The moderation thread

[keda]

A dislike doesn't justify lying to smear someone's reputation.

You're unlikely to earn any respect for that.

Yet your dislike of me does, right? Crikey, you really are shallower than I imagined.

Is that an insult and worthy of deletion?

[stroller]

^
That's not an insult.

It's not me who has been lying or 'forgot' to read pms before going ballistic.

[stroller]

Thanks for calming down, keda.

You could have pm-ed me for clarification, instead of going ballistic in public.

You are still misrepresenting my communication with you - that's not very clever, as proof exists of what I have said to you.

Pfffhhh, all because I deleted an off-topic one-liner and you weren't happy with it.

Is this worth the effort, keda?

Ok, there are some genuine questions:

sTROLLer, what is an 'official warning'?

It is the step before your posting rights in Issues get suspended for a limited period.

Is it the equivalent of or does it have anything to do with my receipt from somebody of PMs and other offboard comments that I am told may not revealed in the public area and that doing so would be breach of etiquette?

No, it's for reposting a comment containing insults and off-topic material, and posting further insults and lies concerning mod action.
Pms: re-read them, I didn't say posting them is disallowed, it's bad etiquette what won't usually be seen as an offense.

As to your invitation for constructive criticism of mods, isn't it both constructive and criticism to suggest you have conducted yourself these past few days as a despot, that you have simply deleted and otherwise avoided responding to first fair requests and then fair demands that you explain your initial lie, which kicked this off, and that your subsequent actions, often supported by a certain unnamed sidekick, have exarcerbated the situation? If I am being unreasonable, please say so and explain why, rather than flex your modmuscles with the delete button.

It is unreasonable to make unsubstantiated accusations, as you have done. I had very good reasons to delete all 3 of your posts and explained them to you. I even suggested a room where your repo-comments and ensueing insults would be appropriate.

This indicates that you did use kerux to justify your childish deletion of my post,...

Not at all, re-read my explanations.

Note: I logged in a few minutes ago to 3 PMs by the same person, two sent earlier which I had not read before posting the last of my deleted posts, and the 3rd drawing my attention to and adding to the first two.

I accept this as an apology.

if kerux did not tell you my countup was taunting him, then you did lie, and in doing so you become a liar, like it or not.

I never said he did, I assessed from my own perspective, that it classifies as taunting him as well as being completely off-topic.

....This does mean, of course, that anybody may use or abuse the private areas of TD for anything they would rather not say openly, and importantly that the recipient is not allowed to respond by moving such an issue into the public area.

As I adviced you already, there is a repo thread where you may discuss the repos you receive, you may even insult B'fly, myself or whoever you like without me batting an eyelid - but not in this thread.

If anybody puts a name or person to an action, and happens to be spot on, that is purely coincidental.

It's not "co-incidental", it's ok. I'd also be ok about you posting my pms on this occasion, if it's important to you.

I hope at least some of this is satisfying, dude, I've really made an effort now.
Peace!

[keda]

Yep, do the smoke and mirrors bit, point elsewhere in the hope others follow your finger rather than your amply demonstrated character...btw, we're getting there, albeit slowly, and you've just confirmed it was you who sent me at least 2 of the 3 PMs...crikey, next you'll be confessing to all three...still, it's a start.

[stroller]

edited, maybe he didn't read my previous comment before posting.

[ChiangMai noon]

oh dear.

[keda]

Thanks for calming down, keda.

You could have pm-ed me for clarification, instead of going ballistic in public.

You could have manufactured a plausible reason for deleting my post - without fibbing! - and also held a tighter reign on your sidekick. How is it you still refuse to concede that you lied in order to justify deleting that first post, and yet further on do just that?

You are still misrepresenting my communication with you - that's not very clever, as proof exists of what I have said to you.

With you of all people daring to mention the word proof, why do you not release that proof into the public area, to show I lied, not you? I have no reason to lie...you kicked it off...but if you honestly belief I did, then we can set aside etiquette on the understanding you agree to not edit or otherwise interfere with what was sent, so that everything reaches the forum as it reached me, including the contributions made by your attack dog. Oh yes, give me your word and I will accept it, seeing as I have 2 copies of all relevant PMs and reds, though not the first of the deleted posts, since I did not expect you to strike so fast.

Pfffhhh, all because I deleted an off-topic one-liner and you weren't happy with it.

