Thread: Safe Injection Sites

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Firstly, the money the mafia made before prohibition was chicken-shit compared to what they made during prohibition.

Thats beside the point, you said,

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

If you read your history books, prohibition was the cause of the rise of the mafia.

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

You can't compare booze to legalizing drugs.

Why not?

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

The drugs would be controlled by government, not private companies

Booze is too, ATF controls all booze sold in the USA. it is just made by private companys.
And drugs would still be made by the same ones that make it now..

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

The Mexican drug smuggling cartels, and the mafia will get out of drug distribution, just as they did with booze distribution.

Just that they will be doing legal business without the high cost of illegal operations, same as Scotch and tequila distillers that used to run booze into the USA thru outfits like the Joe Kennedy clan in Mass. up until the repeal of Prohibition.
Legalization of drugs will only make more junkies on the streets because more will be able to afford it.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Are you too cheap to protect your kids from these scum?

Originally Posted by Texpat

Can you buy some balls?

Originally Posted by Texpat

Grow a pair.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Don't be a pussy.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Bullshit nonsense.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Another sellout halfwit.

jesus.

Basicly, if something's not working, it might be a good idea to consider alternatives.
That's what each of us do in real life, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Texpat

You know the right thing to do is to get them off the street. But you can't. Don't get me wrong -- the US can't either -- yet. But giving up is pathetic.

continuing to try the same thing despite 3 decades of failure......

is also pathetic.

I'm not sure about providing needles etc., on this issue, but I do think marijuana needs to be de-criminalized. Talk to any high school kid at the best high schools and they will tell you 80-90% of the kids smoke pot.

We're either heading for a society of convicted felons or we've got to come up with some better answers, at least on pot.

Since I am interested in this subject, I scanned through this thread, but wish I hadn't.

More MKP material than reasoned discourse, a common experience in Issues these days...

I don't know what can be done, Education will not do it, Control of drugs by governments will not do it, Maybe with the safe injection places you can prevent more deaths due to hot shots or accidental ODs and the clean needles might prevent some AIDS, but then after you have done this what do you end up with?
About 5 times as many worthless junkies as you would have had by letting them kill themselves.
Seems like everyone just wants to take up a cause and do something for some asshole that can not do anything for himself.

I'd look at it as a mercy-mission.

If someone cannot afford a needle (they are not freely available without prescription everywhere, btw) and is gone beyond the ability of doing a clean injection, then they are care cases to be regarded as afflicted by an illness, just like mentally disturbed dossers and homeless drunks in the streets.

How the lowest members of a society are treated, is a measure for the level of civilisation IMO.

Originally Posted by stroller

How the lowest members of a society are treated, is a measure for the level of civilisation IMO.

that's what some on here just can't seem to grasp....these people are member of society, and need to be cared for. for whatever reason, these people can't look after themselves, and the other members of society have an obligation to look after them....and at the very least make sure that they don't needlessly spread disease.

but the bottom line is that these addicts can't be discarded simply because they're inconvenient.

You're right. Marijuana was oulawed because they wanted to get rid of excess Mexican labourers during the depression. Smoking pot was seen as a "Mexican vice".

You are partly correct, but it was not the beaners and the Great Depression because the depression had came to an end by 1937.

When marijuana was made illegal across the country in 1937, racism was again a major factor. Black jazz musicians were the main fringe group targeted this time.

Henry Anslinger, the director of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics at the time, had this to say: "There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others." and "...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

and more, bring up that link and read it.

| Illuminati News | The Marijuana Conspiracy - The Real Reason Hemp is Illegal
In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.

Originally Posted by Texpat

So you're a teacher who freely admits to smoking pot. Fantastic. Gotta be proud of that

I'm a teacher-trainer, actually.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Couldn't get into the Army.

I'm 43!

Originally Posted by Texpat

But has the future of dozens of little canadian (future) dopeheads in your hands. Nice.

Hope you're proud of that.

I train adults, not children, or teenagers. Adults. Not particularly exciting, I know, but you seem to think it's scandalous!

Why? Who cares?

Evidently not the police in Vancouver. They might sell you some though.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Were the streets of the 19th and early 20th century really clogged with opium, cocaine and marijuana crazed criminals raping, murdering, and looting their way through society while civilization collapsed around them?

Revisit your Chinese history re: 1839–42 and 1856–60

That seemed to have worked out favorably -- for the British.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Revisit your Chinese history re: 1839–42 and 1856–60

What's the relevance of this to anything in this thread, Storky?

Legalized opium brought China to its knees dumbass.

And how does this compare to the present situation in Canada and the US, fuckwit?

what a thick fucker, legalized drugs will double tha addicts at least and add them to the ones that should be dead and you gonna have a lot more useless assholes around that will not do anything for themselves.
Plus most unions now are into periodic drug testing for members and if it comes back pos, you are out.

Would you stick a needle up your arm just because you could get one for free and buy the dope in a dispensary, blackpuke?

I don't know anybody who would.

Originally Posted by blackgang

what a thick fucker, legalized drugs will double tha addicts at least and add them to the ones that should be dead and you gonna have a lot more useless assholes around that will not do anything for themselves.

BG, what planet are you on? Is it our planet, but in a parallel universe, or is it a completely different one, altogether? Just curious.

Do you mean to say that, in your estimation, if Drugs were made legal and shooting gallerys staffed with medical personal that the use of drugs and addiction/addicts would not increase?
Is that the way things happen on your planet??

Originally Posted by November Rain

BG, what planet are you on? Is it our planet, but in a parallel universe, or is it a completely different one, altogether? Just curious

But I do see that even tho illegal here, you are still smoking those Left Handed Luckys.

Originally Posted by November Rain

You should be very careful who you accuse of illegal activities,

Just the way you reason things it appears that you are looking thru that Blue Cloud..