Thread: Right-wing domestic terrorists

Another dumbarses.

And while we are on the subject of dumbarses, it looks like baldy's campaign are illegally sharing data.....

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Disturbing new details in alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer

VIDEO HERE
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot: Disturbing new details revealed in court documents - ABC7 Chicago

Dorchester Man Arrested At MBTA Station For Carrying Firearm, Accused Of Buying Materials For Bomb


BOSTON (CBS) – A Dorchester man who allegedly gathered materials used to create explosives was arrested on Thursday night at an MBTA station stop for illegally carrying a firearm and ammunition.


47-year-old Pepo Herd El, who also goes by Pepo Wamchawi Herd (El), was arrested at the Ruggles MBTA station stop on Thanksgiving night, said U.S. District Attorney Andrew Lelling on Friday.


Police say that on Thursday, El went on a bus from his house in Dorchester to the Ruggles MBTA stop. While at the stop, police searched him.




During the search, police say he had in his possession a loaded pistol, three loaded magazines, a bulletproof vest, and a knife. He was also allegedly wearing a security jacket, though it is not believed he works as a security guard anywhere. Due to a prior conviction in 2004 for possessing a firearm without a permit, El was not allowed to have any firearms or ammunition.


El was placed under arrest and was charged with one count of being a felon in possession of a firearm. Lelling says he was “detained pending a detention hearing for Dec. 2.”


El has now been placed under law enforcement surveillance and is suspected of gathering chemicals used to make explosives. Lelling also said that El “adheres to the anti-government/anti-authority sovereign citizen extremist ideology.”


He faces up to 10 years in prison. The investigation is still ongoing.

Dorchester Man Arrested At MBTA Station For Carrying Firearm, Accused Of Buying Materials For Bomb – CBS Boston

^ Interesting . . . organised militia became the National Guard . . . that left unorganised militia - nothing to do with the bastardised amendment

These white supremacists in the US are the Jihadi equivalents in the ME. Both are fanatical, armed, and violent.

Originally Posted by misskit

Disturbing new details in alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer

VIDEO HERE
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot: Disturbing new details revealed in court documents - ABC7 Chicago

society needs to send a message to these militia assholes right now.....lock them up in isolation and throw away the key.

New filings claim there was a Plan B the militiamen had drawn up, that involved a takeover of the Michigan capitol building by 200 combatants who would stage a week-long series of televised executions of public officials.


And, according to government documents now on file in lower Michigan court, there was also a Plan C -- burning down the state house, leaving no survivors.

Originally Posted by raycarey

a takeover of the Michigan capitol building by 200 combatants who would stage a week-long series of televised executions of public officials.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Plan C -- burning down the state house, leaving no survivors.

They would have pissed their pants if the police or national guard would have rocked up and some snipers would have taken out of few of their inbred friends.
Think Fishlocker who believes no-one can harm him because 'he has a gun'

But yes - make an example of these arseholes

Talking of right wing domestic terrorists...

Another right wing domestic terrorist who has now closed her twatter account.

^ you really want to feel sorry for her . . . and what is this American pre-occupation with catchphrases at inopportune times?

Oh, right . . . feeling sorry. I hope the guy gets better and tells her off every day until they die a peaceful death

It's a very 'conservative' trait to not give a fuck about anything or anyone else until it actually affects them and then they start screaming and complaining how horribly unfair it all is and how everyone should suddenly drop everything and aid / assist / give sympathy to them.

^ Not sure I'd call it selfish . . . it's more like entitled. Constantly banging on about their 'rights' though they wouldn't know them if they came up and kicked their arse. But yea, selfish will do in a crunch.

19-Year-Old Texan Joel Schrimsher Sentenced To 2 Years In Federal Prison For Bomb Threat To Federal Reserve

BROWNSVILLE, Texas (CBSDFW.COM/AP) – A federal judge sentenced a South Texas man on Monday, Nov. 30 to two years in federal prison after making online threats to bomb a Federal Reserve building.


Joel Hayden Schrimsher pleaded guilty on Aug. 24 to conveying false or misleading information through the internet concerning the potential destruction of a federal building.

Schrimsher, 19, was arrested after federal authorities in June 2019 traced to him threats made on Twitter in which he had said, “I’m gonna mail a bomb to the Federal Reserve.”

Authorities said Schrimsher acknowledged to making a tweet about bombing and damaging a Federal Reserve building and claiming he was being “edgy” when he made the threats.


During a court hearing on Monday, U.S. District Judge Fernando Rodriguez said that Schrimsher had precursor chemicals and bomb making recipes in his bedroom in Harlingen at the time he made the threats.


“The FBI and our law enforcement partners take threats of violence very seriously,” said Christopher Combs, special agent in charge of the FBI’s San Antonio office.


19-Year-Old Texan Joel Schrimsher Sentenced To 2 Years In Federal Prison For Bomb Threat To Federal Reserve – CBS Dallas / Fort Worth




Harlingen Teen had Explosive Compounds and White Supremacy Imagery

Right wing, Catholic hypocrite, as bent as a 90 baht note.... he should move to the US. I'm sure there's a place for him in the Republican party.