Is this worth the effort, keda?

sTROLLer, what is an 'official warning'?

It is the step before your posting rights in Issues get suspended for a limited period.

So why do you not suspend me, for precociously invoking rights that I clearly do not have, and after receiving a public warning!? Are you giving me another chance? - to what, repent?? Might as well save us all the bandwidth and fire away!

Is it the equivalent of or does it have anything to do with my receipt from somebody of PMs and other offboard comments that I am told may not revealed in the public area and that doing so would be breach of etiquette?

No, it's for reposting a comment containing insults and off-topic material, and posting further insults and lies concerning mod action.
Pms: re-read them, I didn't say posting them is disallowed, it's bad etiquette what won't usually be seen as an offense.

What lies? Are you calling me a liar because it turns out you justified deleting my first post with a lie? Is that the childish response you instinctively resort to, even in the public area? Why did you not call me a liar before, and why do I need to lie? As I said, smoke and mirrors...you have painted yourself into a corner and find that you either have to 'punish' me, despite your earlier assurance that I need fear no such thing, or confess you are less than supermod, the while reserving reprisals for some other time, when the matter has died down and hopefully forgotten by most.

As to your invitation for constructive criticism of mods, isn't it both constructive and criticism to suggest you have conducted yourself these past few days as a despot, that you have simply deleted and otherwise avoided responding to first fair requests and then fair demands that you explain your initial lie, which kicked this off, and that your subsequent actions, often supported by a certain unnamed sidekick, have exarcerbated the situation? If I am being unreasonable, please say so and explain why, rather than flex your modmuscles with the delete button.

It is unreasonable to make unsubstantiated accusations, as you have done. I had very good reasons to delete all 3 of your posts and explained them to you. I even suggested a room where your repo-comments and ensueing insults would be appropriate.

Was it only 3 posts you deleted, up until the time of the post I am responding to? I give you the credit, at least, for now setting aside your 'solution' button for long enough to respond, albeit reluctantly.

This indicates that you did use kerux to justify your childish deletion of my post,...

Not at all, re-read my explanations.

Your explanations, note the plural, indicate my fault for going ballistic, not yours for the dig and the lie - so what is this about if only...huh? If only what, if only you made a half-hearted attempt to give a sensible explanation rather than stay invisibly banging away at the delete button, it need not have developed into a direct confrontation. If only, if only you had kept Biffo on a tighter lead...if only you did not attempt to use the delete button to cover up your imperfections...if only...

Note: I logged in a few minutes ago to 3 PMs by the same person, two sent earlier which I had not read before posting the last of my deleted posts, and the 3rd drawing my attention to and adding to the first two.

I accept this as an apology.

Cocky b*st*rd - accept it as whatever you want but whatever possesses you to take it as an apology, that's one thing it aint. I have nothing to apologise for, except fairly speaking my mind?

if kerux did not tell you my countup was taunting him, then you did lie, and in doing so you become a liar, like it or not.

I never said he did, I assessed from my own perspective, that it classifies as taunting him as well as being completely off-topic.

I shall accept that as your apology, that you lied, albeit in good faith, and that your concern was unselfish and entirely altruistic in protecting kerux from what you overzealously perceived to be a taunt that he might misread and thus end up terminally traumatised.

[keda]

...or worse!

[Butterfly]

I am confused, if you don't care that much for the reds, why make such a public case, like it was Perry Mason ? do you have too much free time keda ?

Funny how you turn your vicious attention to another mod as soon as you found out that I wasn't a mod anymore, while making a fool of yourself publicly.

If you are not happy in the "Issues" forum, why don't you fuckoff to the Captain Lounge instead and open a "I am a 12 yr old girl with wet panties" thread ?

you are a bigger nutcase than Kerux btw.

[stroller]

Are you mentally challenged, keda?

Or Kerux's alter ego, by any chance?

[dirtydog]

Within 6 months he has taken it from being the least popular forum to one of the most popular.

How you can credit him with that ?

Well it was his idea, he runs it and selected the MOD team to help him, as CMN said prior to this most of the threads degenerated into a slagfest.
So what if you have a post or two deleted, it's just a forum for fuck sake not the end of the world....just get over it.
If stroll was really as biased as you all make out then why does'nt he shut these threads down ?

