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    Jeez! And I thought George W was the bottom of the Republican barrel scrapings. Now, lookee here?

    Palin! Perry! I hope they never breed or look out world!

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    Beware of Rick Perry, the French cuff cowboy

    If you find yourself wondering how it was you missed the whole 4th season of Walker, Texas Ranger, while forcing yourself to attend Lamaze classes with your significant other. If on cool, crisp days the aforementioned tragedy causes you to wistfully wonder how to fill the emptiness inside - let me introduce you to the Rick Perry for President Campaign.

    Perry, who has seemingly been Governor of Texas since around the time when remaining at The Alamo began to look like a questionable career move, is now ready to throw his 10-gallon hat, frothy intellect and custom-made cowboy boots into the national political ring.

    Predictably, Democrats are laughing. He's just another dumb Texan. Another mentally challenged Republican. He's Reagan. And George W Bush. He can't win.

    Does anyone else see the problem with this line of reasoning? Shhh, don't tell anyone, but Reagan and Bush The Younger served as president for roughly 50 per cent of the past 30 years.

    Of course Perry can win, and in fact, if the Obama team keeps thinking that "patent reform" is the new WPA and continues to show that fighting Dukakis spirit, I'd go so far as to give Perry the advantage should he secure the GOP nomination.
    Should he be president of anything of more consequence than a glee club? Of course not.

    He's made it clear in speeches and his recently released macho-man web advert that he'll do for America what he did for Texas - which probably involves shooting cheetahs recreationally with hollow-tipped bullets and creating benefit-rich employment opportunities for Americans, such as scraping toilets and salting freedom fries.

    That's right, the much-vaunted "Texas Miracle" is as fake as Perry, built on the premise that working three minimum wage jobs and going without healthcare (Texas leads the nation in percentage of overall residents and children without healthcare) is some kind of economic Eden, as opposed to say an economic Elba Island.

    Perry, meanwhile, is a "cowboy" who wears Armani suits and French cuffs (seriously, French cuffs?). Attacks stimulus spending while taking a heaped helping of it to bail himself out. Uses taxpayer money to enrich his corporate-lobbyist friends - and endangers the United States of America by inviting a Chinese telecom company into Texas that George W Bush's national security team warned him would pose a cyber-security threat to our military - after talking tough on the Chinese in his children's book: Fed Up.

    In other words, he's a fraud

    But will Democrats, and the Obama campaign, specifically, tell that story? Or will they give his myriad character deficiencies a pass, as Obama already did when Perry entered the race by questioning Obama's love of country, and Obama responded with something along the lines of "he's new to this, give him some time".

    It reminds me of 2008, long before the economic crash and Obama's election became a foregone conclusion. Back then, when the race was neck-and-neck, John McCain attacked Obama's patriotism by saying things like Obama "would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign" and his Russia-gazing, vice-presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, offered that he was "palling around with terrorists". The Obama response was to laugh off these attacks or offer some variation of how McCain was a war hero who was "borrowing bad ideas from George W Bush."

    It isn't just Obama, though, even though he's turned this into an art form. This is how Democrats have been running campaigns for a long time now. Republicans go straight for the character of the Democrat, realising that if they destroy the messenger, it won't matter much what the Democrat says. Democrats are called liars, flip-floppers, and variations on treasonous - and respond by telling people their Republican opponent has a healthcare plan that only cuts costs by one per cent, not the two per cent they're promising.

    What is so strange about this is that trial lawyers, who make a living by "impeaching the credibility of witnesses", and Hollywood producers, who earn their paycheques by reaching us emotionally, are both pretty solid Democratic constituencies. Yet, their know-how hasn't seemed to penetrate much of the Democratic consultant class.

    Rick Perry is dangerous. He is a dominionist, meaning the Biblical Law, to him, supersedes that of the US Constitution. He possesses slightly less gravitas than a half-eaten bowl of chili. The amount of hairspray he uses might actually be a threat to national security. And as conservative intellectual Bruce Bartlett put it, he's kind of an "idiot".

    Perry's also already shown his willingness to do anything to win, no matter how potentially damaging to the US and its economy - starting his campaign with an attack on the patriotism of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke (specifically intended to hamstring his economic response to this crisis), who you may remember was originally put in that job by none other then George W Bush.

