Thread: torture

Originally Posted by raycarey

well, after being tortured at guantanamo bay.

Define this torture will ya red?

...btw, digging in the dustbin these days are ya?
Desperation or what!

errr.....switch to your bifocals old timer....this story broke today.

Torture: An act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person, for a purpose such as obtaining information or a confession, punishment, intimidation or coercion, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind. Survivors of torture often suffer from physical and psychological symptoms and disabilities. There may be specific forms of physical injury including broken bones, neurological damage, and musculoskeletal problems. Torture may results in psychological symptoms of depression (most common), post-traumatic stress disorder, marked sleep disturbances and alterations in self-perceptions together with feelings of powerlessness, fear, guilt and shame.

Torture definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms

and

Fourth Geneva Convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and

United Nations Convention Against Torture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by raycarey

Survivors of torture often suffer from psychological symptoms

Like maybe this poor boy was subjected to Britney Spears at 110db or something?

Seen this all over the net (sorry if posted already):

Scalia: ‘Torture Is Not Punishment’

April 30, 2008

In an interview on last Sunday’s 60 Minutes, Leslie Stahl asked if the term “cruel and unusual punishment” applies to someone “being brutalized by a law enforcement person,” Scalia replied:

“To the contrary, has anybody ever referred to torture as punishment? I don’t think so.”

The exchange continued:

“Well, I think if you are in custody, and you have a policeman who’s taken you into custody…,” Stahl says.

“And you say he’s punishing you?” Scalia asks.

“Sure,” Stahl replies.

“What’s he punishing you for? You punish somebody…,” Scalia says.

“Well because he assumes you, one, either committed a crime…or that you know something that he wants to know,” Stahl says.

“It’s the latter. And when he’s hurting you in order to get information from you…you don’t say he’s punishing you. What’s he punishing you for? He’s trying to extract…,” Scalia says.

“Because he thinks you are a terrorist and he’s going to beat the you-know-what out of you…,” Stahl replies.

“Anyway, that’s my view,” Scalia says. “And it happens to be correct.”

Scalia torture punishment - Google News

Well, the charges were apparently dismissed “without prejudice,” which means double jeopardy considerations do not apply and they may be refiled.

Any idea how much it costs to house one of those scumbags for a year?
If he didn't have any dirt, you think they're going to keep him?

Too bad he wasn't a member of a country who declared war on the US. He might have been executed or tried earlier. Nope. Brutalized? Terrorized? Nope. Three weeks back in the fuckhole that is his home and he'll reminisce about his time in gitmo. Wonder if he picked up a keychain or a T-shirt?

^
Well, he won't be able to hide forever, eh?

I have said repeatedly that I intend to close Guantanamo and I will follow through on that, I have said repeatedly that American doesn't torture, and I am going to make sure we don't torture, those are part and parcel of efforts to regain America's moral stature, Obama said.

Obama: Stimulating economy top priority - CNN.com

welcome news.

And another one . . .


'Dark side of US counter-terrorism on trial - World - smh.com.au

Originally Posted by Texpat

If he didn't have any dirt, you think they're going to keep him?

Yeah, sure.
The fact that someone is held captive is by itself proof that he is guilty of something - yours is a Brave New World.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Three weeks back in the fuckhole that is his home and he'll reminisce about his time in gitmo.

You are not the elected spokesperson for GITMO inmates, nor anyone else, thank goodness. And this is not 'funny', either.

Wake up you softies It is a war!!!! Islam will reduce you to Dhimmi status

The mudslimes will beat you up---rape your wives and children and not give a damn.

IMO holder's decision doesn't help the obama administration, but for the sake of nation and its laws, he had to do it.

From this article, it doesn’t seem (much of) anything will come from these investigations.

Attorney General Eric Holder's decision to name a career prosecutor to investigate alleged CIA interrogation abuses would seem to fulfill a dramatic pledge he made last year when he was promoting the election of Barack Obama. "We owe the American people a reckoning," Holder said in a much-quoted speech that blasted the excesses of the Bush administration in its prosecution of the war on terror.


But while Holder's move in choosing John Durham to probe agency abuses has roiled the intelligence community and infuriated Republicans on Capitol Hill, it is far from clear that such a "reckoning" will ever come. The investigation Holder has directed Durham to conduct is sharply circumscribed. It won't involve the conduct of senior Bush officials who approved waterboarding and other "enhanced" interrogation techniques. In a statement Monday, Holder said it won't endanger any CIA operatives who relied "in good faith" on controversial Justice Department memos that gave the green light to such practices.


Instead, it will involve a "review" of "less than a dozen" cases of alleged abuse by individual CIA operatives and contractors that took place years ago, according to a senior official who asked not to be identified talking about what is about to become a criminal investigation. The operatives are alleged to have violated the letter, if not the spirit, of those Justice Department memos. But Justice Department officials acknowledge that Durham's review may never result in any prosecutions. Indeed, virtually all of them were previously examined by a special Justice Department task force and rejected for prosecution due to a lack of witnesses and evidence. "These are hard cases," said the senior official.


This will hardly satisfy human rights advocates and others who say the startling alleged abuses unveiled Monday with the release of a long-suppressed CIA inspector general’s report require a far more fundamental probe of how the U.S. government lost its moral compass in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.


"Simply anemic," said Anthony Romero, executive director of the ACLU about the scope of the new Justice probe.


Link: http://www.newsweek.com/id/213508

A teacher was telling me the other day how Thai teachers "torture" students ... I realized then how narrow the definiton had become for the PC types.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

A teacher was telling me the other day how Thai teachers "torture" students ... I realized then how narrow the definiton had become for the PC types.

Or, do you mean how "wide" the definition has become.

How do you know that this person was "PC?"

Good to see you around again though, SK.

Cheers.

Think about it Milky ... is it broad or is it narrow ? Seems to me it doesn't take much for a loon to holler out, "Torture" ...

^ Quite true.

For many things: including "commie, left-wing, pinko."

Again, good to see you back.

Ooooh ... hurt me bitch ...

^ We're in issues, sir. Again, I'm an seriously glad you're back.

I'm not back mate ... never will be again.