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    Perry has to support the creation of Greater Israel. His die-hard Christianist supporters are emphatic about that. It's where all the Jews have to go before we get to the End Times. Praise the Lawd.

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    I didn’t think I would be posting on this thread again because of what the “GOP God” said,.

    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    he has spoken,...............

    Rush: Texas Dream Act an albatross around Rick Perry’s neck

    But this article deserves a mention.

    "Two top Perry aides gave false testimony under oath in campaign case"

    So it begins. Rick Perry may be a fundamentalist Christian (of the New Apostolic Reformation variety), and eager executioner, and possible ground-breaking Republican candidate — but by all accounts he also deeply corrupt, a crony of the first water.

    So this one could have legs. As the article notes, the aides involved are Deidre Delisi and David Carney. The former is a former chief of staff and current senior policy advisor; the later is a long-time strategist. (That's Deidre Delisi pictured in the linked story.)

    Murray Waas and Peter Henderson, writing in Reuters (my emphasis):
    In a civil suit later filed by Chris Bell, Perry's Democratic challenger in that race, the testimony of aides David Carney and Deirdre Delisi was directly contradicted by a sworn statement from Perry's own gubernatorial campaign committee.

    At issue were the circumstances surrounding a $1 million contribution to the campaign, and whether the Republican Governors' Association, which paid out the funds, was used as a conduit to camouflage their true origin. The lawsuit alleged that the actual donor was Texas multi-millionaire Bob Perry, a long-time supporter of Rick Perry (no relation) better known for bankrolling the Swift Boat campaign that torpedoed Senator John Kerry's presidential bid.

    Carney has long been the Texas governor's closest political strategist. Delisi was formerly Governor Perry's chief of staff and now serves as a senior policy advisor to his presidential campaign.

    The current Perry campaign won't comment, and for an interesting reason. That earlier case was settled out of court, note the authors, in "a 2010 settlement, which required Perry to pay $427,000 to Bell's campaign, [and] barred either side from saying anything further."

    So the original case was possibly corrupt to begin with (unless Perry settled and was innocent), and now we find his top aides could well have lied in giving testimony. There's certainly enough prima facie evidence to warrant an investigation.

    The story is beautifully researched, and has all the mustered details we associate with the excellent Murray Waas. Please do read.

    Dead in the water: US Politics | AMERICAblog News: "Two top Perry aides gave false testimony under oath in campaign case"
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    I didn’t think I would be posting on this thread again because of what the “GOP God” said,.
    He does kind of resemble one of those roly-poly Chinese Buddhas. Why are so many Republican pundits such gross fat-asses? Rush, Roger Ailes, Jonah Goldberg, Ross Douthat etc. Is a large part the deep-seated resentment that is their prime motivator maybe based on difficulties they have getting laid?

    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    So it begins. Rick Perry may be a fundamentalist Christian (of the New Apostolic Reformation variety), and eager executioner, and possible ground-breaking Republican candidate — but by all accounts he also deeply corrupt, a crony of the first water.
    The thing I find so striking is how if you look at the record of donations rewarded with contracts, legislation, etc. it is clear that Perry makes little or no effort to disguise the fact that he is a whore.

    I also found curious his response to Chris Christie possibly running, something along the lines of how he is looking forward to visiting New Jersey to poach jobs for Texas. In other words, fuck you, NJ, and your governor. Par for the course for the party of "fuck you" I suppose, but again, it is the way he is so up front about it that is kind of odd. Or maybe he's just stupid.
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    ^There is an old interview clip which was not aired on The Daily Show with Jon Stewert and Rick Perry. Perry is talking about cutting entitlement programs in Texas and making Texas more pro-business. He says the Texans who need entitlements can move to California.

    He is really a clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^There is an old interview clip which was not aired on The Daily Show with Jon Stewert and Rick Perry. Perry is talking about cutting entitlement programs in Texas and making Texas more pro-business. He says the Texans who need entitlements can move to California.

    He is really a clown.
    Are you sure?
    Think about that statement re who needs entitlements?
    Texas is nothing but a state where folks (for the most part) want to get off their ass and work for a living...

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    ^So send the entire population of Hildago county, highest number of people on food stamps in USA, to San Diego. Then send all the handicapped Texans to San Francisco. The uninsured Texans can go to L.A. ........

    His "good idea" is to force his state's problems onto another state. Yes, he is a clown in my book.