Hungarian MEP József Szájer apologised on Tuesday (1 December) following reports that he was caught trying to flee what was described as a 25-man gay orgy last Friday that was shut down by Brussels police for breaching COVID restrictions on large gatherings.

A fervent supporter of Catholic values, Szájer was the leader of the delegation of Viktor Orbán’s Fidesz party in the centre-right European People’s Party in the European Parliament.

The hypocrisy . . .

Police in Washington state have arrested an armed right-wing protester on charges of first-degree assault Saturday in Olympia, the state capital, on suspicion of shooting a left-wing protester during demonstrations fueled by baseless claims that President Trump had been wrongly denied reelection.

Authorities identified the alleged shooter as a 25-year-old man from Shoreline, a city north of Seattle, but did not release a name. He remains in custody.


The shooting, which occurred shortly after 2 p.m., was the second in just eight days in Olympia as protests and counterprotests related to Trump’s election defeat and false claims of voter fraud have escalated into violence, as they have in the nation’s capital, where at least four people were reportedly stabbed Saturday night.

In Olympia on Saturday, demonstrations between supporters and opponents of Trump rapidly deteriorated into rioting and violence, moving between the sprawling State Capitol grounds and downtown streets, said Chris Loftis, a spokesman for the Washington State Patrol, which is investigating the shooting.

The victim is in a hospital but has refused to speak to investigators, and the extent of the person’s injuries is unknown.

“This was very different yesterday than anything we’ve seen before,” said Loftis, adding that the previous weekend’s shooting, by a right-wing protester into a crowd of left-wing demonstrators, produced no serious injuries. He declined to name the groups involved in either weekend’s protests and counterprotests.

The right-wing group that gathered Saturday, which included at least a few men wearing the trademark Hawaiian shirts of the “boogaloo boys” group calling for a second civil war, had 50 to 80 members, Loftis said, while the left-wing group had 130 to 150 members, most of them clad in black “tactical gear.” Members of both groups were heavily armed with long guns, pistols and knives.

“They were looking for confrontation,” Loftis said.

A report in the Olympian newspaper described the right-wing protesters as including Proud Boys, a male-chauvinist organization with ties to white nationalism, and other supporters of Trump. The left-wing protesters included members of the loosely organized antifa movement, the newspaper said.

Police also recovered an unexploded, commercial-grade firework that had been thrown into the crowd of protesters and counterprotesters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-turn-violent/

This guy is great...

The widespread embrace of conspiracy and disinformation amounts to a "mass radicalization" of Americans, and increases the risk of right-wing violence, veteran security officials and terrorism researchers warn.

At conferences, in op-eds and at agency meetings, domestic terrorism analysts are raising concern about the security implications of millions of conservatives buying into baseless right-wing claims. They say the line between mainstream and fringe is vanishing, with conspiracy-minded Republicans now marching alongside armed extremists at rallies across the country. Disparate factions on the right are coalescing into one side, analysts say, self-proclaimed "real Americans" who are cocooned in their own news outlets, their own social media networks and, ultimately, their own "truth."

"This tent that used to be sort of 'far-right extremists' has gotten a lot broader. To me, a former counterterrorism official, that's a radicalization process," said Mary McCord, a former federal prosecutor who oversaw terrorism cases and who's now a law professor at Georgetown University.

McCord was speaking at a recent online conference, Millions of Conversations, an organization aimed at reducing polarization. Along with McCord, several other former officials who served in senior national security roles said the mass embrace of bogus information poses a serious national security concern for the incoming Biden administration.

Weekend protest

They added that there's no easy foil for a right-wing propaganda effort that amplifies fears and grievances on a nonstop loop. Those beliefs already have inspired political violence at protests over lockdowns and racial injustice. Political conspiracies drew thousands to last weekend's pro-Trump rally, after which the Proud Boys and other violent extremist groups wreaked havoc in downtown Washington, D.C.

"Breaking through that echo chamber is critical or else we'll see more violence," said Elizabeth Neumann, who in April resigned her post leading the Department of Homeland Security office that oversees responses to violent extremism.

While it's impossible to pin down the scope of such beliefs, analysts say, the numbers are staggering if even a fraction of President Trump's more than 74 million voters support bogus claims that say, for example, the election was rigged, the coronavirus is a hoax, and liberals are hatching a socialist takeover.

Traffic numbers for right-wing outlets and livestreams suggest the support extends well beyond the margins. Recent polls also signal the spread: One survey found that around 77% of Trump supporters believe that Joe Biden won the election as a result of fraud despite no evidence to support that claim.

At the online conference, participants characterized the shift as a mass radicalization. Neumann said the issue keeps her up at night worrying about where the country is heading. She talked about family members who've gone down the right-wing rabbit hole of disinformation. She said conversations with them require patience and negotiation, such as laying out her conditions for coronavirus safety protocols at family gatherings.

Neumann said it's hard to imagine what it would take to replicate those tough conversations on a national scale, given the power and reach of conservative media.

"I am wrestling with: How do I help people that have, unbeknownst to them, they've become radicalized in their thought? They hold views they didn't hold 10 years ago because all they listen to is that conservative infotainment," Neumann said. "Unless we help them break the deception, we cannot operate with 30% of the country holding the extreme views that they do."

