The Nanny State

**panama hat** · 28-08-2015, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by panama hat

He's not the one . . .

Please explain...

Your answer speaks volumes

**Boon Mee** · 28-08-2015, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by panama hat

He's not the one . . .

Please explain...

Your answer speaks volumes

You seem to be confused...as usual...

**Black Heart** · 28-08-2015, 10:15 PM

Don't sell Lemonade in the Summer. The ye ol' tradition for kids. The cops will called - and they will shut it down!

Jerry Seinfeld’s Family Lemonade Stand Shut Down By Police On L.I.; Instagram Post Goes Viral

EAST HAMPTON, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) — Jerry Seinfeld recently had to deal with some drama in the Hamptons.

And this drama didn’t have anything to do with awkward situations between George and his girlfriend, or Kramer inadvertently stealing lobsters from a professional trap. This was the real Jerry Seinfeld in 2015 and his wife, Jessica – in a dustup over a lemonade stand.

Jessica Seinfeld posted a photo to Instagram after their son, Julian and two of his friends had their lemonade stand reportedly shut down by East Hampton police back on Tuesday, Aug 18.

The photo shows an East Hampton police squad car in the back, with Jerry Seinfeld, son Julian, and two of his friends identified as Xander and Jaden with their hands jokingly behind their heads.

A neighbor had complained about illegally parked cars, according to the East Hampton Press. Upon arrival, police told the Seinfelds that lemonade stands may not
be operated on village property, the newspaper reported.

“Lemonade dreams crushed by local neighbor, but not before raising lots of money for @loverecycled,” Jessica Schneider wrote in part in the caption for the Instagram photo. “Thanks to all of our customers and big tippers!”

“It’s really pathetic that people would call the cops over this. And it’s even more pathetic that cops shut it down,” another wrote.

But some users made light of the situation. One wrote, “thwarted by Newman again,” referring to Seinfeld’s nemesis played by Wayne Knight on his eponymous show.

The money was raised for Jessica Seinfeld’s “Baby Buggy” charity, the newspaper reported.

The Seinfelds are part-time residents of East Hampton, the newspaper reported.

Jerry Seinfeld?s Family Lemonade Stand Shut Down By Police On L.I. « CBS New York[

**Boon Mee** · 29-08-2015, 05:54 AM

Lemonaide stands getting shut down all across America?

WTF, Chuck? The cops have nothing better to do?

**Nawtier** · 29-08-2015, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Got a real doozy of an example where the Nanny State out of control again:

DETROIT – A suburban Detroit official is trying to extinguish the use of personal flamethrowers, which are being sold online by two Midwest companies, in his city.

The companies, located in the Detroit area and Cleveland, claim their devices can be used for recreation or to control weeds and insect hives, clear snow and ice, clear brush and start a bonfire.

Warren Mayor Jim Fouts calls the proposed uses “pretty specious” and “silly,” the Detroit Free Press (A right to own flamethrowers? Warren mayor wants them banned ) reported. Fouts wants to ban the storage, use and possession of flamethrowers in Warren because he believes the devices are dangerous and could damage property and cause house fires, injury or death.

“You know something like this will be used by bad people for bad things,” Fouts said, adding that he thought it was “unthinkable” such a device would be sold to the general public."

Detroit-area mayor seeks citywide ban on personal flamethrowers due to safety concerns | Fox News

Used by bad people for bad things?

No flaming allowed in this thread

**Boon Mee** · 29-08-2015, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Nawtier

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Got a real doozy of an example where the Nanny State out of control again:

DETROIT – A suburban Detroit official is trying to extinguish the use of personal flamethrowers, which are being sold online by two Midwest companies, in his city.

The companies, located in the Detroit area and Cleveland, claim their devices can be used for recreation or to control weeds and insect hives, clear snow and ice, clear brush and start a bonfire.

Warren Mayor Jim Fouts calls the proposed uses “pretty specious” and “silly,” the Detroit Free Press (A right to own flamethrowers? Warren mayor wants them banned ) reported. Fouts wants to ban the storage, use and possession of flamethrowers in Warren because he believes the devices are dangerous and could damage property and cause house fires, injury or death.

“You know something like this will be used by bad people for bad things,” Fouts said, adding that he thought it was “unthinkable” such a device would be sold to the general public."

Detroit-area mayor seeks citywide ban on personal flamethrowers due to safety concerns | Fox News

Used by bad people for bad things?

No flaming allowed in this thread

Or any threads for that matter...

**Boon Mee** · 01-09-2015, 07:21 AM

Update to the earlier Lemonaide Stand Shutdown:

Cops Shutdown Jerry Seinfeld; What's Up with Lemonade Stands? (Nanny of the Month, Aug ‘15)

Ironic that these Lefties are getting a taste of their own medicine, eh?

**BobR** · 01-09-2015, 07:39 AM

^ In all fairness, Detroit does have to deal with "Devil's Night" every year on the night before Halloween, although shooting as many of the Blacks as possible that engage in this arson ritual is a better solution than banning flame throwers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Night

My sincere apology; scratch the word "Blacks" and replace it with "arsonists."

**AntRobertson** · 01-09-2015, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by BobR

although shooting as many of the Blacks as possible that engage in this arson ritual

Jaysus.

Wrong thread, Bob. I think you want the 'Police State' one. It's more apropos for facist fantasies about ethnic cleansing.

**BobR** · 01-09-2015, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by BobR

although shooting as many of the Blacks as possible that engage in this arson ritual

Jaysus.

Wrong thread, Bob. I think you want the 'Police State' one. It's more apropos for facist fantasies about ethnic cleansing.