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    Over 50% of Texans that are employed do not even have a proper job at all- they are paid by the hour, ie on casual terms. Some miracle. Perry's bid seems to be fizzling now anyway.

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    I can dig it!

    Steve Forbes Endorses Rick Perry

    Steve Forbes, a two time Republican presidential candidate, endorsed Governor Rick Perry in an interview on Fox News late Sunday afternoon. On Tuesday, Rick Perry will unveil his economic plan which includes measures to drastically reform the tax code and lower the corporate tax rate. It will also, he says, provide generous exemptions for “adults and for children.” Unlike Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 Plan, however, Perry’s plan will not include a sales tax. Forbes asserts that this small but significant difference, coupled with the governor’s “firm leadership,” are reasons why he is endorsing Perry’s candidacy.



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    Are they all crazy? This was published yesterday in Parade Magazine:



    "Here's the exchange between Perry and Parade magazine, published Sunday:
    Parade: Governor, do you believe that President Barack Obama was born in the United States?
    Perry: I have no reason to think otherwise.
    Parade: That's not a definitive, "Yes, I believe he ... "
    Perry: Well, I don't have a definitive answer, because he's never seen my birth certificate.
    Parade: But you've seen his.
    Perry: I don't know. Have I?"


    I'm dumbfounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borey the Bald View Post
    Are they all crazy? This was published yesterday in Parade Magazine:



    "Here's the exchange between Perry and Parade magazine, published Sunday:
    Parade: Governor, do you believe that President Barack Obama was born in the United States?
    Perry: I have no reason to think otherwise.
    Parade: That's not a definitive, "Yes, I believe he ... "
    Perry: Well, I don't have a definitive answer, because he's never seen my birth certificate.
    Parade: But you've seen his.
    Perry: I don't know. Have I?"


    I'm dumbfounded.
    You are?

    You must be the last individual who does not harbor suspicions.

    But as Perry also said (which you convienently left out) it doesn't matter...

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    This is what the exchange was:

    "Parade: But you've seen his.
    Perry: I don't know. Have I?"

    The conclusion I, and the average person today would draw, is that he is questioning the validity of Obama's birth certificate. Obviously, there is no indisputable proof of anything if you do not wish to believe it. The fact he later added "It doesn't matter", is irrelevant. He's saying Obama is a lying poser, but it doesn't matter.

    There must be some huge conspiracy to record his birth in Hawaii and place a birth notice in the newspaper in 1961. And to think, this "controversy" started to counter talk that John McCain wasn't qualified to be president because he was born in Panama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borey the Bald View Post
    This is what the exchange was:

    "Parade: But you've seen his.
    Perry: I don't know. Have I?"

    The conclusion I, and the average person today would draw, is that he is questioning the validity of Obama's birth certificate. Obviously, there is no indisputable proof of anything if you do not wish to believe it. The fact he later added "It doesn't matter", is irrelevant. He's saying Obama is a lying poser, but it doesn't matter.

    There must be some huge conspiracy to record his birth in Hawaii and place a birth notice in the newspaper in 1961. And to think, this "controversy" started to counter talk that John McCain wasn't qualified to be president because he was born in Panama.
    Yes it is all part of the paranoia that exists on the far right. They will go all extremes to further their dogma.

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    Perry's Plan

    "The plan starts with giving Americans a choice between a new, flat tax rate of 20% or their current income tax rate. The new flat tax preserves mortgage interest, charitable and state and local tax exemptions for families earning less than $500,000 annually, and it increases the standard deduction to $12,500 for individuals and dependents.
    This simple 20% flat tax will allow Americans to file their taxes on a postcard, saving up to $483 billion in compliance costs. By eliminating the dozens of carve-outs that make the current code so incomprehensible, we will renew incentives for entrepreneurial risk-taking and investment that creates jobs, inspires Americans to work hard and forms the foundation of a strong economy. My plan also abolishes the death tax once and for all, providing needed certainty to American family farms and small businesses."

    Rick Perry: My Tax and Spending Reform Plan - WSJ.com

    Eliminating that onerous Death Tax for all time is a great idea.

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    Discuss Perry all you want, but his bid for Potus is dead in the water.

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    Think so? He's never lost an election yet...

    Perry Rips Reporter on Live TV, For Bringing Up Birther Nonsense


    In South Carolina this afternoon, TX Gov. Rick Perry held a press conference to detail his economic plans. The very first reporter tried distracting him by bringing up the birther nonsense. Perry was having none of it; he cut the reporter off in mid sentence, said the issue is a “distraction” and put the focus right back on his plan.