    So call Perry dumb, make jokes about a guy who found a way to get a C in college gym, which presumably included trying to eat the eye-black and steal bases by actually, you know, stealing the bases.

    Make fun of him, because it's enjoyable!

    But don't for a second think this is the way to beat him in a race for the presidency. The way to do that is to tell the truth about him. That he's as fake as a three-dollar bill, all hat and no cattle, or to put it in a language Perry can understand - he's Blazing Saddles, not The Unforgiven.

    Just the truth: Beware of Rick Perry, the French cuff cowboy - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
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    Gallup Poll: Rick Perry Has 21 Point Lead Among Self-Identified Tea Partiers Over Rivals


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    Rick Perry is dangerous. He is a dominionist, meaning the Biblical Law, to him, supersedes that of the US Constitution.


    I need confimation this is true. Not liking him already, if he's tied to Dominionism I'd rather have Obama win again. But the question is, how close is he to Dominionism. Will there be policies to back Dominionism in court appointments? Policy?

    All politicians pull 180s, and start reversing themelves when they run for a national office, but Perry is all over the place.

    *Said he wouldn't take Federal money - the took it.
    *Said he support states rights (on this gay marriage thing) and now he supports a Constutional Amendment (which will never pass because 37 states need to approve it.
    *Other reversals that I can't recall at the moment.

    The GOP could and should find a better candidate, but what are the chances of that happening if you look at past nominees of both parties?

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    ^There was a very good article in The Texas Observer on this subject. Unfortunately, it looks as though it has been taken off line.

    NPR had an article a few days ago. Here are a couple of snips.

    An emerging Christian movement that seeks to take dominion over politics, business and culture in preparation for the end times and the return of Jesus, is becoming more of a presence in American politics. The leaders are considered apostles and prophets, gifted by God for this role.
    The international "apostolic and prophetic" movement has been dubbed by its leading American architect, C. Peter Wagner, as the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).


    Two ministries in the movement planned and orchestrated Texas Gov. Rick Perry's recent prayer rally, where apostles and prophets from around the nation spoke or appeared onstage. The event was patterned after The Call, held at locations around the globe and led by Lou Engle, who has served in the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders of the NAR. Other NAR apostles endorsed Perry's event, including two who lead a 50-state "prayer warrior" network. Thomas Muthee, the Kenyan pastor who anointed Sarah Palin at the Wasilla Assembly of God Church in 2005, while praying for Jesus to protect her from the spirit of witchcraft, is also part of this movement.



    Rachel Tabachnick, who researches the political impact of the religious right, has this to say in the article.

    Tabachnick says the movement currently works with a variety of politicians and has a presence in all 50 states. It also has very strong opinions about the direction it wants the country to take. For the past several years, she says, the NAR has run a campaign to reclaim what it calls the "seven mountains of culture" from demonic influence. The "mountains" are arts and entertainment; business; family; government; media; religion; and education.


    "They teach quite literally that these 'mountains' have fallen under the control of demonic influences in society," says Tabachnick. "And therefore, they must reclaim them for God in order to bring about the kingdom of God on Earth. ... The apostles teach what's called 'strategic level spiritual warfare' [because they believe that the] reason why there is sin and corruption and poverty on the Earth is because the Earth is controlled by a hierarchy of demons under the authority of Satan. So they teach not just evangelizing souls one by one, as we're accustomed to hearing about. They teach that they will go into a geographic region or a people group and conduct spiritual-warfare activities in order to remove the demons from the entire population. This is what they're doing that's quite fundamentally different than other evangelical groups."



    What a bunch of nuts!

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    ^ Thanks misskit, but I need a link.

    Where did you get this from?

    Or, did you write it?

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    ^ Thanx for both!

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    I suppose you need not bother working out how to pay off your mounting debt, if you reckon Armageddon is just around the corner.

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    Heh, just saw this: “The political graveyard in Texas is buried full of
    people who have underestimated Rick Perry.”

    For those who consider Rick Perry dumb that is...

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62214.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Heh, just saw this: “The political graveyard in Texas is buried full of people who have underestimated Rick Perry.” For those who consider Rick Perry dumb that is...
    I don't consider him dumb at all Booners, in fact I think he is, like most politicians, a clever oportunist. His views will play very well with the American masses who have bought all the bullshit about god and country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    For those who consider Rick Perry dumb that is...
    Probably average or above average in intelligence.

