Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

I just realized that looking at the posts of some of the pro global warming individuals here that they are full time posters. There job, their career is posting about global warming scare threats, and they have been assigned the teakdoor.com and maybe a few others as their full time job. The scale of resources, links, time available to them is mindboggling in comparison to most, they probably sit in an office or offsite linked to some hard core green organization and all day make up extreme left wing propaganda and post it. This must be apparent to all, the size and scope of the data at there fingertips is not simple coincidence, these are professionals and if their targeting readership at teakdoor.com how large are the organizations they work for?

So I wanted to draw some comparisons. Articles in Climatedepot.com and linked sites can flesh out this point very interestingly. One a few weeks ago about how the EU funds green organizations 20 to 60 per of their yearly budgets and how they've been ordered to campaign against brexit demonstrates how their actually part of the left establishement not independent. They take orders directly from the EU govt and what they do is not green but the bidding of the EU central govt. In the US under Obummer the yearly budget of climate studies in universities has grown from about 200 mill a year to over 2.3 billion. Now some will say the importance of climate studies justifies this, on the other hand increasing budgets 13 times shows how the demo/greens have tried to completely corrupt this small part of the scientific establishement. President Eisenhower made a famous speech where he warned about dangers of the military industrial complex. I want to warn you about the dangers of the Left wing/green/corrupted climate studies complex.
A further example of this in a more recent story there tells how a group of climate scientists were pushing using the Rico act against evil climate deniers. The same evil climate deniers did a small look at those climate scientists who were largely centered on George mason university. And what did they discover OMG the leader of this push had a 60 mill contract for climate studies paying only him and his scientific staff [wife and daughter] totally against his universities and govt financing laws. And now its they who are being investigations for illegal acts. The university tried to block a FOIA request to open up the investigation but the judge allowed it.

Some of the important recent scientific papers published has been on the positive effects of co2 hitting 400ppm. The earth has been greening, for ex the sahara desert has shrunk 10 percent, earthwide plant life has been exploding. All in the face of never ending Green scare tactics. This is clearly demonstrated in the worlds growing food production in the face of never ending green scare tactics and attempts to demonize gmo and pesticides.

Further stories came out of Canada where a joint university of Ottawa and Carleton study of sediments in arctic lakes revealed 3000 years ago the temp there was 8 degrees warmer then now. Those cave men must of been pretty flatulent to cause that.
A further paper came out of U Victoria this spring and printed in Nature meaning it made the big time and was scientifically valid and of the first order. It showed how the earths temperature has not risen in the last 15 years. Whats more aside from the Canadian lead scientists heading this others were listed as co authors and who were they? Non other then Michael Mann and Santer from Lawrence Livermore. Mann a co author on a scientific article disproving global warming is interesting and very telling.
Whats telling about the Canadian papers is there outside the the US corruption of funding and show such different results.

The articles posted on Climatedepot.com are very revealing judge for yourself.

Originally Posted by pulvarien

I just realized that looking at the posts of some of the pro global warming individuals here that they are full time posters. There job, their career is posting about global warming scare threats, and they have been assigned the teakdoor.com and maybe a few others as their full time job. The scale of resources, links, time available to them is mindboggling in comparison to most, they probably sit in an office or offsite linked to some hard core green organization and all day make up extreme left wing propaganda and post it. This must be apparent to all, the size and scope of the data at there fingertips is not simple coincidence, these are professionals and if their targeting readership at teakdoor.com how large are the organizations they work for?

You're deranged.

So I wanted to draw some comparisons. Articles in Climatedepot.com and linked sites can flesh out this point very interestingly. One a few weeks ago about how the EU funds green organizations 20 to 60 per of their yearly budgets and how they've been ordered to campaign against brexit demonstrates how their actually part of the left establishement not independent. They take orders directly from the EU govt and what they do is not green but the bidding of the EU central govt. In the US under Obummer the yearly budget of climate studies in universities has grown from about 200 mill a year to over 2.3 billion. Now some will say the importance of climate studies justifies this, on the other hand increasing budgets 13 times shows how the demo/greens have tried to completely corrupt this small part of the scientific establishement. President Eisenhower made a famous speech where he warned about dangers of the military industrial complex. I want to warn you about the dangers of the Left wing/green/corrupted climate studies complex.
A further example of this in a more recent story there tells how a group of climate scientists were pushing using the Rico act against evil climate deniers. The same evil climate deniers did a small look at those climate scientists who were largely centered on George mason university. And what did they discover OMG the leader of this push had a 60 mill contract for climate studies paying only him and his scientific staff [wife and daughter] totally against his universities and govt financing laws. And now its they who are being investigations for illegal acts. The university tried to block a FOIA request to open up the investigation but the judge allowed it.

Some of the important recent scientific papers published has been on the positive effects of co2 hitting 400ppm. The earth has been greening, for ex the sahara desert has shrunk 10 percent, earthwide plant life has been exploding. All in the face of never ending Green scare tactics. This is clearly demonstrated in the worlds growing food production in the face of never ending green scare tactics and attempts to demonize gmo and pesticides.

