Thread: Are the Jews Responsible?

Originally Posted by kerux

Note that no racist comments will be tolerated - the title and various remarks are borderline.

Well, lets get thise settled right here and now: What is racist about asking if the Jews are responsible for starting most of the wars in the world?

And if no racist commments are going to be tolerated, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DELETE SEVERAL HUNDRED COMMENTS ABOUT MUSLIMS, BECAUSE THEY ARE FAIR GAME ON THIS FORUM. [Not to mention Christians].
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In this thread, you come across as an anti-semite, apart from everything else. No wonder you have no concept what constitutes racism.
A number of religious slurs have been deleted in the past, as they are equally unacceptable as racism.
However, we do not ban all negative comments relating to race nor religion - hence this topic has been left running for 3 pages now.

If it degenerates further, or if complains are made, it will go.

Originally Posted by RDN

Originally Posted by kerux

1 Did Mel Gibson’s comments, while drinking, "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," have an element of truth within them? 2 Have the Jews been responsible for many of the wars in the world?

"Vin Veneto Veritas" -- "with wine comes truth" 3 Did Gibson speak the truth and what many think but don't express?

4 Is the current war in Iraq, [at least in part - 5 did the Mossad help in the planning and execution of the WTC Demolition? which led to war in Iraq and Afghanitstan] caused by Israel controlling US policy and thus US actions? 6 Will the fear Israel has of Iran led to war?

7 Didn't the Jews get Britain to promise [the Balfour Declaration] the Jews Palestine in return for getting the US into WWI? 8 Didn't the impossible burden placed upon Germany post-WWI lead to WWII?

9 Wasn't sticking a Jewish nation in the center of the Arab world in land belonging to other Arabs create problem after problem for the rest of the world?

10 Isn't the fundamental Christians', who are Bush's core support [perhaps his only support] belief that the Jews are 'God's Chosen People' driving foreign policy?

‘My No. 1 priority in foreign policy is to protect Israel.’ Dick Armey, Christian Zionist

"There are a lot of guys at the working level up here’ [on Capitol Hill] ‘who happen to be Jewish, who are willing . . . to look at certain issues in terms of their Jewishness . . . These are all guys who are in a position to make the decision in these areas for those senators . . . You can get an awful lot done just at the staff level.’ Morris Amitay, a former head of AIPAC

11 Does the most powerful lobby in the US have too much influence on US foreign policy and the president, the indiviudal senators and the representatives of the American citizens?

12 Do the Jews cause most of the war in the world?

You ask a lot of questions - 12 in your first post. I'll ask you one: Is that little dot under your post count ever going to turn green?

Sorry to say but your question has got nothing to do with his questions. I thought you were a mod and responsible for keeping things civil in the issues section?

When there's nothing uncivil to act on, mods add their own comments as they se fit. Thanks.

Btw, do "Jews" cause most of the war in the world?
I'd say most wars originating in the Western hemisphere have been caused by Christians in the last 2000 years, most European rulers were devout Christians, most 20th century presidents and prime ministers, including Hitler, were Christian, too.
Bush is a devout Christian, to name the last in line...

Does it really make sense to question the religion or race of who's involved in warfare?

Originally Posted by stroller

Does it really make sense to question the religion or race of who's involved in warfare?

the most quotable line in a while.

although it answers itself it might be worth noting that no, it doesnt make sense.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I disagree with your title. The Jews are not responsible, but modern Israel is.

The Jews are not slaughtering Palestinians, Israel is. You can't throw all jews in the same pot as the Israeli murderers.

Once more, you are misleading the issue here. It's not a jewish issue per se.

Buttfly...let me take a bow.
That brainsurgery did make a new man out of you.

I'am proud of you and hope you don't need to lay on that operating table again.

Good luck for the future.

Hey Kerux

How many Nobel prizes were won by jews?

Answer is coming soon...!

Your sad ass would probably not even be here if it was'nt for a jew.

I'd say most wars originating in the Western hemisphere have been caused by Christians in the last 2000 years,

Care to actually post some facts to support what you 'say?'

And please keep in mind Roman Catholicism is not Christian, it's Roman Catholicism. It has imitated and assimilated the appearances of some Christian practices and the nomenclature, but is not Christian no more than Mormonism is.

