Thread: Quagmire....

You pinkos might as well just start working now on your spin for what you'll be saying 10 years from now when Iraq is no longer our friend and how it's proof of how stupid Americans are.

How long after success in Iraq will the pinko liberal commies start claiming credit for it?

Success?

"If liberals think that our presence in Iraq animates young Muslims to become Al Queda recruits, just wait until Al Queda and Iran can broadcast that the cowardly Americans really are paper tigers."

Intellectual Conservative Politics and Philosophy » Pull Out of Iraq, Then What?

Iraq will be a Shiite regime in the future, aligned with Iran.

Remember SK: Al-Qaeda has little in common with Shiite Islam.

Don't just throw out comments if you're not going to read the link first.

^ I'll give you credit and read it later.

Pull out of Iraq?

Who cares?

I want to see the Americans stay and get bled to death.

Following that article's logic we should just destroy everyone so we can preemptively prevent any problems in the future.

While we're at it I think my neighbor might try to kill me on April 26, 2008 therefore I should go next door right now and kill him to prevent it.

America already has lost in Iraq. It's time to pull out.

Don't you think they are emboldened enough when they see we can't secure the country after 3 years and more than $300 billion spent?

Pulling out ? how about putting back Saddam back in power and let him do the clean-up ?

Pull out and let them sort it out. That's what's happening now because we simply aren't going to tolerate higher U.S. casualties rates for a very unpopular war.

We shouldn't have gotten involved in something we don't have a way to solve much less understand.

Invasion of Iraq. March 20, 2003

Bali bombing October 12, 2002

And the run up to supporting the war in Iraq?

CNN.com - Iraq tells Australia to drop U.S. support - August 16, 2002

Ironically the authorization to wage war was passed on October 11, 2002. Interesting timing.

Originally Posted by surasak

And the run up to supporting the war in Iraq?

CNN.com - Iraq tells Australia to drop U.S. support - August 16, 2002

The "New York Times" article by Judith Miller, 6 weeks after 9/11.

Originally Posted by Macha

I was actually hired for DDR but later on they insisted I help them with DSR.

*Stroller will need to do a lot of cleaning*

I've been clean for years, mate.

As for 'moderating', I don't have the time at the moment, just a general reminder to keep commenting on the topics, personal insults don't add anything of value to this forum section, if you can't argue your point of view without this, please refrain from posting.

Nuremburg Prosecutor Says Both Bush and Saddam Should Stand Trial:

If the United States showed more of an interest in building an international justice system, they could have put Saddam Hussein on trial for his 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

"The United Nations authorized the first Gulf War and authorized all nations to take whatever steps necessary to keep peace in the area," he said. "They could have stretched that a bit by seizing the person for causing the harm. Of course, they didn't do that and ever since then I've been bemoaning the fact that we didn't have an International Criminal Court at that time."

OneWorld U.S. Home / Today's News - Bush and Saddam Should Both Stand Trial, Says Nuremberg Prosecutor

Originally Posted by Donald H. Rumsfeld

And Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, citing passivity toward Nazi Germany before World War II, said that "many have still not learned history's lessons" and "believe that somehow vicious extremists can be appeased."

Kind of ironic that seeing as the US government are generally viewed as the 21st Century Nazis.

Interesting enough the reason the Nazis went to war was to control the oil fields in the Soviet Union.

Japan went to war for the resources in Manchuria.

The United States invade Iraq to 'protect the oil fields' according to Bush himself.

Hmmm....

It's a shame that America has turned into a rogue nation, short of a new kind of Nazi state. They were having a good start. They learned well from their European peers. This is another part of that Europeanization process in the USA.

Originally Posted by surasak

Interesting enough the reason the Nazis went to war was to control the oil fields in the Soviet Union.

Japan went to war for the resources in Manchuria.

The United States invade Iraq to 'protect the oil fields' according to Bush himself.

Hmmm....

True.

And the Japanese also attacked Pearl Harbor because of oil.


Embargo.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

It's a shame that America has turned into a rogue nation, short of a new kind of Nazi state. They were having a good start. They learned well from their European peers. This is another part of that Europeanization process in the USA.

A world governed in an Iranian Islamic tradition would be much more attractive. Some of those burkas really send me!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Donald H. Rumsfeld

And Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, citing passivity toward Nazi Germany before World War II, said that "many have still not learned history's lessons" and "believe that somehow vicious extremists can be appeased."

Kind of ironic that seeing as the US government are generally viewed as the 21st Century Nazis.

Generally viewed by whom? Hugo Chavez? Fidel Castro? Sure but that's where the generalization seems to stop. Even the ponderous UN is beginning to sense the wrong mindedness of cosponsoring terrorist organizations.
Hezbolah and Hamas may not be in their death throes yet but they took a serious hit recently. Being underwritten by the Iranian government may not have been the best choice of action.

In honor of Rummy's speech: what you saw and what those who participated really saw

Another success!

Afghan opium cultivation up 60 percent - Yahoo! News

The recent terms of "Fascism, communism, and Nazism" are because of the coming elections.

There are more speeches scheduled by Bush and the administration before then.

Expect to here these terms more to get some of the base out to vote.

Hell ... General Pershing and then young Patton basically went into Mexico not only to chase Villa but also to ... look for OIL.

Did we ever catch Villa by the way ... that fugger was a terrorist too ya know