Europe's looming demise

[keda]

Europe's looming demise

"The Europe as you know it from visiting, from your parents or friends is on the verge of collapsing," Geert Wilders said in a speech in the United States last year.

The leader of the Netherlands' populist Party for Freedom added: "We are now witnessing profound changes that will forever alter Europe's destiny and might send the Continent in what Ronald Reagan called 'a thousand years of darkness.' " And not just Europe, but America as well.

Been to Europe lately? Thought it was bad? You ain't seen nothing yet. The passage of the Lisbon Treaty, hailed by President Obama, nailed the coffin shut on national sovereignty in Europe. The people of Europe fought it, but were overwhelmed by their political elites and the lack of American leadership in this age of our rather Marxist, collectivist U.S. president.

Come Jan. 1, 2010, a disastrous and suicidal pact called the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership (Europe/Mediterranean) goes into effect with little fanfare or examination. It boggles the mind that such a consequential and seismic cultural shift could be mandated and put into play without so much as a murmur from the mainstream media.

Why should Americans care about this? Americans have to care because this global gobbledygook is coming to our shores, thanks to our globalist president.

The European human rights group called Stop the Islamization of Europe (SIOE) has been working tirelessly to expose the mass Muslim immigration plan of the Euro-Med Partnership.

A statement on the SIOE Web site criticizes the secrecy of the process: "It was shocking to hear about the plans and at the same time knowing that Danish politicians and a [cowardly] Danish press - who is otherwise proud to be critical - has told nothing to the Danish people about this project which begins in January.

This also showed clearly at the conference. Only very few politicians showed up and no media. Those politicians who showed up had obviously never heard about the Euro-Mediterranean project.

The goal of the Euro-Mediterranean cooperation is to create a new Greater European Union encompassing both Europe and North Africa, with the Mediterranean Sea becoming a domestic Eurabian sea. The goal is to establish a "comprehensive political partnership," including a "free trade area and economic integration"; "considerably more money for the partners" (that is, more European money flowing into North Africa); and "cultural partnership" - that is, importation of Islamic culture into post-Christian Europe.

According to the SIOE, in the Euro-Med plan "Europe is to be islamized. Democracy, Christianity, European culture and Europeans are to be driven out of Europe. Fifty million North Africans from Muslim countries are to be imported into the EU."

Skeptical? It's already happening. The British newspaper the Daily Express reported in October 2008 on "a controversial taxpayer-funded 'job centre' " that opened in Mali at that time as "just the first step towards promoting 'free movement of people in Africa and the EU.' Brussels economists claim Britain and other EU states will 'need' 56 million immigrant workers between them by 2050 to make up for the 'demographic decline' due to falling birthrates and rising death rates across Europe."

To offset this decline, a "blue card" system is to be created that will allow card holders to travel freely within the European Union and have full rights to work - as well as the full right to collect welfare benefits.

A Muslim population from Africa moving freely into Europe threatens America. On Christmas Day, a Nigerian Muslim flew from Amsterdam to Detroit and tried to explode a bomb on the plane - after he was allowed to board the plane without a passport. The Euro-Mediterranean Partnership will make jihad attacks like this one all the easier.

And once in Europe, Muslims have already begun demanding special privileges and accommodations. IslamOnline reported on Dec. 21 that "Muslims activists from 26 European countries have come together to launch the first rights council to enlighten European Muslims about their rights, monitor rising Islamophobia and defend Muslim rights in European courts of law."

Ali Abu Shwaima, a Muslim leader in Italy, explained: "We think European human rights groups are not doing enough to defend the rights of Muslims. Therefore we thought that we need this new council, especially that all laws and constitutions in Europe respect freedom of religion and oppose all forms of discrimination and racism."

"Islamophobia," "discrimination" and "racism" are all terms Muslims in Europe and America use to confuse people into thinking that the perpetrators of Islamic terrorism are the real victims. And it is working: Mr. Wilders is going on trial in the Netherlands, instead of all the Islamic hate sponsors he is fighting against. It has to be this way, to increase harmony among the Muslim and non-Muslim member states of the Euro-Med Partnership.

This internationalism is already destroying what has made Europe free and great. And now Mr. Obama seems to want to do the same to America.

