Thread: Maybe a bit heavy for a Saturday Night..but what the hell

I recently posted about the lies that the so called "Jews" had for years held every Christian over a barrel with..i.e. the numbers killed in the so called "holocaust" and was accused of being a "holocaust denier", and the more I read the more I deny...here is a bit of interesting stuff, it is especially relevant to the Americans, I'd be interested to know how much of this is public knowledge in the US, or please, if it is rubbish, please correct me!

No "Anti Semetic" shit, just facts would be nice - I even found reliable sources that related that Gorbachev released the ceased papers from Auschwitz, and released these near the end of his presidency, and they revealed that somewhere in the region of 76000 People, not just Jews, died at Auschwitz, (none from gas) mainl from epidemics and natural causes...would seem to me that the Jews have been having a party on this for 50 or more years..or as one Jew was quoted.. "There's no business like Shoah business!" (Shoah being the word for holocaust..imagine where all your US tax dollars, by the billion have been getting milked!
Now, without any prior prejudice, or previously held opinions - go through some of this, and wonder why the world is in the mess it is! (apologies for some of the fonts, I have been using a shitty little program called Notepad 2008, that will change!

Besides the usual crap we here about how Israel needs to protect itself from constant Arab threats, it would appear that in recent history, it has done very well by manipulating the USA to receive BILLIONS of dollars of US Citizens taxes!

Not being from the US nor being schooled in current 20th Century US history, any US citizens care to comment if this kind of stuff is talked about or taught? Somehow I doubt it!

On the subject of Middle Eastern relations, particularly between US/Israeli and the Arab Nations, take a look at this little list -

Paul Wolfowitz -Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11 - DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL; ZIONIST;

Richard Perle former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member; DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL; ZIONIST;

Douglas Feith effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL; ZIONIST;

Dov Zakheim Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported missing on 9-10-01; DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL; ZIONIST;

George Tenet director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the Medal of Freedom by Bush for his fine work on 9-11; reported to be DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL

Michael Chertoff Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security; DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL; ZIONIST; LIKELY MOSSAD AGENT

Michael Mukasey federal judge in New York ,radical Zionist of Russian Jewish parentage;DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL

Philip Zelikow led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction; appointed Counselor of US Department of State;DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL

Elliot Abrams former member of PNAC, National Security Council; pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra affair; DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL; ZIONIST

Lewis Scooter Libby former PNAC member; studied political science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for lying about outing of Valerie Plame; DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL; ZIONIST

William Kristol PNAC co-founder; adherent of Leo Strauss; editor of The Weekly Standard; strong advocate of the Iraq war; DUAL CITIZEN OF US AND ISRAEL; ZIONIST


And as far as being an Israeli citizen? FROM WIKIPEDIA -

"Responsibilities of citizens

Virtually all responsibilities are imposed upon citizens and non-citizen residents of Israel equally.

A responsibility which is imposed on Israeli citizens only is the requirement to be in possession of an Israeli passport at all times when outside of the country. Israeli citizens must thus have acquired a passport before being allowed to leave Israel.

Military service is legally mandatory for virtually all of Israel's citizens and residents although various exemptions can be granted. Certain ethnic groups, such as Arab Israelis, have received a blanket exemption.

An Israeli citizen is obligated to abstain from assisting a country or an organization which is defined as an enemy of Israel. Such assistance may lead to deprivation of citizenship at the advice of the Minister of Internal Affairs (in addition to a possible trial concerning criminal proceedings)."

(so how does this fit in with Dual Nationals in US government, and finding peace in the Middle East?}


Next - Lieberman wants Israeli citizens to support an "oath of allegiance - like US citizens make...how can a US dual national ever uphold this?

Cleveland Jewish News > Archives > News > Nation & World > ISRAEL VOTES 2009:<br />Lieberman loyalty proposal finds support in U.S.

"Lieberman loyalty proposal finds support in U.S.

There were a lot of people who said, 'Hey, that's disloyal,' Foxman told JTA. That's what he's talking about. He's not saying expel them. He's not saying punish them.
Lieberman, 50, has proposed requiring a loyalty oath as a condition of Israeli citizenship. Those who refuse -- Arab or Jewish -- would have their citizenship revoked, though they'd be permitted to remain in the country as permanent residents."