    GOP 12: Perry: Birther issue a "distraction"

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    Perry Plan Would Grant Big Tax Break to Wealthiest

    GRAY COURT, S.C. — Gov. Rick Perry of Texas unveiled a plan on Tuesday to scrap the graduated income tax and replace it with a 20 percent flat rate while granting a major tax cut for the wealthy by throwing out rates as high as 35 percent and eliminating estate and investment taxes. It is the centerpiece of an ambitious proposal that aims to overhaul political sacred cows like Social Security and Medicare while slashing the federal budget.

    Mr. Perry, a Republican presidential candidate, said his proposal would also offer benefits to middle-class Americans by giving a $12,500 deduction for every member of a household while preserving exemptions for state and local taxes, mortgage interest and charitable contributions for anyone making less than $500,000. He said anyone could still file under the current code, and he also pledged to lower the corporate tax rate to 20 percent, from 35 percent.

    “Taxes will be cut on all income groups in America,” said Mr. Perry, who promised that taxes could be filed on a postcard-size form under his plan. “The net benefit will be more money in Americans’ pockets, with greater investment in the private economy instead of the federal government.”

    The plan represents a gamble for Mr. Perry, who is trying to reinvigorate a once-high-flying campaign by capturing some of the energy Herman Cain generated with his flat tax plan and by drawing a sharply conservative contrast with Mitt Romney.

    But in proposing what he called “bold reform” that may trim Social Security and Medicare benefits for many, Mr. Perry is also advocating potentially sweeping changes in entitlement programs that may open him to new lines of attack from Republican rivals, all at a time when polling shows many Americans want to see higher — not lower — taxes on the wealthy.

    The plan also proposes reducing the scope of the federal government by requiring drastically austere federal budgets — compared with what exists now — that spend no more than 18 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product, which analysts said would most likely force big cuts in government spending at almost every level. That would equate to a cut of one quarter of the budget from 2011 expected levels, and it would mark the lowest level of spending relative to G.D.P. since the mid-1960s, though rising tax receipts during the roaring economy of a dozen years ago temporarily brought the level close to 18 percent.

    To make the numbers work, Mr. Perry suggested raising the retirement age for Social Security and potentially changing the age eligibility for Medicare and using a sliding scale to limit benefits based on income, two proposals that, by themselves, could face significant opposition in Congress. Mr. Perry, who said his plan would balance the budget by 2020, also proposed letting younger workers divert some of their Social Security taxes into private investment accounts, a longtime goal of economic conservatives.

    Analysts said it would take time to examine the specific effects of the Perry plan. But Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, said: “There are two things we can say with certainty: It will lower revenue and be a great benefit to the wealthy.”

    He said the poor who have children would likely do better under the current system, because refundable tax credits provide some with net payments from the government. But Mr. Williams said it was unclear how many among the middle class would benefit — though families with more children or bigger mortgages would be more likely to opt for his proposal.

    Mr. Perry pledged to not cut any benefits of current Social Security retirees or those about to tap into the system. But to do that, and cut the budget to 18 percent of G.D.P., would require cutting at least one third of the remaining federal budget, said James R. Horney, the vice president for federal fiscal policy at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal research group in Washington.

    It would require “a dismantling of federal programs,” Mr. Horney said, along with “draconian cuts in virtually every kind of spending.”

    Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for President Obama’s re-election campaign, criticized both the Perry plan and one offered by Mitt Romney as “guided by the same principle: they would shift a greater share of taxes away from large corporations and the wealthiest onto the backs of the middle class.”

    Mr. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, has called for extending the Bush tax cuts, lowering the corporate tax rate to 25 percent and exempting investment income for taxpayers who make less than $200,000.

    Conservative tax activists like the Club for Growth say the Perry plan would spur economic growth, but many economists warn that if put in place immediately anything that cuts the size of federal government as severely as Mr. Perry’s proposal would throw the economy back into recession.

    What remains to be seen is how much appetite there is among Republican primary voters for such an ambitious reshaping of tax policy and, potentially, entitlement programs. A New York Times/CBS poll released Tuesday found that 65 percent of Americans say taxes should be increased on households earning $1 million or more, while 66 percent say money and wealth in the country should be distributed more evenly. Another 69 percent say the policies of Republicans in Congress favor the rich, while 67 percent say it is a bad idea to lower taxes for large corporations.