Europe's looming demise - Washington Times


Looks like we've been shafted by our own leaders, but nothing new about that.

Oh well, not even sure where this thread belongs, since "no-hoper (democracy) loses" is not really news.

[watterinja]

Read a few lines. Comes across as ultra-right stuff... Put it in the politics section...

[dotcom]

mmmmm British jobs Centre in Mali. Ain't it a wonderful thing?

[DrB0b]

Read a few lines. Comes across as ultra-right stuff... Put it in the politics section...

The Washington Times is a worthless rag owned and run up to last month by the messiah and second coming of Christ Sun Myung Moon, leader of the Moonies. He established it to combat communism. It's a popular source of quotes for right-wing nutjobs as many people confuse it with the Washington Post, a serious newspaper. The article is factually wrong in almost every statement it makes, par for the course for this "newspaper".

[robuzo]

Read a few lines. Comes across as ultra-right stuff... Put it in the politics section...

The Washington Times is a worthless rag owned and run up to last month by the messiah and second coming of Christ Sun Myung Moon, leader of the Moonies. He established it to combat communism. It's a popular source of quotes for right-wing nutjobs as many people confuse it with the Washington Post, a serious newspaper. The article is factually wrong in almost every statement it makes, par for the course for this "newspaper".

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[Chairman Mao]

Uh oh... the muzzies... 1/5th of the worlds population (the evil 1/5th, the other 4/5th are lovely and civil and evolved) are spreading...

*tremble with fear*

[watterinja]

Read a few lines. Comes across as ultra-right stuff... Put it in the politics section...

The Washington Times is a worthless rag owned and run up to last month by the messiah and second coming of Christ Sun Myung Moon, leader of the Moonies. He established it to combat communism. It's a popular source of quotes for right-wing nutjobs as many people confuse it with the Washington Post, a serious newspaper. The article is factually wrong in almost every statement it makes, par for the course for this "newspaper".

Thanks, DrBob. Puts the piece in perspective.

Wasn't the Dutch fellow, Geert Wilders, banned from entering the UK recently?

[StrontiumDog]

Read a few lines. Comes across as ultra-right stuff... Put it in the politics section...

The Washington Times is a worthless rag owned and run up to last month by the messiah and second coming of Christ Sun Myung Moon, leader of the Moonies. He established it to combat communism. It's a popular source of quotes for right-wing nutjobs as many people confuse it with the Washington Post, a serious newspaper. The article is factually wrong in almost every statement it makes, par for the course for this "newspaper".

Yep, spot on.

The article is paranoid, fear inducing shite...but some will buy into it...

[raycarey]

The article is paranoid, fear inducing shite...but some will buy into it.

and others will copy and paste it in an effort to spread fear and hatred.

[meepho]

mmmmm British jobs Centre in Mali. Ain't it a wonderful thing?

That will be there to teach them how to sign on correctly before they arrive, as far as i know our jobless rate is increasing in GB.

We care for people, next will be a council office showing them how to get housing.

[Tom Sawyer]

It's the oldest trick in the book by the right-wing nutjobs - find something unpopular with the low-brows (and there may well be something wrong with that EU charter) - but then link it to 'Marxist' - read 'anybody who wants to curb runaway capitalism that has completely fucked our countries and our family lives'...and there you have it - the Washington Times and their neo-con allies.

The irony in this (again - where's SD to learn real irony?) is that the latest EU treaty/charter is not Marxist at all - but right-wing! It's designed to disenfranchise the nation-state's populace from demnading the state look after "THEIR" best interests and not some multi-euro-state corporate alliance. THAT's what this is about - Marxist? Huh??

[slackula]

Time to bust this out again:

"Pseudoconservativism is among other things a disorder in relation to authority, characterized by an inability to find other modes for human relationship than those of more or less complete domination or submission. . . . The pseudo-conservative is a man who, in the name of upholding traditional American values and institutions and defending them against more or less fictitious dangers, consciously or unconsciously aims at their abolition. . . . [He] sees his own country as being so weak that it is constantly about to fall victim to subversion; and yet he feels that it is so all-powerful that any failure it may experience in getting its way in the world . . . cannot possibly be due to its limitations but must be attributed to its having been betrayed."

