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    Homophobia

    it seems to me that homophobia is quite prevalent in society ---of course this is the case in some more than others.

    IMO homosexuality is considered tolerable by thai society, but not really accepted. most thai homosexuals don't have to fear being beaten or killed simply for being gay, but it seems to me that they are not taken seriously by society at large simply because of their sexual preference....and i believe that this is a form of homophobia.

    and in some western societies, gays aren't allowed to marry or have legal protection against discrimination. "jokes" on TV, radio routinely demonize homosexuality, and in some cases entire careers are founded on this type of "entertainment".

    and even on this forum, homophobic slurs are frequently used in an attempt to silent dissenting opinion. granted the posters who resort to this type of behavior aren't credible, but these types of posts are common all the same. in fact, it is often used as an accusation. i have little doubt that the usual suspects will soon be replying to this thread in their usual "style", but IMO to respond to directly to these posts only adds credence to the slur. by replying directly to a claim of this kind, one is acknowledging that there is something wrong about homosexuality.

    so, i'd be interested to read your thoughts on the topic....

    do you agree or disagree with the above?

    have you ever been called homophobic? please provide details of what happened?

    what does the term mean to you? is it real, or just "PC"?

    if you're gay, have you experienced homophobia? please provide details of what happened.




    here's a quick quiz that tests whether or not you are homophobic...

    frontline: assault on gay america: how 'homophobic' are you?

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    Interesting. You will notice that the female members here are often called Lesbians or dykes. I think the insult behind this is that Lesbians are really just women who cant get a man which even denies them a true sexuality.

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    queer bashing has never been my thing. i could care less who people fuck as long as they are of age and its consensual. having said that i do get uncomfortable being hit on.

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    ^^Can't improve on this. Good!

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    as for gaffing dear lillith with occasional graphically sexual post (though always heterosexual, i believe) i plead guilty. it gives me pleasure.

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    I find gay bashing just childish. It is all too prevalent on this board and only serves to make the poster look immature.

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    do you agree or disagree with the above?

    no.

    have you ever been called homophobic? please provide details of what happened?

    nope.

    what does the term mean to you? is it real, or just "PC"?

    erm, overused, same as the nazi term.

    if you're gay, have you experienced homophobia? please provide details of what happened.

    i'm not.

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    All you pooves can stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    IMO homosexuality is considered tolerable by thai society, but not really accepted. most thai homosexuals don't have to fear being beaten or killed simply for being gay, but it seems to me that they are not taken seriously by society at large simply because of their sexual preference....and i believe that this is a form of homophobia.
    Perhaps, but when seemingly a large percentage of the gay community behave like absolute vacuum brains, what do you expect? To me it seems they are desperately trying to live up to the stereotype (as in loud, vulgar and without a care in the world). Perhaps if they could just try to get on with their lives like everybody else, instead of making such a friggin' big deal about being gay, they would get more respect.
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    and in some western societies, gays aren't allowed to marry or have legal protection against discrimination.
    In many countries they can register their relationship and are given similar rights as married couples, but for some obscure reason, they seem to insist on having "marriages". Also, they can't have children with each other, so they are now trying to get the right to adopt kids. I sometimes get the impression that the object is more to provoke and alienate the rest of society than trying to gain acceptance.

    To me gay couples should have the right to register their relationship, given the same right as hetero couples in terms of taxes, social services and inheritance. But there it stops.

    Marriage is a religious affair - most religions frowns upon homosexuality. You are not going to change any religions, so just forget about calling it a wedding. Call it a civil union, registered relationship, whatever - no-one really cares, but let marriage ceremonies be as they have always been - between a man and a woman.

    Because you are gay, you are unable to have a child with your partner. Tough luck! Your choice - live with it. If you really love children so much, who not sponsor a child's education (locally or in a third world country) or volunteer to help out in an orphanage. As for adopting a child and having it live and grow up with you - I am sceptical. Just as you probably had some pains coming to terms with your sexuality when growing up, wouldn't the child (who statistically is much more likely to be heterosexual than gay) grow up thinking it is something wrong with him/her for feeling attracted to the opposite sex?

    Basically I don't think most people are homophobic, but I believe many are fed up with gays making such a big deal about being gay. Gay parades, for instance - what is the point? And why do they have to be so vulgar? Are there no gay people with class, consideration for people who are different and with other interests than their own sexuality? There must be, but they have probably let the drama queens steal the show.
    Any error in tact, fact or spelling is purely due to transmissional errors...

