Quote Originally Posted by sabang
The thing about this 'Blame game' is it is entirely impartial, a two edged coin. One can blame both Palestine and Israel for the occupation of Palestine. One can blame both AQ and the US for 911. Both Islamic militants and the invasion of Iraq for the Bali/ Madrid/ London bombings. And Western Islamophobia or Islam for the Park Place controversy.

I agree, a good point made, Sabang.


The thing that concerns me, although i am not affected directly, is the creeping influence of the Islamic faith into what may be described as civilised moderate countries.

It may prove difficult for citizens of these countries, although tolerant, to relate closely to muslims who are indoctrinated at a young age and spend much of their time in prayer, even devoting their life to it.

I regard such indoctrination as repressive. It may also be difficult to describe such brainwashing, training, coaching, call it what you will, as 'moderation'.

The Iman Raul has been labeled a moderate which for a person devoted to indoctrination, conversion of non believers to become Muslims and follow the Islamic faith, i find quite contradictory. It would seem that if you are not a practising Islamic terrorist then you must be a 'moderate'. I fear that the word 'moderation' is hardly appropriate for a religion such as Islam which in itself fails to accept any form of alternative religion.
It has a religious following that is authoritarian, cruel and brutal on occasions and really one has to say that as such it may be appropriate to mention that it has no place in the modern world, especially within tolerant more moderate countries. I do not feel that it is for these countries to fit in with the Islamic faith, much the reverse. Islam must become more tolerant to the non believers.

The 'freedom of religion' constitution in the US, must surely only apply to those religions that practise peace and understanding and which includes no oppressive traits in their teachings. It unquestionably would be seen as detrimental to the citizens of any country to permit such behaviour.

I feel it is important to have a mind of ones own and whilst it is an advantage to be a good listener one must always be capable of forming ones own opinion (right or wrong) about what matters in life. It would appear that the followers of the Islamic faith have no such opportunity.