Richard Hofstadter, The Paranoid Style in American Politics and Other Essays, 1965."

[kingwilly]

Read a few lines. Comes across as ultra-right stuff... Put it in the politics section...

indeed it is.

I second the (re)moval of this crap into a more appropriate forum (perhaps MKP or at the very least Issues)

Quote: Originally Posted by StrontiumDog The article is paranoid, fear inducing shite...but some will buy into it. and others will copy and paste it in an effort to spread fear and hatred.

copy and pasted often enough it will become The Truth!

[dotcom]

The Washington Post is fit for lining bird cages.

Kneel at the foot of Bambam.

[dotcom]

I can assure you Muslims are already demanding foot baths & prayer rooms to be installed in airports.

[kingwilly]

I can assure you Muslims are already demanding foot baths & prayer rooms to be installed in airports.

Yes, how dare they demand a simple thing like a prayer room to be installed in airports. Non-mulsims will be totally inconvenienced by this.

Outrageous it is, why should they be allowed freedom of religion ?

Que the usual try building a Church in Saudi comments to follow....

[Stinky]

Yeah but try building a church in Saudi

[dotcom]

I hope they build a fucking Mosque right next to your house so you can enjoy the call to prayer at 5 AM.

[kingwilly]

I hope they build a fucking Mosque right next to your house so you can enjoy the call to prayer at 5 AM.

I live next to a mosque mate.

and I enjoy the call to prayer when I hear it, which is not that often.

[Stinky]

The Mussie tried to get permission in Blighty for calls to prayer not long ago, I think it was in Oxford or Cambridge, (drunk now cant be bothered to find likns)
They didn't get the permission, only a matter of time though.

[GooMaiRoo]

In contrast to the many thoughtful and informative threads on this forum, no one has actually responded to any specific points from the intial post. Is the politically incorrect Wilders really so inarticulate as to be beneath substantive criticism? I'd like know what other TD members think about the Islamization of Europe and some of the specific points of Wilders' speech. To be honest, I'm concerned about Islamization of Europe because I'm not a great fan of Islam in general and sharia law in specific.

Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph

[WhiteKnight]

In contrast to the many thoughtful and informative threads on this forum, no one has actually responded to any specific points from the intial post. Is the politically incorrect Wilders really so inarticulate as to be beneath substantive criticism? I'd like know what other TD members think about the Islamization of Europe and some of the specific points of Wilders' speech. To be honest, I'm concerned about Islamization of Europe because I'm not a great fan of Islam in general and sharia law in specific.

Maybe you should have a look at the date of that article you quote; they didn't get what they wanted and after four years..................

[Panda]

Another anti-Muslim rant from Keda.

[sabang]

internationalism is already destroying what has made Europe free and great

It was internationalism that made Europe free and great.

a disastrous and suicidal pact called the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership

Israel is a member too. Libya at first did not participate because Gaddafi called it 'a blatant European attempt to gain hegemony outside its borders'. It has since come on board, but a good example of how suspicions are mutual.

Wiki-
"The Barcelona Process is a unique and ambitious initiative, which laid the foundations of a new regional relationship and which represents a turning point in Euro-Mediterranean relations. In the Barcelona Declaration, the Euro-Mediterranean partners established the three main objectives of the

Partnership:
Definition of a common area of peace and stability through the reinforcement of political and security dialogue (Political and Security Basket).
Construction of a zone of shared prosperity through an economic and financial partnership and the gradual establishment of a free-trade area (Economic and Financial Basket).
Rapprochement between peoples through a social, cultural and human partnership aimed at encouraging understanding between cultures and exchanges between civil societies (Social, Cultural and Human Basket)."

Euromediterranean Partnership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For anyone to describe this as a 'disastrous and suicidal pact', well you'd have to be a stark raving moonie or something.

[keda]

Islam is an ideology, and an evil one.

Hey scarey, last time I posted that Islam is an evil ideology, you dumped it into MKP. Are you going to do the same this time?

If so, we shall have a battle of wills (mine) vs buttons (yours).
If not, please explain why one is MKP material and the other is not.