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    Please point out where I am sanctioning hard drugs. I am against drugs as much as the next sane person. The problem is, there is a world problem with drugs. Even places such as Thailand which has harsh punishments for such offenses. Until our governments have an answer to this problem, its left to other sections of society to offer the best short term solution within their power.

    Nobody is giving up at all, like I said, just trying to alleviate the burden on society. Of course its primarily about cost. Come on! you comeing from capitalist capital of the world should understand that more than others. Even if you brought in the death sentence for being an addict, youd still be hanging from morning till noon. Suppose it would solve some of the world population problem.

    When has a government ever regulated laws and populace in order to reflect the wishes of the people? Fok me there more bent than the guys/girls on haight and ashbury.
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    Don't back down -- is it OK or not OK?

    Grow a pair. Make a stand. Either you're going to tolerate herione and coke heads or you're going to try and stop it.

    The wishy-washy bullshit in this post is sickening.

    And I'm not suggesting it's unique to any single country. (fortunately not mine)

    Is it OK or not? Mixed messages, as any public relations pro will tell you is the worst possible scenario.

    Don't try to poo-poo this issue. Legal or not?

    If it's illegal, round 'em up an put 'em in jail.
    If it's legal, be prepared to bear the brunt of internation condemnation.

    Don't be a pussy. Spell it out. Where do you stand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Why isn't he making busts there? You're quickly slipping into gibberish.
    Ummm, because
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    I assume you think the "war on drugs" started by Reagan is a success? Because it's been repeatedly assessed as a failure.
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    Nobody's claimed that
    Repeatedly arresting and criminalizing addicts for possession makes no difference, the primary failure of the war on drugs you appear not to support. Many police rightly consider this to be the health and social problem it so clearly is.
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    And you've freely admitted to using drugs on this forum. Can you admit you're a criminal? Are you a felon?
    No, what do you think?
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    Are you a teacher? I think you've mentioned you're a teacher. And a drug user. Is that OK where you're from?
    Possession or public smoking of small amounts of cannabis (if that's what you're referring to ) is not prosecuted where I live due to public sentiment and police preference. Is that ok with you?

    Because on other threads you've taken the line that if a substance is illegal in a given country, then the law is right and visitors must beware, correct? No, we don't fill our jails with pot-smokers. Drunk-driving, however, or driving while stoned, gets you a mandatory 1 year driving suspension, $2,000 fine and a lifetime criminal record.
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    So you're a teacher who smokes pot or does heroine or cocaine?

    Right?

    Gotta be proud of that. Hope your kids are watching.

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    It would not be so bad from the governments who allowed or brought the drug in the country to help the addict consumers. If they had done their job, drug had never entered any occidental country. But it was maybe too much profit or some other reasons to resist. It's surely not the freak coming back from Asia with 30 grams of heroin sticked inside his ass who could intoxicate as many consumers.

    "cia drug trafficking" returns 88100 entries in Google cia drug trafficking - Recherche Google
    and every country has his share in the disaster.

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    Bullshit nonsense.

    How much comes into the country is immaterial. Demand should not dictate legislation. Another sellout halfwit.

    Because most of your countrymen love to fuck 6-year-old boys, should that make it ok? Nah, didn't think so. Is plutonium transfer across borders OK. No. Get wth the program dumbass.

    Does your country condone it or not. Is heroin and cocaine acceptable on your streets or not?

    Quit making excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Don't back down -- is it OK or not OK?

    Grow a pair. Make a stand. Either you're going to tolerate herione and coke heads or you're going to try and stop it.

    The wishy-washy bullshit in this post is sickening.

    And I'm not suggesting it's unique to any single country. (fortunately not mine)

    Is it OK or not? Mixed messages, as any public relations pro will tell you is the worst possible scenario.

    Don't try to poo-poo this issue. Legal or not?

    If it's illegal, round 'em up an put 'em in jail.
    If it's legal, be prepared to bear the brunt of internation condemnation.

    Don't be a pussy. Spell it out. Where do you stand?
    Whos backing down on anything? As I have i have stated, I am against drugs full stop. They do nothing but ruin lives.

    Grow a pair! You have no idea.............

    What exactly is wishy washy, I thought I`d made it clear, Obviously too much sauce tonight.

    Like I said, the world aint black and white (thats something I`ve learned as I`ve gained life experience) unfortunately. Its tainted with all shades of grey.

    I also stated that its all down to money, and anyone who believes otherwise, quite frankly has their head in the sand.

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    First sense you've made today.

    'Specially if you're so fiscally strapped as to be ineffectual in all other matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    So you're a teacher who smokes pot
    Yes, occasionally. So what?
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    or does heroine or cocaine?

    Right?
    Wrong. Your point? Smoking pot occasionally is the same as being a cocaine or heroin addict?

    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Gotta be proud of that. Hope your kids are watching.
    I don't smoke pot in front of my son. Btw, is it ok if a child sees their parent drunk?

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    So you're a teacher who freely admits to smoking pot. Fantastic. Gotta be proud of that.

    Couldn't get into the Army. But has the future of dozens of little canadian (future) dopeheads in your hands. Nice.