Further stories came out of Canada where a joint university of Ottawa and Carleton study of sediments in arctic lakes revealed 3000 years ago the temp there was 8 degrees warmer then now. Those cave men must of been pretty flatulent to cause that.
A further paper came out of U Victoria this spring and printed in Nature meaning it made the big time and was scientifically valid and of the first order. It showed how the earths temperature has not risen in the last 15 years. Whats more aside from the Canadian lead scientists heading this others were listed as co authors and who were they? Non other then Michael Mann and Santer from Lawrence Livermore. Mann a co author on a scientific article disproving global warming is interesting and very telling.
Whats telling about the Canadian papers is there outside the the US corruption of funding and show such different results.

The articles posted on Climatedepot.com are very revealing judge for yourself.

And you're an idiot.

It takes about two minutes to find out that the wanker that runs climatedepot.com is a right wing talking head with no scientific credentials whatsoever, and virtually every single piece of shit that he has put out has been debunked.

Further, not only does he take money from ExxonMobil and Chevron, but he's a poster boy for the Heartland Institute... yes, our friends the Koch Brothers have an interest too.

Before you start spouting off shite, you really out to check both the credentials of the people in whom you are placing faith as well as the veracity of the bullshit they put out for gullible people like yourself.

If you are possibly interested in learning how these charlatans are trying to pull the wool over your eyes, I'd recommend listening to this audiobook (or reading it):

https://kat.cr/merchants-of-doubt-ho...-t5211841.html


Now run along and do your homework before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

Originally Posted by pulvarien

I just realized that looking at the posts of some of the pro global warming individuals here that they are full time posters. There job, their career is posting about global warming scare threats, and they have been assigned the teakdoor.com and maybe a few others as their full time job.

Surely, you jest.

Originally Posted by pulvarien

I just realized that looking at the posts of some of the pro global warming individuals here that they are full time posters. There job, their career is posting about global warming scare threats, and they have been assigned the teakdoor.com and maybe a few others as their full time job

Annnnnd there it is!

Originally Posted by pulvarien

The articles posted on Climatedepot.com are very revealing judge for yourself.

I judge them to be typical mis/dis-information from an industry shill.

I mentioned that ive seen no global warming during the 31 years of global warming crisis. There answer was how can you expect to see any global warming its only been 30 years you fool. Anyone with a memory knows that they have been saying over and over we have only 5 years left we must act now, repeated endlessly. Notice how they have changed the pattern of what they had been repeatein g for 25 years to now you cant expect to notice anything in only 30 years. Doesn't that mean they were just lying to us for 25 years?
So what do they want? Surrender to us, vote us in, give us all the power, let us change the political system to what we want, we will make you poorer and much less in control of your life but maybe in 30 more years you might notice something, or not!
Another example of their pattern of chain misinformation scare stories repeated endlessly is the good old warhorse, all the reefs of the world are bleaching and dying out forever theme. How many times have we heard this one? Werent they absolutely right each of the other times? All the worlds scientists backed them up 100 percent each time didn't they? it must of been an act of god that the reefs actually recovered each time! But I promise you this time is different! If you look around you will see that its not 100 per of the worlds scientists disagreeing, its just a scare story.
Anyway its up to you all not me, I'm 1 against the army of religious green socialists, climatedepot.com.

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by pulvarien

I just realized that looking at the posts of some of the pro global warming individuals here that they are full time posters. There job, their career is posting about global warming scare threats, and they have been assigned the teakdoor.com and maybe a few others as their full time job.

Surely, you jest.

Too funny... a dying breed no less

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Before you start spouting off shite, you really out to check both the credentials of the people in whom you are placing faith as well as the veracity of the bullshit they put out for gullible people like yourself.

He could, but he won't, because take away the mantra of white corporate power and his whole world view comes tumbling down, he's been taught to be ignorant and selfish and nobody's going to tell him otherwise.

Originally Posted by Neo

pulvarien

Any idea who he was in a previous life? I am not very good at detecting that.

Originally Posted by pulvarien

I mentioned that ive seen no global warming during the 31 years of global warming crisis.

Well fuck me sideways, you opinion obviously overrules all the science then, doesn't it?

Are you one of these planks that says because it still snows in winter that it can't be warming up?

Do you actually understand the difference between weather and climate?

Did you even start the audiobook I kindly linked for you?

Originally Posted by pulvarien

I mentioned that ive seen no global warming during the 31 years of global warming crisis.

Oh well that's that then. Science resoundingly put in its place by some punter and his 31 years of observations.

Have you ever seen oxygen? Nope, doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by Neo

pulvarien

Any idea who he was in a previous life? I am not very good at detecting that.

No idea. A good guess at the profile though.

White, 50+, overweight, Conservative/Republican, gun owner...

Glaciers melting has been a recurring scare story lets look at a few articles in climate depot.com.

