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    Boehner blocking a bipartisan bill has nothing to do with,my question is why does America need immigration reform.
    Because America has been happily using cheap labour for decades, and many of the so-called anchor babies are legal citizens.

    It is both unfair and reprehensible to break up families just to appease a bunch of rabid right wing retards, especially when the parents of these folk have probably spent their time working and paying taxes all their lives without ever being able to claim any benefits as a result.
    If you would have read my post you would see that I addressed the deportation issue with a simple law that would give current illegals the right to stay but no citizenship.
    What do you think of the Immigration bill that Boehner refused to put to a vote, knowing that the Senate had already passed it, and Congress was almost certain to?

    The key provisions are here:

    Key provisions of the Senate bipartisan immigration bill - The Washington Post

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    Boehner blocking a bipartisan bill has nothing to do with,my question is why does America need immigration reform.
    Because America has been happily using cheap labour for decades, and many of the so-called anchor babies are legal citizens.

    It is both unfair and reprehensible to break up families just to appease a bunch of rabid right wing retards, especially when the parents of these folk have probably spent their time working and paying taxes all their lives without ever being able to claim any benefits as a result.
    If you would have read my post you would see that I addressed the deportation issue with a simple law that would give current illegals the right to stay but no citizenship.
    What do you think of the Immigration bill that Boehner refused to put to a vote, knowing that the Senate had already passed it, and Congress was almost certain to?

    The key provisions are here:

    Key provisions of the Senate bipartisan immigration bill - The Washington Post


    As it would have provided a path to citizenship I can't say I agreed with it, the other thing I found fault with is the border security provision, I don't feel it would be enough to stop illegals.
    Why not just pass a short bill giving legal status to those in the U.S. illegally, and appropriate money to build the wall and be done with it?

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    Boehner blocking a bipartisan bill has nothing to do with,my question is why does America need immigration reform.
    Because America has been happily using cheap labour for decades, and many of the so-called anchor babies are legal citizens.

    It is both unfair and reprehensible to break up families just to appease a bunch of rabid right wing retards, especially when the parents of these folk have probably spent their time working and paying taxes all their lives without ever being able to claim any benefits as a result.
    If you would have read my post you would see that I addressed the deportation issue with a simple law that would give current illegals the right to stay but no citizenship.
    What do you think of the Immigration bill that Boehner refused to put to a vote, knowing that the Senate had already passed it, and Congress was almost certain to?

    The key provisions are here:

    Key provisions of the Senate bipartisan immigration bill - The Washington Post


    As it would have provided a path to citizenship I can't say I agreed with it, the other thing I found fault with is the border security provision, I don't feel it would be enough to stop illegals.
    Why not just pass a short bill giving legal status to those in the U.S. illegally, and appropriate money to build the wall and be done with it?
    If you are going to give them "legal status" why not just give them citizenship?

    What is the difference?

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    Because America has been happily using cheap labour for decades, and many of the so-called anchor babies are legal citizens.

    It is both unfair and reprehensible to break up families just to appease a bunch of rabid right wing retards, especially when the parents of these folk have probably spent their time working and paying taxes all their lives without ever being able to claim any benefits as a result.
    If you would have read my post you would see that I addressed the deportation issue with a simple law that would give current illegals the right to stay but no citizenship.
    What do you think of the Immigration bill that Boehner refused to put to a vote, knowing that the Senate had already passed it, and Congress was almost certain to?

    The key provisions are here:

    Key provisions of the Senate bipartisan immigration bill - The Washington Post


    As it would have provided a path to citizenship I can't say I agreed with it, the other thing I found fault with is the border security provision, I don't feel it would be enough to stop illegals.
    Why not just pass a short bill giving legal status to those in the U.S. illegally, and appropriate money to build the wall and be done with it?
    If you are going to give them "legal status" why not just give them citizenship?

    What is the difference?

    Voting privileges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Voting privileges.
    Ah, of course, that's what you're afraid of.

    And fictitious voter fraud.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Voting privileges.
    Ah, of course, that's what you're afraid of.

    And fictitious voter fraud.

    Have you ever seen where I have posted anything about voter fraud on this or any other thread on speakers corner, let me answer that for you, no.i don't see a voter fraud problem in America, at the same time I do not see a problem with picture ID to vote.

    You liberals can't seem to understand, America is a country of laws illegals are not in the U.S. legally, hence the term illegals.
    the only two reasons I would vote to give them legal status: 1 I don't think tearing families apart is right, 2 I believe that removing 11 million people is not possible.
    Giving them legal status is more than they are legally entitled to, citizenship and voting rights out of the question. Even felons who are citizens loose their voting rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
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    Voting privileges.
    Ah, of course, that's what you're afraid of.

    And fictitious voter fraud.

    Have you ever seen where I have posted anything about voter fraud on this or any other thread on speakers corner, let me answer that for you, no.i don't see a voter fraud problem in America, at the same time I do not see a problem with picture ID to vote.

    You liberals can't seem to understand, America is a country of laws illegals are not in the U.S. legally, hence the term illegals.
    the only two reasons I would vote to give them legal status: 1 I don't think tearing families apart is right, 2 I believe that removing 11 million people is not possible.
    Giving them legal status is more than they are legally entitled to, citizenship and voting rights out of the question. Even felons who are citizens loose their voting rights.
    The point is that your country has welcomed the majority of these illegals for years as a source of cheap labour. They have built their homes and their families by working for your benefit.

    You talk about morals, well the morally appropriate thing to do is to give them citizenship, and the Bipartisan bill did all of that with sufficient caveats to weed out the undesirables.

    Both parties would have sailed this bill through but one man, at the mercy of the bickering teabaggers, put a stop to it.

    The fact that a bunch of hysterical, screaming right wing nut jobs can bring your country's political system to its knees should be of more concern to you than Miguel or Juanita getting a green card.

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