    Regarldess, he has coaches and handlers who are training him when the talk (like other people similar to him, GWB, Palin, etc).

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    ^ about the idiot talking,................

    In last year's Gubernatorial election Rick Perry refused to debate his Democratic opponent because his handlers were afraid to let him speak off the cuff about issues.

    link: AMERICAblog Elections: The Right’s Field: Perry doesn't debate

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    ^ Yeah, Landreth, he doesn't seem to good with words. I just read more transcripts of him today. He's a buffoon.

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    Perry’s ‘Pay-to-Play’ Job-Incentive Funds Miss Targets in Texas

    Rick Perry touts Texas as home to more new jobs in the past decade than any other state. Yet the taxpayer-funded programs he has used to lure employers and finance expansion often fail to meet employment goals, according to officials and activists.

    While basing his bid for the Republican presidential nomination on limited government, the governor, 61, oversees state job-stimulating funds that have provided almost $633 million to companies including retailers Cabela’s Inc. (CAB) and Home Depot Inc. (HD) and agribusinesses such as Tyson Foods Inc. (TSN) A Perry spokeswoman says the recipients have created almost 58,400 new jobs. A watchdog group says two-thirds missed their targets.

    Democrats including Jim Dunnam, a former state representative from Waco, also knock Perry for using the funds to reward contributors and for delivering taxpayer money to businesses as schools and health care are shortchanged. Some Republicans have faulted the programs for inadequate disclosure and not reporting on jobs actually created.

    “It’s legal plunder,” said state Representative David Simpson, a Longview Republican backed by Tea Party activists.

    “You can’t avoid the appearance of impropriety when you take money from everyone and you give it to a select few,” said the first-term lawmaker. He opposes using tax money for business and said he voted against the school funding deal Perry signed.

    ‘Pay-to-Play’

    Funding recipients have included Washington Mutual, now a JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) unit, and Countrywide Financial, now owned by Bank of America Corp. (BAC) Perry’s campaigns received at least $8,500 in donations from both political action committees and/or from individuals tied to Washington Mutual and $7,000 connected to Countrywide, state Ethics Commission records show.

    “It’s a pay-to-play deal, always has been,” said Dunnam, the former representative, who was on a legislative committee that oversaw development funds.

    Applicants for development-fund money “are thoroughly vetted and go through a rigorous review,” Lucy Nashed, a Perry spokeswoman, said by e-mail in response to questions about the connections between recipients and political contributions.

    “The governor is interested in finding the highest and best use of the state incentive funds,” Nashed said.

    Sanderson Farms

    Sanderson Farms Inc. (SAFM), a Laurel, Mississippi-based poultry producer, received $500,000 in fiscal 2007 to help build a plant in Waco. Joe Sanderson Jr., chairman and chief executive officer, gave $100,000 to Perry’s campaign committee in two $50,000 contributions, in 2009 and 2010. Sanderson didn’t respond to a request for comment through an assistant.

    Donors to the governor have benefited in other ways. Dallas billionaire Harold Simmons, who has given more than $1.2 million to Perry campaigns, won permission to build a radioactive-waste dump in West Texas over the objection of state environmental regulatory employees worried about possible water contamination.

    “It seems to help if you donate to Perry,” said Craig McDonald, executive director of Texans for Public Justice, a nonprofit political-watchdog group. “There’s a correlation between those who pay and those who get from Perry.”

    McDonald’s Austin-based group tied $17.1 million in Perry political support to 921 appointees, or their spouses, on state boards and commissions, in a September 2010 report. The donations were made from 2001 to June 2010, the group said.

    Perry, who became governor in December 2000 when George W. Bush resigned ahead of his presidential inauguration, says his job-creation record makes him the best-qualified to take on President Barack Obama in 2012. Perry also has attacked Obama’s economic stimulus as unfocused government spending.

    Governor Oversees Funds

    Under the governor, the state created both the Texas Enterprise Fund in 2003 and the Texas Emerging Technology Fund in 2005. Perry directly oversees both, as well as a third set up to aid film and television production. Such programs steer public money into businesses and promotions for sports events, as a way to boost the economy.

    For example, the state plans to provide $25 million a year for a decade to bring Formula One car racing to Austin, through a program to support special events. The same fund has been tapped to promote the National Football League’s Super Bowl championship in Dallas and college basketball tournaments. B.J. “Red” McCombs, a co-founder of broadcaster Clear Channel Communications who backs the Formula One project, has given more than $170,000 to Perry’s campaign committee, the records show.

