Sarah Palin

**raycarey** · 16-09-2008, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Palins 8 years of executive experience

yeah, we know....

**britmaveric** · 16-09-2008, 11:26 AM

Don't pay taxes on per diem - its work related Ray.

**raycarey** · 16-09-2008, 11:27 AM

brit you've proven many times that you have very little knowledge of things american, so i'd suggest you read the link.

one can only hope that you know more about your own country...but i have my doubts.

That would appear to make Wasilla the governor's tax home, which would mean that under IRS regulations, any per diem she received for staying in that home is considered taxable.

if she hadn't been such a greedy bitch and tried to screw the alaskan taxpayers out of that $17K (for staying in her own home for god's sake), she wouldn't be facing these allegations right now.

**Bugs** · 16-09-2008, 11:30 AM

I would agree some of the luster has worn off the Palin pick. But she did wonders to turn this race on it's head. Sure there is a chance that the gains McCain has made since her selection will eventually all be eaten away. But I don't think any other VP pick (out of those mentioned time and again as options) would have place McCain ahead in the weeks after the conventions.

Hot off the presses:
The Associated Press: In Palin, GOP sees chances with swing voters

Not only has she helped to shore up the red team base:

Palin's greatest gift to McCain so far appears to have been in shoring up support for him among core conservatives, who have held the Arizona senator at arm's length but embraced the Alaska governor enthusiastically. She's a darling of the GOP base for her conservative positions, most notably her strong opposition to abortion in almost every case, telegraphed vividly each time she appears with her infant son Trig, who has Down syndrome.

She also seems to be helping with independent and some ex-Clinton supporters:

Beyond that, though, Palin is giving McCain an opening with a crucial group of swing voters — many of them women like Thibault — who espouse traditional values but are working class and mostly concerned about the economy.

Some of them had previously supported Clinton because she connected with them on pocketbook issues.

No doubt McCain-Palin won't get the majority of ex-Clinton supporters, but they will get some, and as tight as this race seems to be every bit helps.

And this artical is even giving Palin some credit for attracting Reagan Democrats:

Like the so-called "Reagan Democrats" of the 1980s, they are economically liberal and socially conservative. In bad economic times, they lean toward Democrats who promise help on key pocketbook issues, but they're drawn to Republicans because of their stances on cultural issues.

More on McCain-Palin's growing appeal to the independents:
Independents swing toward McCain - John P. Avlon - Politico.com

In the wake of Sarah Palin, John McCainhas opened up a 15-point lead among independents, according to a new Gallup Poll — and Barack Obama has a real problem.

**Norton** · 16-09-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Bugs

But she did wonders to turn this race on it's head.

Fully agree. She did pull the party together. Also, the bump in the polls will subside in a few days.

She will now have to prove she was a good choice by showing she has what it takes to play in the big league.

**Texpat** · 16-09-2008, 11:51 AM

i hope she paid tax on those payments

Per diem is not taxed, Ray.
Brit is right and you're angry.

**raycarey** · 16-09-2008, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

Per diem is not taxed, Ray.

normally it isn't.
but when palin decided to screw the taxpayers of alaska out of 17K, it seems like she she opened herself up to a legitimate tax liability.

why doesn't she just release her returns and let the american people and the IRS take a look?

Originally Posted by Texpat

you're angry.

oh man...far and away the angriest poster on TD (and quite possibly the angriest person in thailand) is calling someone else angry.

**aging one** · 16-09-2008, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

She will now have to prove she was a good choice by showing she has what it takes to play in the big league.

We will soon find out she cant hit the fastball or the hard curve and she will be sent back down to triple A ball.

**raycarey** · 16-09-2008, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

triple A ball

triple A?

she purely bush league.

pun obviously intended.

**aging one** · 16-09-2008, 12:05 PM

Do you think this could be John McCain looking for Sarah Palin. And sorry.

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**Jet Gorgon** · 16-09-2008, 12:07 PM

She won't um and err and and... her way through. She''ll use her brain.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Texpat

Per diem is not taxed, Ray.

normally it isn't. but when palin decided to screw the taxpayers of alaska out of 17K...

17K?

Oh, sorry, that's probably more than your annual sabbatical pay for your ethereal doctorate, ray. Didn't mean to belittle your income total.

**raycarey** · 16-09-2008, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

17K?

so what's the limit jet? how much is acceptable for a sitting governor to cheat on her taxes?

