An intellectual cesspool of stupidity...

**man with no head** · 02-08-2006, 05:47 PM

...or, should we say, President, what, me worry?

Is it possible for this man to be any more embarassing? Don't answer that

"One reason why the Palestinians still suffer is because militant Hamas is trying to stop the advance of democracy."

Uh, hello, earth to Chucklenuts: Hamas and Hezbollah won representation in democratic elections.

Can I have a refund on my votes?

**Boon Mee** · 02-08-2006, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by surasak

...or, should we say, President, what, me worry?
Is it possible for this man to be any more embarassing? Don't answer that "One reason why the Palestinians still suffer is because militant Hamas is trying to stop the advance of democracy."

Poor Dubya is sick and tired of being chief of police to the entire world. I-raq has worn him out and he could give a shit how Israel sorts out Hizzbollah. In terms of the above quote, it stands on its own merit. Hamas is indeed trying anything they can do to fuck things up because that's all they know how to do. Instead of getting a good steady job and being responsible upstanding members of society, they raise their kids to become suicide bombers etc...

Bankrupt society with little hope of ever raising themselves out of the squalor they've sunk to. Voting in Hamas was their death sentence.

**man with no head** · 02-08-2006, 06:03 PM

Heavens, they run for office and win a democratic election. Isn't the irony rather thick? What if the Iraqis pick a government that aligns itself with Iran and threatens to destroy Israel. Are we going to complain about that and take our ball home?

If we support democracy we also have to support the outcome when it doesn't go in our favor. Otherwise we're just the Soviet Union in disguise.

**raycarey** · 02-08-2006, 06:24 PM

just a short time ago i remember the bush white house and its co-conspirators were trying to convince the world than an 'arab spring' was taking place in the ME. now, the US is doing its best to suffocate the democratically elected govt. of palestine, and the israelis have 25,000 troops on the ground in the their neighbor's territory....also governed by a democratically elected govt.

one of georgie boy's favorite fall back lines when he is dodging a specific question is, "ya see, what people need to understand is that, democracies don't go to war against each other, heh, heh."

i guess he'll be in search of another line. but then again, he's always got...."freedom's on the march".

**Whiteshiva** · 02-08-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by surasak

Heavens, they run for office and win a democratic election. Isn't the irony rather thick? What if the Iraqis pick a government that aligns itself with Iran and threatens to destroy Israel. Are we going to complain about that and take our ball home?

If we support democracy we also have to support the outcome when it doesn't go in our favor. Otherwise we're just the Soviet Union in disguise.

Also keep in mind that the reason why Hamas and Hezbollah has the amount of support they do is that they are also running schools, hospitals, etc. They are also blissfully free of the kind of corruption that Fatah was renowned for. In the eyes of the local population, they are the only organisations they have ever known that has ever genuinely cared for the well-being of the Palestinians.

The armed wings of these two organisations get all the press coverage in the news, but they are only one side of what these organisations represent.

**stroller** · 02-08-2006, 06:41 PM

How is "militant Hamas trying to stop the advance of democracy.", Boon Mee?

...and yes, 'democracy' in the Middle-East, well done Bush, what an arrogant imbecile!

Voting him in the first time around, could have been a genuine mistake, but re-electing the incompetent dwarf says a lot about the American people.
I feel sorry for the ones who haven't voted for this disaster but have to live with it.

**man with no head** · 02-08-2006, 06:45 PM

Blame the Democrats. TWICE they could have beaten him and TWICE they put someone against him who really was no better.

If the best America could do is George W. Bush.....

**Boon Mee** · 02-08-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

one of georgie boy's favorite fall back lines when he is dodging a specific question is, "ya see, what people need to understand is that, democracies don't go to war against each other

That's right, democratically elected Hizzbollah don't go to war unprovoked against Israel lobbing bombs and hijacking prisioners. Remember who started this...

**raycarey** · 02-08-2006, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Remember who started this...

remind me....and don't think i'm naive enough to believe 'this' started with those captured soldiers.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Poor Dubya .......could give a shit how Israel sorts out Hizzbollah.

on what do you base this assertion? it's the very first time i've heard or read this anywhere.

**barbaro** · 02-08-2006, 08:44 PM

"One reason why the Palestinians still suffer is because militant Hamas is trying to stop the advance of democracy."

Very bizzarre statement. A certain percentage of the American public is dumb enough to believe that.