    Hope you're proud of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootad Binky
    I don't smoke pot in front of my son. Btw, is it ok if a child sees their parent drunk?
    Is there a difference if your kid see you drunk and acting like an idiot because he knows you are drunk, or because he sees you stoned and acting like an idiot and has no clue as to the reason??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr
    So, if these clinics had been around at the time, your oldest son would still be alive and so would his brother.
    OH Yes, they pobly would and I am just a little to old now to be going Armed into shooting gallerys where they would be living and under threat of death from the resident darky dealers because of unpaid debts for drug purchases and taking them home or to rehabs where they would live for short periods and then do it all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    you're willing to, as a society, overlook the law (what are the cops and judges doing?) and give them a hug?
    The law. If you Americans had respected the law, you'd still be British.

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    "Taxation without Representation" is bullshit, just the same as being ruled by a foreign country, and England has found that out.

    Yanks won't go for that shit, lots of others won't either.

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    ^ Sorry, BG, I genuinely don't understand that remark. Are you simply talking about the War of Independence, or is there some other meaning that I'm not catching re British policies today?

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    How To Win The War On Drugs.

    Legalise all drugs.
    Government takes control of supply.
    Tax the shit out of it.
    Educate against it.

    This would:-

    a. Keep the addicts out of jail (it's a victimless crime).

    b. Destroy all the criminal organisations that thrive on the drugs trade.

    c. No more overdoses, or deaths due to lethal mixes to cut the drug.

    d. Will raise money by taxes and savings from not putting people in jail, instead of throwing billions away on an unwinable "war".

    e. Educate against it like they have done with tobacco. Cigarette smoking has gone from 'Cool' to seriously 'Uncool' in my lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    you're willing to, as a society, overlook the law (what are the cops and judges doing?) and give them a hug?
    The law. If you Americans had respected the law, you'd still be British.

    55555555555555555555555555 (ref to sir burr's comment - The Law....)

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    The solution to the problem is to make the laws more strict and to inforce them.

    The bull shit I have read on this board is nothing but a sell out as Texpat has said and he is right on with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr
    Legalise all drugs. Government takes control of supply. Tax the shit out of it. Educate against it.
    Exactly. Make it boring. Make it safe. Make it clinical. Make the addicts who turn up for their dose sit in a padded cell while they dose up and then let them back out when the effects wear off. My feeling is it would lose a lot of its appeal, and street crime would drop by 50%.
    The sleep of reason brings forth monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr
    The law. If you Americans had respected the law, you'd still be British.
    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    Sorry, BG, I genuinely don't understand that remark. Are you simply talking about the War of Independence,
    That was in answer to Burr on the bullshit he posted.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr
    How To Win The War On Drugs. Legalise all drugs. Government takes control of supply. Tax the shit out of it. Educate against it. This would:- a. Keep the addicts out of jail (it's a victimless crime). b. Destroy all the criminal organisations that thrive on the drugs trade. c. No more overdoses, or deaths due to lethal mixes to cut the drug. d. Will raise money by taxes and savings from not putting people in jail, instead of throwing billions away on an unwinable "war". e. Educate against it like they have done with tobacco. Cigarette smoking has gone from 'Cool' to seriously 'Uncool' in my lifetime. __________________
    Just as this post is all bullshit dreamed up by an Opium smoker undoubtedly.

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    If BG and Ceburat ever agree with one of my posts, I'll know that I have become:-

    1. Old.
    2. Curmudgeonly.
    3. Narrow-minded.
    4. Found God.

    I will PM my address, someone please put me out of my misery and shoot me.

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    That bullshit you posted is reminiscent of Prohibition and the way that the American public quit booze when it was dropped and everyone stayed sober and there are no more alkies loose in America today.
    And it really did nothing on cutting down on Organized crime either.
    So where in the fuck do you draw your insight from that it will work on drugs when it did nothing for drunks.????

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    That bullshit you posted is reminiscent of Prohibition and the way that the American public quit booze when it was dropped and everyone stayed sober and there are no more alkies loose in America today.
    And it really did nothing on cutting down on Organized crime either.
    So where in the fuck do you draw your insight from that it will work on drugs when it did nothing for drunks.????
    If you read your history books, prohibition was the cause of the rise of the mafia.
    It also didn't stop people drinking.
    Once prohibition was repealed, the mafia had to find other ways to make money.
    Prohibition makes my case, not yours.

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    Mafia came over with Dagos before prohibation and were already here when it was set into motion and stayed long after it was repealed, and after it was dropped the boozing only got worse and you think that druggers with decrease after repeal of drug laws???
    and you think this will
    b. Destroy all the criminal organisations that thrive on the drugs trade.
    Give me a puff off that shit before you put it out..

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    Firstly, the money the mafia made before prohibition was chicken-shit compared to what they made during prohibition.

    You can't compare booze to legalising drugs.

    The drugs would be controlled by government, not private companies.
    There won't be The Peruvian Cocaine Classic on the golf tour.
    No advertising on TV, or billboards.
    No establishments dedicated to selling hard drugs on every street corner.

    The criminal organisations that will go under are the South American drug cartels.
    The Mexican drug smuggling cartels, and the mafia will get out of drug distribution, just as they did with booze distribution. Because there won't be any money in it for them.

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