Show of force

Jason Dempsey, a military analyst and former Army officer on the panel, said too many people are turning to force as a response to fears over political divisions, whether through the military and law enforcement, or the formation of local armed groups. The election-rigging rhetoric only ups the ante as Democrats are painted no longer just as fellow citizens with different views but as enemies who must be vanquished.

"There are no easy answers, even if they're carrying guns and wearing body armor," Dempsey said. "We've got to get past that and be wary of the idea of militarism that doesn't lead to a common conception of service, but leads to the kind of tribalism where we have to protect ourselves and our families by force against those we disagree with."

On the conference call, the analysts agreed that the leftist fringe also is hardening and promoting its own conspiracies. But they said there's simply no equivalency with the right in terms of the volume of disinformation and conspiracy, or in its connections to violent acts.

"There is a monetization of outrage on both sides," Neumann said, "but in particular the conservative infotainment sector makes money off of that outrage."

On the topic of solutions, the panelists floated ideas about education, media literacy, trusted mediators. But they added there's little chance of progress until Trump, a superspreader of conspiracies and disinformation, is out of the White House.

"Leadership matters," said Kori Schake, who was a senior adviser in the State Department, Defense Department and the National Security Council. "It really matters that the president of the United States is an arsonist of radicalization. And it will really help when that is no longer the case."

Entrenched polarization

The online conference wrapped up the way many such discussions do: without a clear solution, at least in the near-term. The same what-do-we-do conversations are happening in political circles, among researchers and at tech companies.

Nobody expects polarization – or its spinoff, radicalization – to go away when Trump is out of office. It's now a fixture of the American political landscape, part of an international trend toward right-wing populism, said Arie Kruglanski, a University of Maryland professor who's written extensively about radicalization. He said the erosion of trust in public institutions leaves ample room for disinformation to take root.

"We don't trust the government. We don't trust the Congress. We don't trust the Supreme Court. We don't trust now the science. We don't trust medicine. We don't trust the media for sure," Kruglanski said. "So who do we trust? Well, we trust our tribe. We trust conspiracy theories that tell us what we want to hear."

Kruglanski said revolutions and wars throughout history offer examples of how quickly extremism can go mainstream.

"Every large political movement started at one point as a small fringe minority," he said. "And when it catches on, it can engulf the whole society. So, you know, the danger is there."

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/15/94638...t=nprml&f=1001

I saw a graphic today that says 82% of Republicans believe the election was rigged.

'Merika is doomed.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

'Merika is doomed.

Not looking good.

A federal grand jury has charged six men with conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in what investigators say was a plot by anti-government extremists who were angry over her coronavirus policies.The indictment released Thursday by U.S. Attorney Andrew Birge levied the conspiracy charge against Adam Dean Fox, Barry Gordon Croft Jr., Ty Gerard Garbin, Kaleb James Franks, Daniel Joseph Harris and Brandon Michael-Ray Caserta. They are all from Michigan except for Croft, who lives in Delaware.

The charge carries a maximum penalty of life in prison, Birge said in a statement.

The six were arrested in early October following an FBI investigation into an alleged plot to kidnap the Democratic governor at her vacation home in northern Michigan.

Defense attorneys have said their clients were “big talkers” who didn’t intend to follow through on the alleged plan.

The indictment repeats allegations made during an October hearing, where agent Richard Trask testified that the men were involved with paramilitary groups.

Fox and Croft attended a June meeting in Dublin, Ohio, at which the possible kidnapping of governors and other actions were discussed, the indictment states. During the hearing, Trask said Virginia’s Democratic governor, Ralph Northam, was among those mentioned as potential targets.

It says Fox later met Garbin, a leader of a Michigan group called the “Wolverine Watchmen,” at a rally outside of the Michigan Capitol in Lansing. At a meeting in Grand Rapids, the two men and other members of the Watchmen agreed to work together “toward their common goals,” the document says.

It describes live-fire “field training exercises” and other preparations, including the surveillance of Whitmer’s vacation house and the exchange of encrypted messages.

During one training event, “they practiced assaulting a building in teams, and discussed tactics for fighting the governor’s security detail with improvised explosive devices, a projectile launcher, and other weapons,” the indictment says.

They also discussed destroying a highway bridge near Whitmer’s house to prevent law enforcement from responding, it states.

The indictment says that in an electronic message, Caserta wrote that if the men encountered police during a reconnaissance mission, “they should give the officers one opportunity to leave, and kill them if they did not comply.”

They were arrested after four members scheduled an Oct. 7 meeting in Ypsilanti, west of Detroit, to meet an undercover FBI agent and buy explosives and other supplies, the indictment says.
Eight other men who are said to be members or associates of the Wolverine Watchmen are charged in state court with counts including providing material support for terrorist acts. Some of them are accused of taking part in the alleged plot against Whitmer.

6 men indicted in alleged plot to kidnap Michigan governor

The electric chair for these fascists, and then throw their carcasses on the dung hill to be consumed by the dung beatles.

Originally Posted by elche

That's great, kid.

Which one is you?