Thread: What makes terrorists?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by mad_dog

And when paedophile American troops rape and murder a child and then kill her entire family it is Al Qaeda's fault. Your logic is flawless.

No, it's collateral damage. The troops need their fun too.

Yuk yuk I hope you like my post.

How do you prevent people from becoming terrorists? Provide more opportunities for them to work so they have the self-respect which is generated from knowing they provide for their family. People with full stomachs don't rebel. I thought the Iraqi reconstruction program would do this but I guess there isn't enough jobs for the hunreds of thousands of unemployeed Iraqi soldiers - a major mistake. The US should have kept the Iraqi army intact and stationed on bases, at least the US Army would know where they were at. Someday neo-cons, Pearle and Wolfowitz, willl get their public dressing down.

Anyways, people with full stomachs and who have a sense of self-worth are less likely to seek change. So that's one of the ways to keep some people from becoming terrorists. How to keep the impressionable youth from being bamboozled by those who would use them, I don't know some kids are foolish and some are self-destructive. Living in a culture based on violence and death like the Palestinains propogate is tough on their children.

The topic took off so fast I haven't had a chance to read all of the posts. For sure some people feel justified in their acts because they have had their family's land taken from them or had a clan member killed. Or they feel humiliated because throughout history they have always been in the position of power when it comes to jewish people. They believe the 'people of the book' have become westernized and moved far away from God. They can't stand that Jews (who are tolerant of homosexuality and pornography) are in a position of power and they, being more righteous and more obedient to God, are not. They've been taught they are close to God and occupy a special place which should be at the head of things, not to be at the head is humiliating to them and disrespectful to their God because disrespecting God can be the only thing to explain it.

Some of the terrorists just want to belong to something, they want the camradery, they want the power and they want what they interpret to be respect from people who fear them. Some are not much more than the losers in life; ne'r-do-wells, thugs, criminals. people of low intelligence who crave a higher status. Zarqqawi fits that description: criminal sadist murderer. Maybe their family at home is dysfunctioanl so they join the gang to escape being on the receiving end of violence or sexual abuse.
Sexually repressed societies express all sorts of problems. I really am convinced the headsawers have some sort of sexually repressed illness. Why hasn't some psychologist published a paper on the phenomena? Some of the terrorists are the losers and misfits of society who belong to nothing so they form a subculture where they are accepted and they develop an ideology to justify their behavior and perhaps to gain sympathy and support. Others are idealistic youth. Rebels always prey on youth's idealism and vacillating hormones.

One of the 911 terrroists felt he didn't fit in while living and studying in Germany. Perhaps he should have studied in America. Our universities don't breed Muslim terrorists as of yet. There's something about European culture that leaves Muslims out and makes Muslims feel they aren't integrated. American Muslims don't feel so alienated that they violently demand that they and their culture be respected. But that's another topic: What is it about the European economy and culture that Muslims fail to integrate into it? People want to become Americans. Maybe we don't push muticulturalism so much that people feel like they don't belong to the whole.

As far as the pics of dead children go as long as they use their children as weapons and shields I won't join in the moral outrage parade over dead children. The Palestians should safeguard their women and children by moving them away from the fighting.

The Palestians and Iraqis seem to take it further than their opponents which surprises me, since they say they are closer to God. What is their God all about? Or is it just their culture? But then Allah makes up a huge part of their lives or so they profess. When it gets down to it they are using Allah to justify their behavior so I can't blame their God Their culture is the problem.

children with guns

A man with his hands steeped in human blood jewish blood applauded by those in a crowd of 1000 people.

A man suspected of being a collaborator is shot in the street (like a dog?) w/o a trial.
People take cellphone pics of him.
A woman stomps him.
Who really knows why he was killed perhaps his killers owed him money and they didn't want to pay. Them being armed members of Islamic Jihad it allows them to say whatever they want about the man. Maybe he slighted them. It all looks like entertainment for the people who have gathered. They entertain themselves with street theatre.

They tell themselves it's all Insh'Allah. Their culture excuses them because Insh'Allah. Anyone remember Flip Wilson the American comedian? He had a running gag where he'd say, "The Devil made me do it!' Well, the Palestinians and the Iraqis give themselves up (translation: take no responsibility for their individual actions) to their God and they say Insh' Allah. Some posters say Islam is the problem. It is part of the problem because people attribute everything to Allah so they relieve themselves of responsibility. Allah gets all the credit and Allah gets all the blame. Well no he doesn't get the blame because there is no judging Allah's actions. So sometimes with Allah shit happens and that's just how it goes. No one is responsible. Insh'Allah. Giving up one's freedom and responsibilities to God makes it very easy to give up the same to dictators. They are conditioned. The system of government fits right in with the religious program they are on.

What is it about the added touch, that extra signature mark, of gouging out the eyes and using a power drill to bore holes into people while they are alive? How is that equivalent to a US soldier firing a weapon from 5000 feet or twenty feet? We had the KKK terrorizing in the south and the government put a stop to it. Last month a guy in Texas dragged his gf behind his car. If found guilty he'll get life in prison or the death penalty. The soldiers who raped that girl and burned her body will get the death penalty or life in a military prison after a trial. Here this Palestianian guy was suspected of being an Israeli collaborator he was killed in the streeet like a dog. No trial, laughed at, photographed with cell phones and stomped by an old women. The Palestian culture approves of it. Sure the KKK mentality and the violence of their hate is just under the surface in parts of the US. But it is kept down. It's not applauded and it doesn't head the government like HAMAS does.

Someone mention the Amish forgiveness. What did people post in this topic? Kill them and their families, women and children. There's your difference. I'd go after those who commited the crime and if they were in the military I'd take it to other troops. I wouldn't seek to escalate it by killing women and children. The uber-men said kill everyone including the women and children. There's your problem. For them revenge is justice. They think revenge is the work of the righteous. Arab culture says revenge is justice and failure to extract revenge directly relfects on your manhood and leaves you open to being the cabin boy amongst your peers.

I won't let anyone convince me of some sort of equivalency between a US soldier shooting a weapon and a Palestinain steeping their hands in human blood or an Iraqi using a power drill to bore into someone's flesh.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by mad_dog

So Americans cheering when their enemies are blown up is ok but it is animal like if Muslims do it?

Perhaps even you can distinguish a difference between the death of Adolf Hitler and the people who died on 9/11/01?

Sorry Mr Earl. He can not distinguish the difference. Too me that is a serious concern since he is suppose to be a teacher.

Again. I never made the comparison.

What makes a terrorist?

People make terrorists & it starts at birth.

Children in Islam

Parental love is instinctive both in animals and in humans. These pictures are to show the level of brainwashing that it takes to make a parent harm and mutilate his own toddler to appease his imaginary deity.

A Shiite mother rejoices after inflicting wounds on the head of her toddler

A father cutting his son to bleed as penitence for the killing of Imam Hussein

A loving father teaching "religious values" to his son, Islamic way.

A proud mother watching her son bleed. The more pain the greater the reward. After this she is assured of paradise.