Thread: Chinese Whispers

Originally Posted by Mendip

When I used to work a lot in West Africa around a decade ago, I reckon that flights to/from the region were at least 30% Chinese. They play it slow but will take over eventually.

10 billion Chinese v 10 billion Muslims for the planet within 100 years.

Plagues and homemade machetes v Nuclear suicide bombs. Get the popcorn out.

Originally Posted by Edmond

10 billion Chinese v 10 billion Muslims for the planet within 100 years.

Plagues and homemade machetes v Nuclear suicide bomb.

But whitey is doing just great these days, eh.

Originally Posted by cyrille

But whitey is doing just great these days, eh.

When not having his head sawn off in the middle of a street by a Sudanese lad, like was attempted in Norn Iron yesterday.

Didn't they use to have a biff every year about this time when it was the Orangemen marching through town?

Seems like they just like a biff at this time of year.

Originally Posted by cyrille

the Orangemen marching through town?

Belfast's like one giant Wolves kit nowadays, seemingly.

The Great China Auto Crisis: Huge Debt and Abandoned Vehicles Signal Shifting Industry Realities

The global automotive sector is watching a dramatic structural shift unfold within China. For years, the Chinese domestic car market experienced rapid, government-supported growth. However, recent market data indicate that domestic demand is shrinking while production capacity remains heavily oversupplied.


According to data released by the China Passenger Car Association, nationwide retail sales of passenger cars fell significantly in May 2026. Total retail units reached 1.51 million, marking a 22% drop compared to the previous year. Year-to-date sales fell nearly 20%, illustrating a broad cooling of consumer enthusiasm across the world’s largest automotive market.


Key Takeaways


Plunging Retail Sales: Nationwide passenger vehicle sales dropped 22% year-on-year in May 2026, while electric vehicle sales dipped 7%, showing weak consumer demand.


Trillion-Yuan Debt Load: Eighteen listed Chinese passenger automakers hold combined accounts payable and notes exceeding 1 trillion yuan, with BYD, SAIC Group, and Chery holding the largest liabilities.


Extended Vendor Payment Cycles: The average payment turnover time for the industry has surged to 217 days, putting severe cash flow pressure on upstream parts suppliers.


Rising Safety and Regulation Concerns: Car manufacturers face public scrutiny over smart driving accidents and door hazards, while Beijing attempts to restrict independent online product reviews.


The decline in consumer retail activity has hit traditional fuel-powered vehicles particularly hard. High oil prices have placed massive pressure on everyday drivers, driving down fuel car sales by nearly 39% in May. Observers expected this economic pressure to create a massive wave of buyers switching to electric vehicles.


While fuel cars accounted for over 80% of the overall market drop, electric vehicles failed to capture the missing volume. Even with high gasoline costs, domestic sales of electric options dropped 7% compared to the same period last year. This trend suggests that broader economic factors are influencing consumer spending habits beyond fuel preferences.


Rising Production Costs Threaten Entry-Level Electric Models


Smaller, budget-friendly electric vehicles once represented the primary entry point for working-class drivers looking to replace traditional fuel cars. However, entry-level fully electric cars saw wholesale numbers plunge 44% in May. Their total market share has dropped from over 20% down to just 10% in a brief period.


Industry analysts blame fading government subsidies and high raw material costs for this contraction. Without substantial state policy support, manufacturers cannot produce these small vehicles at prices lower-income consumers can afford. Consequently, the segment with the highest potential to replace combustion engines now faces severe survival risks.


Behind the drop in sales lies a massive, growing mountain of debt that is worrying corporate regulators in Beijing. Financial disclosures from 18 listed passenger car manufacturers reveal that total accounts payable and notes have surpassed 1 trillion yuan. Major industry leaders find themselves sitting on top of the largest financial liabilities.


SAIC Group, BYD, and Chery Automobile represent the top three entities burdened by these substantial short-term obligations. By the end of the first quarter of 2026, these three companies held individual payables ranging between 128 billion and 251 billion yuan. This massive debt accumulation highlights the high financial cost of maintaining rapid industrial expansion.


Payment Turnover Cycles Stretch Out for Hundreds of Days


With cash flow tightening, Chinese automakers are choosing to delay payments down the supply chain to preserve their own capital. The average payment turnover cycle across the industry has climbed to 217 days, an increase of 27 days since last year. Over half of the licensed auto manufacturers in the country have extended their payment periods.


Some individual brands are taking much longer to clear their bills with parts suppliers. Haima Automobile now averages 480 days to settle obligations, Zotye Automobile takes 461 days, and Seres requires 337 days. These numbers completely break previous industry promises that supplier payment terms would never exceed 60 days.