As far as I am concerned stroller gets just about all the credit for this forum, he had to dump hundreds of threads that were not suitable which brought it down to 20 threads when he took over, he had to sort out his own mod team, basically he restarted issues from nothing and now it is probably the second most posted on section.

I should add that on other areas of this forum even some of my posts get trashed and you don't see me whinging about it, of course next time I am in XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX area I shall probably burn down his house and torture all his animals

[keda]

I am confused, if you don't care that much for the reds, why make such a public case, like it was Perry Mason ? do you have too much free time keda ?

Funny how you turn your vicious attention to another mod as soon as you found out that I wasn't a mod anymore, while making a fool of yourself publicly.

If you are not happy in the "Issues" forum, why don't you fuckoff to the Captain Lounge instead and open a "I am a 12 yr old girl with wet panties" thread ?

you are a bigger nutcase than Kerux btw.

Not at all, flutterby, don't flatter yourself...in case it conveniently slipped your notice why don't you ask stroller why he deleted some of my posts...he might tell you it was precisely because I did not cease telling you what I thought of you, but as it was in the mod's thread this was deemed off topic.

So, ruff ruff, down boy! - you're not half as frightening or as consequential as you imagine yourself to be.

As to being a bigger nutcase than Kerux, seeing as you confess to almost but not quite making it into the modtower, and according to you would have if you didn't persistently give somebody a hardon or something like that, there's an outside chance somebody showed you where the ignore button is.

I would much rather be on your ignore list than that of a religious freak. By the way thanks for reminding me...kerux, it'll be 12 days tomorrow...how long is my time out??

[keda]

Within 6 months he has taken it from being the least popular forum to one of the most popular.

How you can credit him with that ?

Well it was his idea, he runs it and selected the MOD team to help him, as CMN said prior to this most of the threads degenerated into a slagfest.
So what if you have a post or two deleted, it's just a forum for fuck sake not the end of the world....just get over it.
If stroll was really as biased as you all make out then why does'nt he shut these threads down ?

As far as I am concerned stroller gets just about all the credit for this forum, he had to dump hundreds of threads that were not suitable which brought it down to 20 threads when he took over, he had to sort out his own mod team, basically he restarted issues from nothing and now it is probably the second most posted on section.

I should add that on other areas of this forum even some of my posts get trashed and you don't see me whinging about it, of course next time I am in XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX area I shall probably burn down his house and torture all his animals

You do that, DD, and don't forget his butterfly collection.

[dirtydog]

Keda, they look like pms you are posting, I assume you got the permission from the sender to post them on the forum.................

[stroller]

He's got my permission to post what I sent him.

I wish he'd post all of my pms, just to make a complete fool of himself.

[keda]

DD I posted 1 PM verbatim, then was informed by stroller this is a nono and grovelled appropriately...also, I disagree with your remark that Issues is TD's No 2 forum, I believe it's No 1, but that does not mean its mod/s are infallible.

[Thetyim]

that does not mean its mod/s are infallible.

No-one is infallible. Fact of life. Live with it.

If you cannot live with having one of you posts deleted then you shouldn't be posting on any forums

[dirtydog]

how many billions of dollars has America invested in the space shuttle? employing the top scientists, the top engineers, training the pilots for years, how many have blown up?

[stroller]

I am not infallible, but I object to being called a Liar.

I moderate in good faith.

[barbaro]

I think Stroller has been very conscientious and careful in his modding.

He's done a lot of work.

Stroller and the other mods take modding very seriously and try to be fair as possible to everyone.

Of course, it won't always be perceived this way.

It's not easy and everyone can have a different perception.

[Thetyim]

I disagree with your remark that Issues is TD's No 2 forum, I believe it's No 1,

How can you disagree with it ?
Or are you one of those people who just likes to disagree

DD owns the forum he knows what the post counts are.

[stroller]

No 1 in his esteem perhaps, he seems to like it despite the dictatorial moderating which gets his insults deleted.

[keda]

Yep, despite the dictatorial modding.

[Storekeeper]

Keda, they look like pms you are posting, I assume you got the permission from the sender to post them on the forum.................

Why should he ? Are PMs protected under some type of forum Privacy Act ?

If I ask him to forward me strollers abusive PMs then he should be able to send me them under some sort of forum Freedom of Information Act.

[friscofrankie]

only after forms (four copies, please) are filled out in triplicate and forwarded to the FBI, CIA, NSA and TeakDoorLand Security