    Assessing the job-creation results from the incentive programs is difficult, critics including Dunnam and McDonald say. The funds haven’t had to report the numbers of new positions produced by recipients, and there are few independent studies to compare with figures provided by Nashed.

    Job Creation

    The enterprise fund has spurred the creation of 58,382 jobs by investing $435.6 million, said Nashed, the governor’s spokeswoman. Perry has referred to it as the largest “deal closing fund” in the U.S.

    “We’ve worked hard here in Texas to create an economic environment that attracts jobs and allows employers to risk their capital and receive a good return,” Nashed said. “Each of these jobs represents a livelihood for a Texan and their family, and helps strengthen the state’s economy.”

    Only 11 of 50 recipients of enterprise fund money that had promised to create jobs by 2009 met their goals, Texans for Public Justice, the political-watchdog group, said in a September 2010 report, among the most comprehensive available. It said more than 10 percent of the 50 projects examined were terminated, 14 managed to get their agreements amended to cut employment targets and 13 simply broke their pledges. The remainder fell somewhere in between.

    Conflicting Figures

    By the end of 2009, companies receiving enterprise fund money listed 22,544 jobs created in Texas, according to the report. An additional 8,147 were tied to three projects that also got cash from the program. The study said Perry claimed in January 2010 that the fund had spurred the creation of 54,600 jobs.

    “The jobs are just projected jobs,” said McDonald. “Our contention is that they weren’t created and may never be created.”

    Since December 2000, Texas employers have added more than 1 million nonfarm positions, even as the U.S. total was little changed, according to Labor Department figures. By 2008, when state payroll employment peaked at about 10.7 million, Comptroller Susan Combs, also a Republican, said six state economic-development programs including the funds overseen by Perry were responsible for less than 1 percent of those jobs.

    Unknown to Lawmakers

    The number of new jobs resulting from development-fund projects remains an unknown to lawmakers.

    When enterprise fund employees appeared before the Legislature, they often couldn’t or wouldn’t testify about the positions actually created, said Dunnam, a lawmaker from 1997 to early this year. Instead, the workers talked about jobs promised to result from incentive money.

    “They didn’t want us to know what the actual number of jobs created was,” said Dunnam, a member of the economic development committee that oversaw the funds. “You’d just get the runaround.”

    When Simpson, the Longview Republican, tried to cut off the incentive funds in May, Perry called him into his office for a meeting. Perry was “sensitive” to criticism of the programs, the lawmaker said.

    “He took offense at my call for more transparency,” said Simpson, 50. Nashed, Perry’s spokeswoman, declined to comment on the meeting.

    Auditor Seeks Transparency

    Simpson wasn’t alone in seeking changes in reporting from the emerging technology fund.

    Closed-door funding decisions should be more transparent, Auditor John Keel said in a report in April. He also said the state needed to improve so-far limited monitoring of cash recipients and cited inadequate reporting by the organizations that got taxpayer money.

    The technology fund has handed out $197.2 million to 133 “early stage” companies as well as $173 million in research grants to state universities, Nashed said. Actual job figures for the fund aren’t available because they weren’t part of reporting requirements, she said. The Legislature has since made such reports mandatory.

    The administration follows legislated requirements for monitoring and providing data to state lawmakers “detailing the status of the state’s investments,” Nashed said.
    The enterprise and technology funds require a “detailed application process” before being presented to Perry, she said.

    Shared Control

    Perry, along with Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst and Joe Straus, the speaker of theHouse of Representatives, make the final decisions on funding. Dewhurst and Straus are both Republicans.

    Money for the technology fund was included in the budget for the two years that begin today, even after lawmakers closed an estimated $15 billion deficit partly by shortchanging schools and Medicaid, the health-care program for the poor.

    Legislators including Simpson have questioned whether the state should be picking private companies to support with taxpayer dollars. The freshman Republican said the state shouldn’t use its resources for that purpose.

    “If it was a level playing field, the market would allocate capital to the right places,” Simpson said.