Id like to start with one from a few years ago and a melting Italian glacier revealed omg a roman stone bridge. Did the romans really tunnel under glaciers to build stone bridges deep under them? did they build stone bridges anywhere near glaciers? No so obviously the glaciers were much higher above the stone bridge meaning 2000 or so years ago this glacier was thousands of feet higher/smaller then it is now. Furthermore this stone bridge and the road it was on led to a now cleared pass from Italy to Switzerland that hasn't been in use for 2000 years but had 2000 year old human litter on it. How in the world was any of this possible unless it was much much warmer 2000 years ago. Further this would explain how Hannibal made the impossible march with elephants across the alps to invade Italy, it was simply much warmer then and wasn't an impossible march then as it would be now with our much colder temperatures now.

Next id like to mention an article on Captain Cook who mapped much of the world. One thing he did map on the west coast of Canada was a glacier and when you contrast where he marked the glaciers ending in the 1700s and now is shocking. It reveals that between then and now the glacier has retreated miles. The picture that warmunists like to use if from the 1930s to emphasize the glacial loss even tho that's over 50 years before when they claim global warming even began. A simple contrast of where the glacier was in Captain Cooks time and that picture reveals that over 90 per of loss was between sometime in the 1700s and 1930 and that an unknown percent happened between the 1930s and 1985 and that a small amount happened after that.

Man there steaming at me now. This kind of information is not allowed to be shown to the general public! Only the information from the green paid off scientists is allowed, no discussion is allowed, all opposition must be silenced. Isnt it puzzling how different opinions between mathematicians, physicists is allowed even encouraged on the search for the truth, but in climate science its not and all others must be insulted as idiots and silenced. Surely any reasonable person must hear the sirens go off every time they try to silence differing views and slander them.

Anyway lets now mention the grace satellite study done in the early 2000s. It was a satellite measurement of the ice volume all over the world and they announced its was roughly the same with no change at all over the last 20 30 years. Oh no this must not be allowed past the Khmer green sensors.

Lets now mention the panic over the melting of the Himalayan glaciers going to turn northern india into a desert. This panicked india because over 500 million depend on the Himalayas for there water supply. India then initiated their own study and lo and behold found nothing. They went to the UN to ask the IPCC where they went wrong and what the IPCC knew that they didn't. The un answered that they were to busy to talk to the indian scientists. Now india isn't an insignificant country and refused to take no for an answer and demanded and got the documents. What was revealed was that an IPCC member interviewed an indian scientist who wanted a un job. He stated that in his opinion the glaciers would disappear bye 2300 in odfer to ingratiate himself with them. The ipcc member changed 2300 to 2030 and thus we had an immediate crisis created. Oh how we love the IPCCs gold standard of scientists. Notice how any mention of this crisis has faded since the truth was revealed. Notice how the ipcc fakes info, this is actually the standard of science among the warmunists.

Well I'm anxiously awaiting the next wave of insults, naughty pictures and potty mouth comments they throw my way. Climatedepot.com

Originally Posted by pulvarien

Glaciers melting has been a recurring scare story lets look at a few articles in climate depot.com.

Let's not.

We've already established that it's as fucking full of shit as you are.

Originally Posted by pulvarien

lets look at a few articles in climate depot.com

Do they have any on there on the topic of 'Confirmation Bias'?

There's an excellent documentary called "Greedy Lying Bastards" if you can get hold of it.

Exposes all the links between these deniers and their corporate backers.

Greedy Lying Bastards Official Film Website

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

There's an excellent documentary called "Greedy Lying Bastards" if you can get hold of it.

Exposes all the links between these deniers and their corporate backers.

An excellent documentary written by a lawyer, activist not a climate scientist. You rant on every time someone posts something opposing the main stream thought on man made global warming and then make a post to a documentary written and produced by a non warming scientist, can we say hypocrite.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

An excellent documentary written by a lawyer, activist not a climate scientist. You rant on every time someone posts something opposing the main stream thought on man made global warming and then make a post to a documentary written and produced by a non warming scientist, can we say hypocrite.

One has to give you this. Whenever we think you have reached a level of idiocy that cannot be topped, you prove us wrong.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by RPETER65

An excellent documentary written by a lawyer, activist not a climate scientist. You rant on every time someone posts something opposing the main stream thought on man made global warming and then make a post to a documentary written and produced by a non warming scientist, can we say hypocrite.

One has to give you this. Whenever we think you have reached a level of idiocy that cannot be topped, you prove us wrong.

His stupidity is mind numbing.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by RPETER65

An excellent documentary written by a lawyer, activist not a climate scientist. You rant on every time someone posts something opposing the main stream thought on man made global warming and then make a post to a documentary written and produced by a non warming scientist, can we say hypocrite.

One has to give you this. Whenever we think you have reached a level of idiocy that cannot be topped, you prove us wrong.

Typical libtard word salad.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Typical libtard word salad.

Translation: you've used to many multi-syllable words, Repeater doesn't understand.

I'm actually starting to think that Repeater might be a George Soros-funded plant in order to make right-wing, God 'n Guns lovin', people look bad. It's working.

See, nobody can be that utterly dim-witted with out actually trying. Surely??

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

See, nobody can be that utterly dim-witted with out actually trying. Surely??

Well actually I don't think he is trying. That's the tragic thing.