Denial of the Holocaust counts as anti-Semitism. Do you?

Explain why denial of the holocaust is anti-Semitism.

Originally Posted by kerux

And please keep in mind Roman Catholicism is not Christian, it's Roman Catholicism. It has imitated and assimilated the appearances of some Christian practices and the nomenclature, but is not Christian no more than Mormonism is.

Decided by whom ?
Again you are showing a typical holier-than-you behaviour that we so often see from religious people.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered on Jesus of Nazareth, and on his life and teachings as presented in the New Testament.

In fact the Roman Catholic church is the original church. They are the ones that chose which gospels would make the bible. So, the book you rever is a Roman Catholic creation.

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by kerux

And please keep in mind Roman Catholicism is not Christian, it's Roman Catholicism. It has imitated and assimilated the appearances of some Christian practices and the nomenclature, but is not Christian no more than Mormonism is.

Decided by whom ?
Again you are showing a typical holier-than-you behaviour that we so often see from religious people.

Christianity is a monotheistic religion centered on Jesus of Nazareth, and on his life and teachings as presented in the New Testament.

Christianity is defined by the New Testament and not some encyclopedia. Christianity is not a religion.

Roman Catholicism is not Christianity.

And this is not "typical holier-than-you behaviour' it's fact.

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

In fact the Roman Catholic church is the original church. They are the ones that chose which gospels would make the bible. So, the book you rever is a Roman Catholic creation.

No. The original church is found in Acts. And it has absolutely nothing to do with the Roman Catholic Church. And the Bible was the Bible long before the RCC came along.

The Book I read is God's creation, not the RCC's.

And those are the facts. Check them.

"Explain why denial of the holocaust is anti-Semitism."

Once again, a request I made didn't get answered, and instead several strawmen were put forth.

Back to the request.

"Explain why denial of the holocaust is anti-Semitism.

The Roman Catholic church is the church of St. Peter whom Jesus I believe entrusted him to spread the word.
The Roman Catholic church is the original church. This is a historical fact. It was there before the bible as we know it existed.

Originally Posted by kerux

Explain why denial of the holocaust is anti-Semitism.

Well, what's your stake on the issue ? did it happen ? even if the numbers is not 6 million, what is a good acceptable number for you ? or you don't believe it happened at all ?

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

The Roman Catholic church is the church of St. Peter whom Jesus I believe entrusted him to spread the word.
The Roman Catholic church is the original church. This is a historical fact. It was there before the bible as we know it existed.

You couldn't be more wrong.

It's not a historical fact.

It wasn't there before the bible as we know it existed.

You are talking about something you have only gained by hearsay. Becareful here Sir Burr.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by kerux

Explain why denial of the holocaust is anti-Semitism.

Well, what's your stake on the issue ? did it happen ? even if the numbers is not 6 million, what is a good acceptable number for you ? or you don't believe it happened at all ?

Why are you avoiding this?

"Explain why denial of the holocaust is anti-Semitism."

Originally Posted by kerux

I'd say most wars originating in the Western hemisphere have been caused by Christians in the last 2000 years,

Care to actually post some facts to support what you 'say?'

And please keep in mind Roman Catholicism is not Christian, it's Roman Catholicism.
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Most wars originating in the Western hemisphere have been caused by Christians (in the sense of the term as commonly understood and defined in dictionaries and encyclopadia) in the last 2000 years, most European rulers were devout Christians, most 20th century presidents and prime ministers, including Hitler, were Christian, too.
Bush is a devout Christian, to name the last in line...

For confirmation, pick up any general history book.

You have been wrong about "the Jews".
It is people who believe in the bible, just like yourself, who start wars.

Originally Posted by kerux

Why are you avoiding this?

I didn't say it was. I just asked another question but you dodge it. Afraid to answer it ?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by kerux

Why are you avoiding this?

I didn't say it was. I just asked another question but you dodge it. Afraid to answer it ?

Me? afraid to answer a question?

I'm waiting for an answer to a reasonable question is all before I reply.

I'd also like babystroller to tell us what racism is he hasn't done that either to may knowledge.