    Others have questioned whether Perry should be running government-funded job-creation programs as he attacks Obama’s $825 billion economic-stimulus measure.
    Stimulus No Answer

    “Government doesn’t create jobs, otherwise the last two and a half years of stimulus would have worked,” Perry said in an Aug. 10 speech in San Antonio. “Government can only create the environment that allows the private sector to create jobs.”
    The state’s development funds “are important tools to help strengthen Texas’s economic environment, and help the state compete for jobs and investment,” Nashed said.

    If elected president, Perry said he wouldn’t push a stimulus program, in an Aug. 29 speech in Tulsa, the Associated Press reported. Perry hasn’t flinched from taking and spending about $17 billion from Obama’s 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds, according to David Axelrod, a Chicago- based political adviser to the president’s re-election campaign.

    While the federal spending isn’t targeted and raised the national debt, Nashed said, the Texas program is funded by a balanced budget and “has a laser focus on job creation.” She said comparing the state’s development programs with Obama’s stimulus measure isn’t fair.

    “I don’t know why federal stimulus is bad and state stimulus is good,” Dunnam said.

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    President Downgrade Loses to Rick Perry In Latest Rasmussen Poll

    Obama only gets 41% of the vote. Pretty pathetic, eh?



    For the first time this year, Texas Governor Rick Perry leads President Obama in a national Election 2012 survey. Other Republican candidates trail the president by single digits.
    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows Perry picking up 44% of the vote while the president earns support from 41%. Given the margin of sampling error (+/- 3 percentage points) and the fact that the election is more than a year away, the race between the two men is effectively a toss-up. Just over a week ago, the president held a three-point advantage over Perry. (To see question wording, click here.)
    Perry leads by nine among men but trails by five among women. Among voters under 30, the president leads while Perry has the edge among those over 30. The president leads Perry by 16 percentage points among union members while Perry leads among those who do not belong to a union.
    Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney currently trails the president by four percentage points, 43% to 39%.



    Perry 44% Obama 41%; President Leads Other GOP Hopefuls - Rasmussen Reports
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    Some more facts (a commercial) about Perry from a CPAC that supports Bachmann. It’s a fight for the crazy vote.


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    AP MISLEADS READERS ON RICK PERRY: Cherry-Picks His Statement on Border Security & Lies About Audience Reaction

    Anybody surprised? Heh, thought not. The corrupt media will do anything ANYTHING to assist failed President Barack Obama, the worst jobs president since the Great Depression, in his re-election campaign next year.

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry won over some Republican voters at a backyard reception held Saturday at the Manchester home of Chuck Stephen and co-hosted by John Stephen, the former Republican gubernatorial nominee. (Shawne K. Wickham/Sunday News) And, the state-run media is TERRIFIED of Governor Rick Perry from Texas.
    Yesterday the AP reported this on Rick Perry’s campaign stop in New Hampshire:
    Speaking to hundreds of Granite State voters at a private reception, the Texas governor was asked whether he supported a fence along the Mexican border.
    “No, I don’t support a fence on the border,” he said. “The fact is, it’s 1,200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso. Two things: How long you think it would take to build that? And then if you build a 30-foot wall from El Paso to Brownsville, the 35-foot ladder business gets real good.”
    The answer produced an angry shout from at least one audience member

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    what some Taxans think about Perry (from a game this past weekend),............


    Rice University marching band mocks Rick Perry

    It seems as though there’s no love between Rice University in Houston and Texas A&M, with the more academic-minded students at Rice typically looking down their noses at A&M’s “Aggies.”

    Texas Governor Rick Perry is currently one of the best known A&M alumni, having graduated in 1972 with a 2.4 grade point average and a degree in animal sciences.

    “This was not the brightest guy around,” a former classmate told the Huffington Post. “We always kind of laughed. He was always kind of a joke.”

    Now Rice’s Marching Owl Band has taken a shot of their own at Perry’s intelligence, telling a stadium full of cheering spectators, “The next time you go to the polls, ask yourself, ‘Is your candidate smarter than an Aggie?’”

    This video was posted to YouTube on September 3, 2011.



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    Heh...here's a Rick Perry Video for the ladies!

    Race over.
    As reported by the San Francisco Chronicle’s Joe Garofoli, Rick Perry just signed a former Romney supporter’s handmade Perry poster — with a heart over the I. Well, over the whole word, to be fair, which includes the I. The point is, it’s a giant heart. He signed his name with a giant heart! And she found it endearing!