    Analysts also immediately raised questions about how many people would actually see their taxes simplified, one of Mr. Perry’s main claims: Many middle-class families would actually need to figure their taxes using both systems before deciding which one would save them more money, potentially increasing the amount of time they spend on taxes rather than making tax preparation easier.

    Another question is how well Mr. Perry and his newly revamped campaign team can package and sell the tax proposal. That effort may have been undermined on Tuesday, when, many media outlets, instead of being focused on the tax plan, covered Mr. Perry’s statement in two interviews that he was not certain Mr. Obama was born in the United States. Those comments linked him to the so-called birther movement, whose members question whether the president is occupying the White House legally.

    Given an opportunity to play down the issue in an interview Monday night with CNBC and The New York Times, Mr. Perry refused, saying that “it’s a good issue to keep alive.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/us...t.html?_r=1&hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Conservative tax activists like the Club for Growth say the Perry plan would spur economic growth
    Like the Bush tax cuts? Yeh, right.
    Simplifying the tax codes would be a good idea- the amount of paperwork involved in an American lodging his annual tax return is ridiculous. But the actual levels of tax being paid by the wealthy and Corporations are already at such levels that cutting them further would have no economic impact. Meanwhile, there is the small matter of the US government going broke.

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    So far of the three republican candidates (Cain, Romney, and Perry) tax plans that I have read all shift the tax burden away from the rich and place it squarely on the backs of the middle class. Shameful.

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    The GOP's real role as a Lobby group for the already Rich and Corporations is obvious, but we should not forget that most of the ten wealthiest members of Congress are Democrat's- and they all voted for the extension of the Bush tax cuts too. I would describe the overall Democrat party as right of centre actually, although at least it is more moderate than the latter day Republican's. Politics in the US doesn't possess what you might term a 'social Democrat' alternative, unless you look at a small coterie of individuals such as Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi, who are well outnumbered.

    At the end of the day, the US government has to find a way to pay it's bills and reduce debt. Perry's ill considered 'policies' can only lead to one outcome- drastically slashing government services, using the rapidly deteriorating government debt situation as a pretext. That, in fact, is the real agenda here and it is barely disguised.

    Any real fiscal conservative would definitely look at the USA's inordinately high Defence expenditure to reduce debt, but not the GOP. They would also be in favor of Health care reform, to bring down the ridiculous percentage of GDP the US spends on health care- but of course the GOP wishes to keep it private (ie expensive), and overturn the legislation already in place. Voodoo economics being used to sell a Trojan horse, basically. Anyway, why bother with Perry- he won't be the candidate at all, he's unelectable. When it comes down to it, I think the Tea Parties real objection to Mitt is that he is a Mormon- but they have no realistic alternative.
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    Tried to post a video. Failed.

    Check it out on u-tube. Rick Perry giving a speech on Oct 28. Certainly looked to me as if he was under the influence of something.

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    Perry looks very Presidential here:

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    Rickamerka- Fuck Yehh!!

    Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry said on Thursday that as president he would support an Israeli air strike on Iran if there is proof Tehran is moving closer to having a nuclear weapon.

    "Obviously, we are going to support Israel. And I've said that we will support Israel in every way that we can, whether it's diplomatic, whether it's economic sanctions, whether it's overt or covert operations, up to and including military action," the Texas governor said in an interview on CNN.

    "We cannot afford to allow that madman in Iran to get his hands on a nuclear weapon period," Perry added.
    Republican Perry would back Israel strike on Iran nuke sites | Reuters


    "We cannot afford to allow that madman in Amerka to get his hands on a nuclear weapon period,"


    The black pizza boy is paid for by kochtopus, the loony cowboy by right wing Jews and the sort of Christians that babble in tongues, and believe they are talking directly to God. It's an interesting sideshow.

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    Bit over the top are we not there sabang?

    You'd let I-Ran slide when they will or already have capabilities of dropping a Nuke on Europe? Don't forget they have also vowed to wipe Israel off the map.

    The best defense is offense.

    ...black pizza boy - heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Perry looks very Presidential here:
    here too,


    and here, "save a pretzel for the gas jets", WTF?
    Rick Perry - Bad Lip Synch Video

    I'll concede though, he's a snappy dancer,


    and he can blow a poll with the best of them, shlob that kosher dog, Good Hair! Just save a pretzel for the gas jets!!


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    Rick Perry has never lost an election yet...

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