Then have a look at these links (the guy that wrote this is formemrly jewish, but later, catholic.

Quite intersting...and if I was an American citizen, I'd be furious! - I don't fully understand the implications that Kenedy was assisting them, as I have read many other accounts where JFK signed his death warrant by pissing off Ben Gurion, in refusing the Israelis to manufacture nuclear arms...there are a few grey areas true!

Benjamin H. Freedman ― Seven U.S. Presidents, Jewish Pawns



A better written summary of the first article...
A Jewish Defector Warns America by Benjamin H. Freedman


With friends like these....
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair1126.html


This is quite interesting, (they forgot to mention too, that by birth Winston Churchill was jewish, on his mothers side!
Why Have All of These Infamous Zionists/Nazis Changed Their Names?, page 1

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I recently posted about the lies that the so called "Jews" had for years held every Christian over a barrel with..i.e.

What are 'so calle Jews'?

As well as denying the holocaust, are you denying that they are even Jews?

Otherwise, why the 'so called'?

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

they forgot to mention too, that by birth Winston Churchill was jewish, on his mothers side!

That is not a secret. Why should it be mentioned in that article?

Be a good thing to visit the Holocast Museum & see for yourself... missmig

Originally Posted by Lily

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

I recently posted about the lies that the so called "Jews" had for years held every Christian over a barrel with..i.e.

What are 'so calle Jews'?

As well as denying the holocaust, are you denying that they are even Jews?

Otherwise, why the 'so called'?

Yes, exactly, the Jews are not JEWS, there was no "English word for "Jew" prior to about 1750.

The "JEWS" that claim Palestine are descended from Khazacks, and are of Mogolian origin, displaced from every place they inhabited due to their barbourous behaviour, they have never ever in their entire existence ever even stepped one foot into the "Holy Land".. so please, before you comment, at least have a bit of "Nouse" to do a bit of research!

The Zionist "Jews" of Israel, have nothing to do with Palestine, they are closer to the Mongols of Ghenghis Khan, these people are not JEWS!

There were no Jews when Christ was around, not as defined as JEWS, please go and have a read!

Holocast Denial ?

no thanxs .

There never was a holocaust---it was the biggest lie ever perpetrated and there is irrefutable evidence of the impossibilty of the deaths of 6 million jews. The Red Cross were allowed access to all concentration camps during the war and were hppy with the conditions in the camps and later even publically stated that less than 1.5 million jews died in the concentration camps. They even attributed the majority of these deaths to being caused by the Allies who bombed gemany mercilesly in the final months of the war hence destroying the germans ability to feed the prison camps and they made recorded presentation of these claims to the allies

Why is questioning the holohoax illegal in so many countries??? Maybe it is because it never happened. On Jewish websites piles of bodies are shown ---but many of these pictures are the bodies of innocent german women and children killed by allied bombs in Dresden and other places.
It is time for the western world to wake up and question history as it is taught and seek the truth.
The results of doing this would shock most of you.

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

And, of all the documents seized by the Russians /Allies after the war (WWII) and there were tons, there is not one SINGLE document that relates to GASSING, or KILLIN, JEWS!

Yup, 6 million or so of them wandered off to the lost city of Atlantis.

You see, like some reptiles, the Jew can live underwater for sustained periods.

The dirty inferior kunts.

Originally Posted by enoch wasright

It is time for the western world to wake up and question history as it is taught and seek the truth. The results of doing this would shock most of you.

shit, just as well I live in the Eastern world. We still believe in mermaids and monsters. I pity the stoopid Westerners and the importance they place on actually studying history.