Spend a week in Detroit and you will understand.

**AntRobertson** · 01-09-2015, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by BobR

Spend a week in Detroit and you will understand.

Understand a call for summary execution of Black youths?

Yeah, nah I don't think so.

**Boon Mee** · 01-09-2015, 11:31 AM

EPA Fines Farmer $16 Million For Building a Pond

His violation? In 2012, Mr. Johnson built a stock pond for his horses and cattle on his 8-acre property in Fort Bridger, Wyoming.

Even though the EPA has no jurisdiction over non-navigable waters and stock ponds are exempt from the CWA.

Andy Johnson, Wyoming farmer, sues EPA over $16M fines over stock pond - Washington Times

Love this Big Government stuff, don't you?

**hazz** · 02-09-2015, 06:17 AM

and there was me thinking that this might not be booners bollocks after all its sounds very clear cut. except that they are not doing the chap for having a stock pond.... they are doing him for damming a navigable river to fill his pond... something that is the epa's business

There we have have it booners keeps his unblemished recond of getting wrong all the time.

**panama hat** · 02-09-2015, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by hazz

and there was me thinking that this might not be booners bollocks after all its sounds very clear cut. except that they are not doing the chap for having a stock pond.... they are doing him for damming a navigable river to fill his pond... something that is the epa's business

There we have have it booners keeps his unblemished recond of getting wrong all the time.

His habit of only reading the title makes him look the fool . . . yet again. At least he could have made the effort of quoting the parts that make it look as though he is right . . . but he relies on people reading his links as often as others bother to read his

**Boon Mee** · 02-09-2015, 07:27 AM

^&^^

You retards learn to read sometime, eh?

Even though the Clean Water Act exempts stock ponds, and Mr. Johnson had obtained the necessary state permits, the EPA ordered him in January 2014 to restore the area to its original condition or accumulate fines of $37,500 a day. Instead, Mr. Johnson hired a lawyer.

**hazz** · 02-09-2015, 07:34 AM

yes dear, but if one reads beyond the headline... one discovers that the fine et al is for the dam he put across a river to fill the stock pond.... that dam is not a stock pond and is covered by the epa

you are rather child like in your nievity.

**Boon Mee** · 02-09-2015, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by hazz

yes dear, but if one reads beyond the headline... one discovers that the fine et al is for the dam he put across a river to fill the stock pond....

you are rather foolish

And you're another dim bulb since he got the necessary permits to do so.

**hazz** · 02-09-2015, 07:37 AM

for the stock pond he did. but he did NOT the have the permits for damming the river

**Boon Mee** · 02-09-2015, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by hazz

for the stock pond he did. but he did the have the permits for damming the river

Well, hazz, that's why the dude hired a lawyer so they can sort it out in a legal fashion.

**AntRobertson** · 02-09-2015, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

And you're another dim bulb since he got the necessary permits to do so.

No he didn't:

"[...] Although stock ponds are specifically excluded from the Clean Water Act, the EPA argued that Mr. Johnson had violated federal law by constructing a dam on Six Mile Creek, which runs through his property, in order to fill the stock pond.

The creek is a tributary of the Green River, which is a “navigable, interstate water of the United States,” according to the EPA order.

As a result, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers concluded that Mr. Johnson needed a “standard, project-specific CWA permit,” and not just the permits issued by Wyoming, which he had obtained..."

Seriously Booners, how hard is it to actually read the articles that you yourself are posting/linking to.

**Boon Mee** · 02-09-2015, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

And you're another dim bulb since he got the necessary permits to do so.

No he didn't:

"[...] Although stock ponds are specifically excluded from the Clean Water Act, the EPA argued that Mr. Johnson had violated federal law by constructing a dam on Six Mile Creek, which runs through his property, in order to fill the stock pond.

The creek is a tributary of the Green River, which is a “navigable, interstate water of the United States,” according to the EPA order.

As a result, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers concluded that Mr. Johnson needed a “standard, project-specific CWA permit,” and not just the permits issued by Wyoming, which he had obtained..."

Well, we'll just have to see what the Courts decide then won't we?

**hazz** · 02-09-2015, 07:48 AM

well you must be right, after all american lawyers are very honest and would never allow a client to waste money fighting a case he will not win.

Although stock ponds are specifically excluded from the Clean Water Act, the EPA argued that Mr. Johnson had violated federal law by constructing a dam on Six Mile Creek, which runs through his property, in order to fill the stock pond.

the chap did two things and only had a permit for one of them. rather like you... he wants to pretend this is all about his pond and not about his dam

**Boon Mee** · 02-09-2015, 07:50 AM

We'll just have to wait with baited breath for the Judge's decision then won't we?

Mebe he'll go for a jury trial?

**AntRobertson** · 02-09-2015, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, we'll just have to see what the Courts decide then won't we?

I guess so.

They'll at least consider all relevant facts of the case, not just a selective reading of an article/headline.

**panama hat** · 02-09-2015, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

And you're another dim bulb since he got the necessary permits to do so.

Oh dear - you're the dim bulb, BM. Can you not read?

Originally Posted by hazz

for the stock pond he did. but he did NOT the have the permits for damming the river

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, hazz, that's why the dude hired a lawyer so they can sort it out in a legal fashion.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, we'll just have to see what the Courts decide then won't we?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

We'll just have to wait with baited breath for the Judge's decision then won't we?

Ah, passing the buck on your lack of reading comprehension.

Here's a tip - posters are now reading past your many posted links - why not just stick to the facts instead of making shit up in the hope of not getting caught out again and again and again

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