Thread: Young Earthers & Creationism

Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

especially with regards to point 3) as there is no room to modify or adjust the theory, as the bible is the word of God and hence may not be edited.

Google "Council of Nicea" and read about how it was edited.

I was talking about today, mate. Besides, the council in Nicea dealt with the New Testament, not the Genesis, and the latter is basically what the creationists tend to refer to. To my limited knowledge there is very little in the New Testament regarding the origin and/or creation of life.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Ezekiel

No dinosaurs but had some UFO and alien stuff in Ezekiel.

THE ENCOUNTER
1:1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. 2 In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin's captivity, 3 The word of the Lord came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in0the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the Lord was there upon him.
Ezekiel is among the exile community by the Chebar River and he sees a revelation from the Elohiym.

GLOWING SPINNING METALLIC CRAFT
4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
A rushing windy great thundercloud like flying craft flew out of the north. The vehicle had the appearance of brilliant glowing fire all around it and the center of the illumination the vehicle was polished metal.

MOVING DEVICES
5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
From the metallic center came four moving devices that appeared human-like.
And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
The devices had parts that resembled wings and faces.


The Bible UFO Connection - Ezekiel - Text Version

Originally Posted by Attilla the Hen

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

especially with regards to point 3) as there is no room to modify or adjust the theory, as the bible is the word of God and hence may not be edited.

Google "Council of Nicea" and read about how it was edited.

The Nicene Council never edited or codified the bible, the canon of the Bible was never even discussed. The first council dealt with the Arian heresy (fundamentally the belief that Jesus was a created being, a violation of the dogma of the Trinity), the creation of the statement of belief that became the Nicene Creed ( a direct refutation of Arianism), and fixing the date of Easter. They ordered that some books (arian and gnostic ones) were "false" but didn't make a canonical list of what was "true". The second council dealt with the veneration of Icons. The first council to attempt to codify the canon of the Bible was the Council of Laodicea but as that was a local rather than an ecumenical council its decisions were non-binding (although the modern RC canon is fundamentally the same as that canon). While there was general agreement (meaning a few minor books disagreed about) on the OT canon from the 2nd century and the NT from the 4th the canon wasn't actually fixed until the Council of Trent, after the reformation - which is why different Christian groups today have slightly different canons.

Anybody repeating the myth that any part of the biblical canon was set or edited at either of the Nicene councils might as well hold a big sign up saying "I don't know WTF I'm talking about".

Originally Posted by Dan

^ That's easy. God left the bones in the ground but no clues in the bible to test our faith. A test you, evil sinner, have failed.

Yes, I agree with the OP. It's fucking mental. (And only fractionally less mental than that whole rapture thing that Americans seem so in love with.) The amazing thing is that agreeing that life evolved in regular Darwinian fashion is a minority opinion (and a fairly extreme minority at that) in the States. Understanding evolution seems to me pretty much entry-level stuff; if you haven't got this sorted out, you've more or less ruled yourself out from having any kind of opinion that counts.

I think this is disinformation, don't believe polls necessarily, particularly if you don't know how the question was asked , or framed.

I think this is a very vocal minority and it's " Polite" to not question "faith", and now laws are being passed in the world that make it a crime to ridicule these theories...So speak up and speak loud , while we still can.

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