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    ^^
    I scored 17 which makes me not quite as high grade non homophobic as you.

    I'd love to see blackgang's result.

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    Ray homosexuality occurs by nature only in about .10% of the population.

    Most people don't have the inclination. The question you should pehaps be asking is whether homosexuality occurs by nature or by art or both.
    I think both. I think many homosexuals decide to be homosexual as a counter culture artifice.
    So Ray do you think were born gay or perhaps something you decided as an adult?

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    'projection' is another subtopic that will need to be discussed on this thread.

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    ^^^ 14 for me. Does that make me higher or lower grade than you & Benbaa? Mind you, it says it was designed for heterosexual males, not females & I firmly believe women in general are more accepting of homosexuality (in both genders) than men are.

    In answer to the questions:

    do you agree or disagree with the above?

    I find your post a bit melodramatic, but I basically agree with it.


    have you ever been called homophobic? please provide details of what happened?

    No, never

    what does the term mean to you? is it real, or just "PC"?

    Homophobia exists, it's not just a pc term. I guess it's an extreme dislike of someone based simply on their choice to have sexual relationships with members of the same gender. I've never experienced feeling it, though, so that's just my take on it.

    if you're gay, have you experienced homophobia? please provide details of what happened

    N/A

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    'homophobia'? I don't know many people afraid of poofs.
    pho·bic
    (fō'bĭk) Pronunciation Key
    adj. Of, relating to, arising from, or having a phobia.
    n. One who has a phobia.
    pho·bi·a /ˈfoʊbiə/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[foh-bee-uh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.
    Homophobia is a term created by the gay community to use to label and vilify people who disagree with their lifestle.

    By the way.
    47 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic." In his 1996 study of 64 white, male college students, Dr. Henry Adams classed 29 participants as "non-homophobic." Their mean score was 30.48. This is not conclusive, however. Dr. Adams, the researcher who helped develop this scale, writes that "a major difficulty of this area of research is in defining and measuring homophobia." Elsewhere, he cautions: Since there is no universally accepted definition of homophobia, the scales currently in use may not measure all aspects of homophobia.

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    ^^ i guess i should have been more clear.....you don't have to answer all the questions, just the ones that are applicable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    I think the insult behind this is that Lesbians are really just women who cant get a man which even denies them a true sexuality.
    interesting. or perhaps the woefully insecure are lashing out because this is yet another woman that they have no chance of having a sexual relationship with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    homosexuality occurs by nature only in about .10% of the population
    link? and you might want to rethink that decimal point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain
    have you ever been called homophobic? please provide details of what happened? No, never
    You have never been called a lesbian?

    And you post on TD?
    Last edited by Lily; 29-11-2007 at 01:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    You have never been called a lesbian?
    she didn't say that, she said she had never been called homophobic.

    I fantasise about NR munching rug.

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    I'm not sure we're allowed to say munching rug in this thread.

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    I would say that it is about time that you posted about something that you are familliar with and somewhat of a self proclaimed expert on instead of things that you snatch from news articles and have no knowledge about but still post advise and opinions on.

    Good going Ray Baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    she didn't say that, she said she had never been called homophobic.
    I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    I'm not sure we're allowed to say munching rug in this thread.
    indeed.
    this is the issues forum.

    vulgar fantasies about board members lesbian lust will not be tolerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
    vulgar fantasies about board members lesbian lust will not be tolerated.
    But apart from sexual fantasies about lesbians, what do you think of their lifestyle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    homosexuality occurs by nature only in about .10% of the population
    link? and you might want to rethink that decimal point.
    I was curious whether you'd pick up on the decimal point.
    That decimal is a huge bone of contention amongst the gay population.
    The widely bantered 10% has long ago been discredited.
    link

    There is a fair spread in figures depending of the sampling and determining criteria.
    A minnesota study which narrowed the criteria came in around .1%.
    Figures of under 1% are generally accepted.

    The 10% figure would give us 30 million gay people in the USA. It just isn't so.
    This is the issue that I was once accused of being a homophobe over.
    It seems if you bring up a contentious issue for homosexuals which they haven't anything to counter with they will quickly try to label you as homophobic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    But apart from sexual fantasies about lesbians, what do you think of their lifestyle?
    I have no problem with it at all.
    was brought up around gay couples.

    My auntie (father's sister) is a lesbian.

    she has been with her partner since I was born.

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    I'm not in the slightest bit Homophobic, but was thinking of distributing these t shirts around TD just so I know who the bloody pooves are.


    I take it you won't want one Ray

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