25K?
50K?

let me guess ....it depends which party they belong to, right?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Oh, sorry, that's probably more than your annual sabbatical pay for your ethereal doctorate, ray. Didn't mean to belittle your income total.

oh, man. as i've said to boon mee....it always brings a smile to my face when i read this silly attack of last resort.

quick question jet.....if you're such a hotshot investment banker, and you've made it plainly clear that you have a clear desire to live in america.....why haven't one of the top investment banks in NYC scooped you up?
it's not like you have any ties to canada....personal or otherwise.
just wondering.

and btw, i thought you 'retired'.

**Bugs** · 16-09-2008, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

Do you think this could be John McCain looking for Sarah Palin. And sorry.

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Looks more like Obama looking for Biden - does anyone even know where Biden is these days?

I heard they were going to trade in Biden's big ol' campaign bus and plane for a 1970's era VW bus, and a Cessna; and they would still have room left over to pick up hitch hikers.

Of course one can not really blame Obama for not putting Biden front and center Biden does not really fit the mold Obama laid out for his form of government (at least not back when Obama was running against Clinton). Back then Obama was all about how he had shown better judgement than Hillary be cause he did not support the war with Iraq (whoops Biden did), and how he (Obama) is all about change and how we can not have the same ol' same ol' in the top jobs (whoops Biden is more of the same ol' same ol'), and then Obama ran an ad about how McCain came to Washington way back in '82 (whoops Biden moved to Washington back in '73). Talking about the bush leagues it looks like it's three strikes and Joe is out.

Well maybe not out, but certainly off the radar right now.

**Jet Gorgon** · 16-09-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

quick question jet.....if you're such a hotshot investment banker, and you've made it plainly clear that you have a clear desire to live in america.....why haven't one of the top investment banks in NYC scooped you up?
it's not like you have any ties to canada....personal or otherwise.
just wondering.

and btw, i thought you 'retired'.

1) I do work for a top US financial firm in NYC.
2) I am in Canada for personal reasons.
3) People with brains never retire.

**raycarey** · 16-09-2008, 12:49 PM

jet, i guess you missed this part, so i'll post it again. please don't dodge it, because you've already got quite a reputation for that, and i'm sure you don't want it to get worse.

Originally Posted by raycarey

so what's the limit jet? how much is acceptable for a sitting governor to cheat on her taxes? 25K? 50K? let me guess ....it depends which party they belong to, right?

well, jet?

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

3) People with brains never retire.

uh-oh texpat.

and btw, jet....

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I retired at 39.

https://teakdoor.com/us-domestic-issu...tml#post612638

**Jet Gorgon** · 16-09-2008, 12:51 PM

Sorry, should have said, never really retire. Else we'd have mush for brains like you, rc. That's also why I'm taking new fin courses. Always something new to learn.

**raycarey** · 16-09-2008, 12:52 PM

keep dodging jet.

but a woman you're age has to be careful about breaking her hip.

**Jet Gorgon** · 16-09-2008, 12:58 PM

Hips are fine. Worried about my hair with my new roller-blade activities.

**barbaro** · 16-09-2008, 01:39 PM

Here's is Palin's interview with Charles Gibson. Note: it's part 3 out of 4.

Topics are taxes, earmarks, and accusing Obama of raising taxes, when he's actually going to cut them.

**barbaro** · 16-09-2008, 01:54 PM

Here is part 2 out of 4.

This section focuses on the "bridge to nowhere." And she also supported an earmark for a "road to nowhere" that cost 48 million dollars.

She also repeated her convention speech during campaign stops in several states, simply repeating what she said during the convention.

She's just another politician:

**Jet Gorgon** · 16-09-2008, 01:55 PM

Watched that but dismissed it, MM. You can see the blurs where abc cut parts.

**barbaro** · 16-09-2008, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Watched that but dismissed it, MM. You can see the blurs where abc cut parts.

I didn't notice. Yes, I am always suspicious of interviews because of the editing, clipping, and chopping.

My point is: she's just another politician.

She claims to be an outsider. She isn't.
She claims to be a "Maverick." She isn't.

Another politician.

With 6 weeks to go, the media is getting tired of her, as the news runs 24/7. Her novelty is starting to wear off.

The media does this with many high-profile people.

**Jet Gorgon** · 16-09-2008, 02:06 PM

Sure she's just another poli. But so are all of the candidates. She seems to have more personal conviction than the others, IMO.

**raycarey** · 16-09-2008, 02:58 PM

jet, either answer the question or just say you're not going to answer it.

this sort of dodging is unbecoming for a woman of your age.

**nidhogg** · 16-09-2008, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

She seems to have more personal conviction than the others, IMO.

Isn't that one of those "subjective nouns" or the like? i.e. I have personal convictions, you are a bigoted loony?

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