    Rick Perry signs ‘Rick’ with a heart over the I - ComPost - The Washington Post


    Perry gets the women's vote, the race is indeed, over...

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    As I may said it before.

    Governor Perry: thank you for publicly telling the truth about SS. It's a Ponzi scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Perry gets the women's vote, the race is indeed, over...
    Maybe he’ll get that gay vote also,…….

    Gov. Perry Takes States Rights Position on Gay Marriage

    Texas Governor Rick Perry said that he favors letting states decide whether or not to allow gay marriage, a remark that could have repercussions for a possible presidential bid.

    “Our friends in New York six weeks ago passed a statute that said marriage can be between two people of the same sex. And you know what? That's New York, and that's their business, and that's fine with me. That is their call. If you believe in the 10th Amendment, stay out of their business,” Perry said at an event held by the Aspen Institute in Aspen, Colo., on Friday.

    Those who favor giving states authority over the federal government often cite the 10th Amendment to the Constitution in defense of their position. It says, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    Perry was also referencing New York state's recently passed law allowing gay marriage. The law goes into effect on Sunday.


    Link: Gov. Perry Takes States Rights Position on Gay Marriage, Christian News


    Oh but wait there is this,……

    Republican 2012 contender Rick Perry 'signs pledge against gay marriage

    Link: Republican 2012 contender Rick Perry 'signs pledge against gay marriage' - Telegraph


    Well maybe he’ll get the hypocrite vote also

    Link: Latent homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Rick Perry’s new website, should be: http://www.flipflopshops.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Rick Perry is dangerous. He is a dominionist, meaning the Biblical Law, to him, supersedes that of the US Constitution.


    I need confimation this is true. Not liking him already, if he's tied to Dominionism I'd rather have Obama win again. But the question is, how close is he to Dominionism. Will there be policies to back Dominionism in court appointments? Policy?

    All politicians pull 180s, and start reversing themelves when they run for a national office, but Perry is all over the place.

    *Said he wouldn't take Federal money - the took it.
    *Said he support states rights (on this gay marriage thing) and now he supports a Constutional Amendment (which will never pass because 37 states need to approve it.
    *Other reversals that I can't recall at the moment.

    The GOP could and should find a better candidate, but what are the chances of that happening if you look at past nominees of both parties?
    Just Google Rick Perry prayer rally. Here's an article: Rick Perry's call to prayer draws crowd of 30,000 | World news | The Guardian

    Maybe the libertarians will finally wise up and realize the Republicans are no closer to their way of thinking than the Dems.

    By the way, I hope Perry will keep trashing Social Security, and have a go at Medicare while he's at it. Bye-bye Florida. And by the way, if you think SS is a Ponzi scheme, you either don't know what a Ponzi scheme is or you don't know how SS is funded.
    “You can lead a horticulture but you can’t make her think.” Dorothy Parker

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Governor Perry: thank you for publicly telling the truth about SS. It's a Ponzi scheme.
    Rick Perry’s a pussy.

    Today in Orange County California,……….

    ATTENDEE: Romney’s advisers said you want to abolish Social Security because it’s a Ponzi scheme. What do you say to that?

    PERRY: I’d say that’s misinformation. We just want to fix it.

    ATTENDEE: Are they distorting your record?

    PERRY: (No response, shakes his head.)



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    Did Perry Blow It on Social Security?

    aA Gallop Poll taken in May found that 67 percent of Americans believe that Social Security and Medicare are already creating or will within ten years create “a crisis for the federal government.” That included 54 percent of Democrats. Another 19 percent expect the crisis within 10 to 20 years. Only 4 percent said the programs would not create a problem for more than 20 years, and 7 percent said “not in the foreseeable future.”

    To face the facts about Social Security is not to throw granny over the cliff, as the Democrats would have it. There are reforms (such as the program adopted by Chile, as Herman Cain mentioned and as I wrote about recently) that would offer a better return for retirees and a better deal for younger workers. Republicans can also fairly propose gradual increases in the retirement age.

    Either Americans are going to solve this problem by facing up to it, or they aren’t. But Republicans cannot hope to sneak the issue past the voters during election season with dishonest palaver and then impose a solution — or worse, join the Democrats in denial. On this issue, Rick Perry was treating voters as adults."

    Did Perry Blow It on Social Security? - Mona Charen - National Review Online

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