Originally Posted by enoch wasright

There never was a holocaust---it was the biggest lie ever perpetrated and there is irrefutable evidence of the impossibilty of the deaths of 6 million jews. The Red Cross were allowed access to all concentration camps during the war and were hppy with the conditions in the camps and later even publically stated that less than 1.5 million jews died in the concentration camps. They even attributed the majority of these deaths to being caused by the Allies who bombed gemany mercilesly in the final months of the war hence destroying the germans ability to feed the prison camps and they made recorded presentation of these claims to the allies

Why is questioning the holohoax illegal in so many countries??? Maybe it is because it never happened. On Jewish websites piles of bodies are shown ---but many of these pictures are the bodies of innocent german women and children killed by allied bombs in Dresden and other places.
It is time for the western world to wake up and question history as it is taught and seek the truth.
The results of doing this would shock most of you.

EXACTLY!!
We have been lied to for all of our lives by those that it suits!
At last a FUCKING DECENT answer by someone who has actually read something!

Many of those bodies were also due to diease caused by the lack of medical supplies getting through to the camps... (and don't bitch about camps..what did the Americans do to the American Japanese) The British and Americans devasated the rail and road links throughout Germany, makingthe transportation of supplies impossible, the British and Americans probably killed more civillians than the so called "Nazis" ever did...and anyone commenting on when the Jews shot up your American servicemen on that warship..you seem a bit quiet...is it some sort of DENIAL?

There were no Jews when Christ was around, not as defined as JEWS, please go and have a read!

So Christ was not a Jew? Wow, this can't get better...was he a Christian, pagan, what?

I could more easily subscribe to him being the son of the Roman, Panthera, over the yarn of a virgin being impregnated, some claim via the ear.

As for whatever reason, my last post was obliterated, but ask yourself this!
At the beginnig of WWII there was approx. 460K Jews in Germany, and if I recall around 13 million worldwide, after Hitler murdered 6 million of the 460 thousand..oops something wrong there!
Check the world census, but after the war there was between 15.8 million and 18 million, strange that!
The Jews, despite having 6 million of them gassed, actually increased in population by more than is physically possible...apperently, every Jew family would need to have had 9 children during the war to account for this figure!
Seems a bit suspect to me...all the while those EVIL GERMANS were cutting up babies, and gassing them by their millions, what a pack of lies!

I apologise for my previous post, muggins, having read a bit more on what you and enoch are slobbering over, I realise it was wrong to feed your delirium with a response.

Good luck, have a nice trip.

Oh boy - we have holocaust deniers in our midst.

Jewish Population of Europe Before the Holocaust Map

Originally Posted by enoch wasright

The Red Cross were allowed access to all concentration camps during the war and were hppy with the conditions in the camps and later even publically stated that less than 1.5 million jews died in the concentration camps.

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

the British and Americans probably killed more civillians than the so called "Nazis" ever did...

You really shouldn't use the word 'probably' when trying to present an argument.

You see it shows that you are uneducated in the actual facts that you are attempting to convince others of.

Okay, carry on.

OP:

I agree that there are too many Zionist Jews in government, and this is a problem in the US.

Slowly, but steadily, more and more Americans are becoming aware of this.

They hold too many position in foreign policy positions in the US government.

Originally Posted by keda

There were no Jews when Christ was around, not as defined as JEWS, please go and have a read!

So Christ was not a Jew? Wow, this can't get better...was he a Christian, pagan, what?

I could more easily subscribe to him being the son of the Roman, Panthera, over the yarn of a virgin being impregnated, some claim via the ear.

Yes, Shrist was NOT a Jew as defined by what constitutes a current JEW!
He (if he was around) was a Judean, from Palestine or that area, the so called "JEWS" that form Israel are nothing to do with Christ, they are a race of warmongering Khasaks from Eastern Europe, nothing to do with the Holy Land, and let's see one of them prove their lienage!

They are from the Mongol race, banished from every country they ever visited, due to their warring nature.

Please, don't believe that the current Israeli's are any decendants of Palestine!

They are more akin to Russinas than Arabians/ Muslims/ Palestinians, please, don't trust me, go and dig, the one thing that the 20th century has actually given us, is the ability to look for the alternative, via the internet, it is probably the greatest thing this world has ever had, and thankfully, at least up to now, it cannot be governed by the Zionists!

If that makes you think I am Anti Semitic, go and take a look at who controls virtually every maiinstream mass media...and then ask yourself the question WHY!

