Thread: 9/11 truth

Gremlins!

Anyone interested in gremlins are invited to post to :

tangaroa22@yahoo.com

The dude's a complete nutter.

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by RDN

There is no evidence to support the existence of gremlins. Any film or films you may have seen purporting to show gremlins were, in fact, fakes.

To take the lack of evidence as proof that there are no gremlins, is a fallacious argument, as we established earlier on.
And do you really believe anyone would go out of their way to fake films about Gremlins? Sounds like some conspiracy theory to me...

Hmm, Stroller seems very sure of his belief in gremlins...


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Have we discovered something here?...

Well, I take on human form from time to time.

So, it's true that the black boxes were never discovered for 2 of the planes? And then testimony from firefighters?

Does anyone have more info on this? TIA.

9/11 Cover-Up Connection: Black Boxes Found 15 Hours After Buffalo Crash


Yet FBI claimed that indestructible black boxes were never discovered following WTC attack

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, February 13, 2009

One of a plethora of cover-ups surrounding 9/11 is the FBI’s contention that the black boxes onboard the two planes that crashed into the World Trade Center were never found, a claim that has been further discredited following the news that the black box onboard flight Q400 that crashed last night in New York was found within 15 hours.

The FBI told the 9/11 Commission that the black boxes from Flight 11 and Flight 175, despite being built to withstand direct full speed crashes and temperatures of 1800-degrees, were never discovered in the wreckage at ground zero. They also claimed that the voice recorder from Flight 77 and the flight data box from Flight 93 were damaged beyond recovery.

It is incredibly rare that black boxes remain undiscovered after a plane crash, and considering that the WTC site was meticulously cleaned up to the point where tiny bone fragments were recovered, it is inconceivable that the black boxes could have been completely lost, even if they were damaged beyond repair.

In 2004, New York firefighters Mike Bellone and Nicholas DeMasi went public to say they had found the black boxes at the World Trade Center, but were told to keep their mouths shut by FBI agents. Nicholas DeMasi said that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate the devices, a story backed up by rescue volunteer Mike Bellone.

As the Philadelphia Daily News reported at the time, “Their story raises the question of whether there was a some type of cover-up at Ground Zero.”

“At one point, I was asked to take Federal Agents around the site to search for the black boxes from the planes,” he wrote. “We were getting ready to go out. My ATV was parked at the top of the stairs at the Brooks Brothers entrance area. We loaded up about a million dollars worth of equipment and strapped it into the ATV,” said DeMasi.

“At one point, Bellone said he observed the team with a box that appeared charred but was redish-orange with two white stripes. Pictures of the flight recorders on the NTSB and other Web sites show devices that are orange, with two white stripes,” reported the newspaper.

“There was the one that I saw, and two others were recovered in different locations - but I wasn’t there for the other two,” Bellone said. He said the FBI agents left with the boxes.”


In addition, a source at the National Transportation Safety Board later told Counterpunch, “Off the record, we had the boxes….You’d have to get the official word from the FBI as to where they are, but we worked on them here.”

Suspicions surrounding the so-called failure to locate the black boxes at the World Trade Center can only be heightened by the news that the black box from last night’s tragic plane crash in Buffalo was discovered within a mere 15 hours.

Furthermore, both the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder were in perfect condition, as you can see from the image below.

“The black box of a commercial airliner that nose-dived into a Buffalo house in New York has been retrieved, about 15 hours after the incident,” reports Press TV.

The flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder “have been found and they are on their way back here,” said Ted Lopatkiewicz a spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), AFP reported on Friday.


The motivation behind lying about the recovery of the black boxes on 9/11 is obvious - any aspect of the recordings of the onboard conversations between the pilots or the movements of their plane that didn’t coalesce with the official story would have destroyed the fairy tale that was being constructed around the attacks in the very minutes and hours after they started to unfold.

Link & Entire: 9/11 Cover-Up Connection: Black Boxes Found 15 Hours After Buffalo Crash

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Jesus H. Chocolate Christ! We gotta go thru some more BS conspiracy crap re 9/11?

OK...what's this so-called 'fairy story' then? Coalesceing (whatever the fok that is) with the 'official' version?

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Exactly...M/M must be real short on material to dredge that up...

With regards to the comparison, that's a fair point. The black boxes are designed to take direct impacts into the ground. The collision with the WTC was cheesecake in comparison.

The collision with the WTC was cheesecake in comparison.