**Mhz** · 02-08-2006, 08:54 PM

Hehehehehehe!

Its so weird that the guy who attacked & planned the 9/11 hi-jacking and who is well known for his terror organization is no longer in the news and no one even cares about him.

WOW!Its amazing how the media controls the American nation.

**stroller** · 02-08-2006, 08:54 PM

One word:
"demagogy"

**Boon Mee** · 02-08-2006, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Remember who started this...

remind me....and don't think i'm naive enough to believe 'this' started with those captured soldiers.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Poor Dubya .......could give a shit how Israel sorts out Hizzbollah.

on what do you base this assertion? it's the very first time i've heard or read this anywhere.

Watching the MSM news lately?
Dubya sent Condi over to China to play a concert piano recital.
A cease-fire is not paramount on his mind...

**Mhz** · 02-08-2006, 09:27 PM

Once upon a time there was a very famous man known as Mullah Omar the right or left hand or may be testicle of Osama Bin Laden.

Did they capture him or is he dead??

Why we dont hear much about him now a days??

**raycarey** · 02-08-2006, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Remember who started this...

remind me....and don't think i'm naive enough to believe 'this' started with those captured soldiers.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Poor Dubya .......could give a shit how Israel sorts out Hizzbollah.

on what do you base this assertion? it's the very first time i've heard or read this anywhere.

Watching the MSM news lately?
Dubya sent Condi over to China to play a concert piano recital.
A cease-fire is not paramount on his mind...

i'm not sure why you insist on avoiding my question...your 'joke' about rice aside, do you have any facts to back up your assertion?

**stroller** · 02-08-2006, 10:25 PM

^
Don't hold your breath.

**Boon Mee** · 02-08-2006, 10:31 PM

Y'all being intentionally dense here or what?
After me now: "It's the proxy war, stupid"
GWB is delighted to have Israel in the dogfight...

**stroller** · 02-08-2006, 10:36 PM

It might help if you post more than an off-hand remark and some dubious link, Boon Mee.
Others choose their own words to convey an argument.
Is this too difficult for you or what prevents you from doing this?

**Boon Mee** · 02-08-2006, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by stroller

It might help if you post more than an off-hand remark and some dubious link, Boon Mee.
Others choose their own words to convey an argument.
Is this too difficult for you or what prevents you from doing this?

As opposed to your Trolling remarks there Headmaster?

I'm posting on factual events taking place and if they intrude upon your preconcieved notion of how they should take place...?

**Whiteshiva** · 03-08-2006, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by raycarey

one of georgie boy's favorite fall back lines when he is dodging a specific question is, "ya see, what people need to understand is that, democracies don't go to war against each other

That's right, democratically elected Hizzbollah don't go to war unprovoked against Israel lobbing bombs and hijacking prisioners. Remember who started this...

You obviously have a far greater understanding of the middle east conflicts than any of us do Boon Mee, so please enlighten us - where exactly was Hezbollah democratically elected?

**Storekeeper** · 03-08-2006, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by raycarey

i'm not sure why you insist on avoiding my question...your 'joke' about rice aside, do you have any facts to back up your assertion?

Boon mee,

Don't fall into the trap that I did over on the otter forum ... ray will NEVER answer your questions and always INSIST you answer his. When you ask why that is he will only offer some condenscending comment.

**Fabian** · 03-08-2006, 07:53 AM

Whiteshiva, Hizbollah is part of the Libanese government.

**stroller** · 03-08-2006, 08:19 AM

^
Yeh, but the militant wing has no mandate from the government for their actions.
The Lebanese gov failed in disarming them, contrary to UN resolutions, that much is true.

**Storekeeper** · 03-08-2006, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by stroller

Yeh, but the militant wing has no mandate from the government for their actions.
The Lebanese gov failed in disarming them, contrary to UN resolutions, that much is true.

Lebanon has been in a tough position for years and years. They don't want to upset either the Syrians or the Israelis ... that was especially the position when the Gemyals were in power ... that's why the son (President elect) was assassinated just days before his inaugaration in 1982 by the Syrians.

Hezabollah fot elected ... the Western nations turned off funding ... Hezbollah turned to Syria for support ... now we're back to the old ways of the Middle East.

**attaboy** · 03-08-2006, 08:31 AM

I'm not sure Hezbollah can be split in two. Can they be trusted to disarm the military branch? I don't think so. It will always be held in reserve.

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