The root cause of these unpaid bills and stretched supply chains is a severe mismatch between factory capacity and real consumer demand. By 2025, China’s total domestic car manufacturing capacity will have exceeded 50 million units. This massive infrastructure represents double the actual production volume recorded during the prior year.


With more than 130 domestic manufacturers holding production licenses, fierce competition has destroyed profitability. Average auto industry profit margins dropped from above 6% down to just 4.1% over five years. In the first quarter of 2026, profit margins dipped to 3.2%, which sits far below the general manufacturing average.


Luxury Intelligent Systems Cause Severe Highway Accidents


In addition to financial pressures, new energy vehicle makers face growing public scrutiny regarding software reliability and passenger safety. On May 6, 2026, a high-profile accident involving a luxury BYD Yangwang U8 occurred on a highway in Guizhou. The vehicle rear-ended a slow-moving truck while operating under full intelligent driving assistance.


The luxury sport utility vehicle entered a highway tunnel at 112 kilometers per hour before crashing. The driver suffered a spinal fracture, while a passenger sustained more than 20 fractures, requiring an extended stay in the intensive care unit. The incident sparked intense online debate regarding the true maturity of autonomous driving systems.


Safety complaints are not limited to highway driving software; physical body components have also caused problems for consumers. In June 2026, a buyer in Suzhou suffered a fractured thumb when her Xiaomi SU7 electric suction door activated unexpectedly. The vehicle door snapped shut while her hand was still inside the frame.


Social media platforms contain dozens of similar reports from owners experiencing severe bruising or fractures from these automated doors. Xiaomi customer service confirmed that the model’s electric suction doors lack anti-pinch protection mechanisms during the final closing phase. The company apologized and stated that tech teams are evaluating potential future software updates.


Camera Malfunctions: Blurry Vision for Autonomous Drivers


Another major manufacturer, Changan Automobile, faces collective consumer complaints regarding the camera hardware utilized for driver assistance systems. Over 300 owners of high-end models have reported that a mysterious oil film develops over vehicle cameras shortly after delivery. This film severely blurs nighttime vision and blocks essential safety sensors.


The problem specifically affects advanced models equipped with specialized lidar and inner windshield cameras. Because the film forms inside the housing, owners cannot simply wipe the exterior glass clean. The blurred imaging causes autonomous driving systems to behave abnormally, occasionally triggering emergency braking when no obstacles exist.


The camera complications follow a darker safety incident that took place late last year involving a Changan vehicle. In October 2025, a model operating under smart driving assistance slammed into a stationary semi-trailer in a fast lane. The highway collision resulted in the instant deaths of a family of three inside the vehicle.


These recurring accidents have made consumers increasingly skeptical of the bold self-driving capabilities advertised at corporate press conferences. While initial launch orders for new sedans regularly exceed tens of thousands of units, sales often taper off quickly. Consumers show reluctance to buy when negative news regarding software glitches begins to spread online.


Beijing Restricts Independent Product Reviews Online


Faced with a flood of negative consumer feedback, regulatory authorities in Beijing have implemented strict new internet guidelines. The Cyberspace Administration of China recently issued updated rules targeting online product review activities. The new policy mandates that all product tests for cars and electronics must be conducted by legally accredited testing institutions.


The regulation effectively bans everyday tech enthusiasts and independent mechanics from publishing independent vehicle tests on social media. Officials claim the rules will eliminate exaggerated reviews and hidden advertisements. However, ordinary consumers argue that these measures are simply designed to shield domestic manufacturers from public criticism and legal accountability.


With domestic demand shrinking and regulatory tension rising at home, Chinese automakers view international expansion as their only survival path. However, overseas markets are presenting major trade barriers. In ongoing trade negotiations, the United States government is pushing for much stricter local sourcing rules within North American production lines.


New proposals require that any vehicle built in Mexico must utilize at least 50% US-made components to qualify for zero-tariff treatment. This rule targets Chinese brands like BYD and Geely, which are actively building factories in Mexico to bypass direct American trade sanctions. US lawmakers are also drafting legislation to permanently block Chinese-connected cars.


The European market is also growing increasingly cold toward the arrival of imported Chinese electric vehicles. Following high-level closed-door meetings, the European Commission issued statements warning that current trade relations with Beijing are entirely unsustainable. European policymakers are united in their desire to protect domestic manufacturing from heavily subsidized foreign competition.


The European Union is currently designing new policy tools to counter what it calls improper state subsidies and industrial overcapacity. Economists warn that these tightening global restrictions could have a devastating impact on China’s auto giants. If these companies cannot break into Europe and the Americas, the auto sector could face a sudden, systemic collapse.

The Great China Auto Crisis: Huge Debt And Abandoned Vehicles Signal Shifting Industry Realities | Chiang Rai Times