An academic expert on aeronautical collisions are you?

How many years study do you have on the phenomena?

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Any doubts - go to the Popular Mechanics debunking of all the 9/11 conspiracy 'truths'...

Originally Posted by RDN

Originally Posted by ENT

Above misalignment of text not my doing, just gremlins!

There is no evidence to support the existence of gremlins. Any film or films you may have seen purporting to show gremlins were, in fact, fakes.

Your misaligned text was the result of either poor editing on your part, a poor Internet connection, or a malfunction of either your computer or the TD server.

On the other hand, it is possible that one of the mods edited your post in order to misalign the text. The reason for this is unclear, and the lack of an "Edited by..." at the bottom of the post does not support this theory.

I go for the "poor editing" scenario.

Don't you mean to say, 'any evidence has been highly suppressed'?

the conspiracy was a bunch of crazed ragheads, using illicit funds, who plotted and planned for months in secret. like yamamoto in 1941, they woke a sleeping giant. "you dont need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows", said bob dylan (1965).

Originally Posted by blackgang

How in the fuck can 2 Jumbo Jets bury themselves into a skyscraper with 10 or 20 stories above then amd who known how many below them, then the whole fucking thing crumble into a pile of rubble after days of burning and falling into a hole in the ground, office machines, HVAC equipment, bodys, no telling what was in that hugh pile, everything imaginable there and some fuckwit wants to compare that to a 50 seat commuter jet crashing into a house,, good Jesus christ , lets get off that heavy dope shit and get fucking real.

Yet they still managed to find one of the hijackers passport.
Amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing.

Originally Posted by Plan B

Originally Posted by blackgang

How in the fuck can 2 Jumbo Jets bury themselves into a skyscraper with 10 or 20 stories above then amd who known how many below them, then the whole fucking thing crumble into a pile of rubble after days of burning and falling into a hole in the ground, office machines, HVAC equipment, bodys, no telling what was in that hugh pile, everything imaginable there and some fuckwit wants to compare that to a 50 seat commuter jet crashing into a house,, good Jesus christ , lets get off that heavy dope shit and get fucking real.

Yet they still managed to find one of the hijackers passport.
Amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing.

Yes.

Mohammed Atta's passport was discovered - all clean and neat, and totally readable and recognizable.

How could this have happened?

Come on, seriously... What exactly would the people do about it?

I'll tell you what - fuck all that's what, they'd do the same thing they have done the world over for hundreds of years. Shut the fuck up, do as they are told and live in fear.

A highly educated Thai/Chinese acquaintance of mine explained to me that it was airplanes, but the airplanes were not controlled by Muslims... it was the Jews manipulating the silly red blooded sons of Uncle Sam. They directed the planes by... remote control!! Hence the cover up.

There are problems with the evidence... but I suspect it was a preventable crisis... the gov could have done something, but didn't. That's why some stuff looks suspicious.

Here is the beginning of a serious:

Part 1/11


Part 2/11


Part 3/11


Part 4/11


Part 5/11

Well finally, the shock is over and people are stripping off the illusions re. 9/11.
Yes, it was an inside job.

Many people have been muzzled, but totally silenced.

Now what?
As the gent. Scamp points out, the Big Baddies are gonna say,
"Wacha gonna dooabarit kid?"

Well, "ya can tread on a worm 'till it turns", as the saying goes.

The 'Worm" in above quote refers to a snake or dragon.
(The word "orm" is Swedish, from which worm is derived)

Those above must tread carefully,..

Sorry above typo,..."(not) silenced".
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Pentagon also proven to be an engineered scenario "simulating" large plane crash.

a) Lack of/minimal burn residue on "charred remains"

b) Unmoved/undamaged items in crash site 'atomization" zone of purported crashed airliner.

Items should have melted/charred/"atomized"/etc being within 10 metres of explosion.

c) No seismic correlation for purported event, (ie. the seismographs all show an explosion above, not on the ground, as in a crash into the (solid) ground or (solid) building.

d) Evidence of a small aircraft parts in "atomization" zone of Pentagon.
(Video evidence of a small craft hitting Pentagon followed by a double explosion).

e) Evidence of demolition within "atomization' zone prior to and subsequent to "crash" explosion and prior to photography.

A thousand evidences of government collusion and cover-up.

But, what motive?

Couldn't say it better myself...

Thank fuck the retards who actually believe in this utter nonsense don't fly planes for a living...

Why must people seek comfort from such conspiracies?