamburgers. No more fat subsidies for the meat industry which is also raping the planet.

If you've ever done a postgrad in environment-related studies, or have worked with such people for a significant amount of time, you will come to notice that it's not in the interests of a typical PhD student or early-career researcher to go off-message. You have to put the same reworded para at the start of every paper, if you want to progress or have a career. It's all very well going on about "big oil", but it's not that common to see oil money directly going into academia. I know a prof whos got several million for a bp-related project, but this has to go through so many filters, and i can't see any sign that the output is influenced at all, the work people are doing and the papers have the same first paras, and O&G companies want that association for their csr scorecard. This fantasy the likes of bsnub (I've lost track of who amongst you is pro or against actually) has is just not borne out by evidence or experience - there's too much scrutiny - academic careers are precarious and people tend to follow the herd to pay their mortgage - "big academia" is more accurate, really. Yes they want money, but they can't afford to lose reputation by selling out to companies that the eco-mob want to make pariahs, because they need to maintain government support via the voters.

Honestly, you lot... just try an experiment - replace the "evil energy and plastics and industrial military complex" stuff from your little tirades and replace it with something utterly different, and re-read what you've written, and tell me it's not hysterical, paranoid, and silly. It sounds like a lurch to extremism because nobody really agrees with you... reminds me of how the Labour Momentum mob behave.





Maybe this is just a thing that Americans are susceptible too - I appreciate their education system and media is pretty mediocre by British standards.

Or maybe you too are falling for the oil company nonsense.

After all, that's why they spend millions:

To try and influence public and opinion and block any legislation that lets them drill, frack, burn and pollute whatever the fuck they want to, without any worries about the consequences to the environment and to people.

No. 1: ExxonMobil | Mother Jones

Meanwhile somboon thinks his allotment is saving the planet.