*yawn*

Check the world census, but after the war there was between 15.8 million and 18 million, strange that!
The Jews, despite having 6 million of them gassed, actually increased in population by more than is physically possible...apperently, every Jew family would need to have had 9 children during the war to account for this figure!

Now the census you are basing your trolling argument is, as you say, 'physically impossible'.

You're really not very good at this, are you?

D minus. (at best).

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Originally Posted by Missismiggins

the British and Americans probably killed more civillians than the so called "Nazis" ever did...

You really shouldn't use the word 'probably' when trying to present an argument.

You see it shows that you are uneducated in the actual facts that you are attempting to convince others of.

Okay, carry on.

Disagree,
you have to use "probably", because none of this is clear cut, it is still coming out after all these years.

If you went back 10 years, the commerative stone outside Auschwitz said "4 million people (Jews) were murdered here by Nazis, however, now the stone reads "1 Million People were murdered here by Nazis," Hence the use of the word "PROBABLY"

It would PROBABLY have been better if the JEWS had used PROBABLY or "MAYBE" more often, we are not perfect, we can make mistakes, and it is only by going through the documents and statistics that PROBABLY end up giving us a true picture of what PROBABLY happened. I can't turn the clock back to see what ACTUALLY happened, therfore, I can only say PROBABLY, obviously, you still think that ACTUALLY 6 million were gassed..not PROBABLY or MAYBE or DOUBTEDLY?

Anyway, Probably, maybe, definately, almost, certainly, absolutely, we can all agree that maybe, somebody probably definately did die in the last war, and after stoking the fire for a bit of debate, which, I may say has proved to be a bit more lively than the sometimes drolefull whine on some of these forums, (and I hope everyone doesn't take everything too seriously..especially me) It appears my glass is empty, and I must retire for a refill.

But, seriously, if you have a bit of time on your hands...rather than masturbate and look at porn, have a look at a few of the links I posted, they do deserve a bit of thought/debate.

Lastly, before I head off to the realms of an alcholic paradise...why do the Americans have HUNDREDS of Holocaust memorials? Like, did the Jews die in America? We have memorials in the Uk to commemorate our war dead, we don't have memorials in there hundred commemorating the jews, the catholics, the blacks...why America..and why the Jews....lest we not forget (or lest we not get told the truth!)

I prefer masturbation and pornography, thanks, and by a lot.

You really ought to visit the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC, Missismiggins. It's very well put together.

Originally Posted by Milkman

OP:

I agree that there are too many Zionist Jews in government, and this is a problem in the US.

Slowly, but steadily, more and more Americans are becoming aware of this.

They hold too many position in foreign policy positions in the US government.

Sorry, couldn't sleep just yet!

Your post is exactly what I am referring to, the USA now has an Alien Power that controls it's government, the American people don't count, all the legislation, (and you wait..it will all be in favour of minorities) will stack up against you, until YOU are the minority in your Home country.

I really do not know that much about what you are talking about, and I truly doubt that you do either.
But I do know that my dad was in an armored company that took some other camps, I do not remember which ones and dad is dead so can not ask him.
But I do remember when he came home and just as he was coming across the country by train on furlough the japs said UNCLE and so he didn't have to go to the Pacific.
And he was gone for awhile for and got his discharge and when he came home to stay he had a book that his division had printed up and he had a lot of pictures of his own that him and others had taken, And I still remember what was in that book and the pictures he had of some horrible shit, Train with boxcars loaded with dead body's that looked like skeletons with hide covering, piles of starved people,
You dudes are claiming that they were taken of casualties from US bombing raids, but the hundreds of people that they had taken pic of were not regular people, they were either starved to death or were very close to being dead and some still behind the barbed wire, and no one I saw had had a good meal in awhile.
So someone is full of shit and I don't think it was my dad when he was telling my uncle about it, and so what if Jew was not a word Until 1750, They were Hebe's as far as I can tell, no matter what they were called, words have also changed meanings,, GAY used to be a fairly nice word meaning happy and carefree, now it means queer, used to call Blacks Niggers, now they are African Americans,, so what.
So from what I have seen and heard from folks that were there and did see it, you my friend are full of shit..
So you might make this work in another 75 years but not now.