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    This Government is starting to look shambolic.


    21 September 2024 10:01pm


    Less than two months after Sir Keir Starmer secured one of the largest majorities in history, his project is seemingly already unravelling. Once in power, Labour has presented a spectacle of arrogance, incompetence and hypocrisy. The British public is watching with a mixture of incredulity and outright disapproval.

    Sir Keir’s unpopularity in recent polls reflects the unprecedented fall from grace of a Prime Minister whose “holier than thou” rhetoric in opposition has come back to haunt him in office. All political honeymoons sooner or later come to an end, but in this case many voters are already contemplating divorce.


    The catalogue of blunders that ministers have contrived to commit in short order has dismayed even such lifelong loyalists as Harriet Harman, who said his approach to the recent row over clothes donations was “making things worse”. This week’s Labour Party conference ought to have been a moment to savour the triumph of July 4th. Instead, we have a Prime Minister forced to insist that he is still in control, a Foreign Secretary who is turning against Britain’s allies, and a Chief of Staff who is not only paid more but seems unafraid to show just how much power she truly wields.

    Sue Gray was once jokingly described by Sir Oliver Letwin as the person who “runs Britain”. Now, as she tightens her grip on the Downing Street machine, it is no longer a joke. We are told she is “going nowhere”. Nor is this Government until the Prime Minister gets a grip.

    Then there is Lord Alli, who seems to have been granted influence out of all proportion. He and other donors have bought new clothes not only for the Prime Minister and his wife but have also helped the front bench. We are only now learning the truth about the propensity of Labour ministers not only to accept favours and hospitality, but to keep this hidden from the public.

    Even worse for the country has been the ministerial habit, led by the Chancellor herself, of talking down the economy. Having robbed pensioners to indulge strikers, this Government has killed consumer confidence by threatening punitive tax rises. If Britain sinks into recession, there will be nowhere for Rachel Reeves and Sir Keir to hide.

    The mess that Labour has made of their inheritance in record time offers the Conservatives an opportunity.

    They need to get on with the task of electing a leader who can wreak havoc with this amateur shambles of a Government.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keir Starmer View Post
    set out and describe the better Britain that this ladders up to..
    "ladders" up to? FFS. What a knob.

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    I reckon it's Backspin again.

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    CGT and IHT reforms are imminent, the entitled spawn of the filthy rich are paying tax on their privileged education, itÂ’s all happening and the Tory right wing slime balls canÂ’t do anything about it which is why five of the Tory press publications are scraping the barrel in finding reasons to criticise Starmer.

    A few fucking clothes, a pair of glasses and trips to Arsenal !!??? Fuck me, chop off their heads, eh?

    You silly sclerotic old reactionary cvunts, youÂ’re so fucking skewed you couldnÂ’t lie straight in bed.

    So, how much did the Tory Mone and her slimeball husband make from their bullshit Medpro PPE contracts facilitated by the Tory government who took kickbacks? Yep, £60 millions.

    And you wankers are fucking around with a frock?

    And how much did BoJo the Clown lift from the London ratepayers account to give to his American slapper in return for his Tuesday afternoon shags? Yep, £120,000 and of course he got her trips on his private plane and sponsored her dodgy work visa.

    Christ, grow up Tax, you sound more like Farage every fucking day as you pick the equivalent of anal crumbs out of the Labour body politic.

    Just accept it, Labour are ruling the roost and thereÂ’s fuck all you can do about it other than read the redundant bilge from Tory hacks without any purpose to their worthless and now utterly futile little lives.

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    It really is absurd.

    15.3 BILLION quid's worth of COVID corruption 'red flags' versus free tickets for a PM to take his daughters to see Taylor Swift.



    Just a moment...

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    well, if its ok for holier than thou labour to do it, then it must have been ok for the tories to do it.

    make your minds up and cease the trademark inbred hypocrisy of champagne socialist gobshites like yourselves.

    we have cyrille, the tax dodging expat, suckled freely on the uk's socialist teat before hotfooting it for a tax free job, only tefling admittedly, but tax free, in a head chopping human rights free dictatorship, and s.a, the entitled privately educated spawn of a colonial expat family living it large in singapore before his brexit induced stroke rendered him terminally marooned in sleaze central.

    oh the hypocrisy and irony of you two.

    just listen to this two faced grifter, after giving train drivers already on £60k for a 4 day week a pay rise of £10k and depriving poorer pensioners of their £300 heating allowance, trying to worm her way out of her £14000 freebie birthday party

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1837762175693095329

    socialism has never, ever left a country better off.

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    Except for the three labour administrations between 1997 and 2008 when thousands of lower paid workers were able to buy their own properties and enjoy a boom only to be destroyed by the depredations of the irresponsible private sector money grubbing banksters.

    Tax, who cares what you think, you’re a fossil as desiccated as a month old dog turd.

    For fourteen years the lower paid were stretched on the rack of Tory austerity economics when most public workers saw a fall in incomes of 18%.

    It’s a reset time, if City lawyers and shyster accountants are getting absurd rises and bonuses then it’s time for a levelling.

    As I said, you’re fucked, you’re irrelevant.

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    shyster ..... rises .... bonuses ..... time for a levelling.
    have you notified HMRC that you are not a resident of the UK, or are you still a hypocritical leftist grifter illegally receiving your full UK state pension whilst "working people" and impoverished pensioners in the UK struggle to pay their bills and have to decide whether to"heat or eat"

    the lower paid are usually lower paid bacause in most cases instead of improving their qualifications and work experience their time was wasted down the pub, the betting shop, on the sofa or taking the easy route to money by becoming involved in burglary, car theft, drug dealing and mugging, or opening their blotchy fat legs at every opportunity as they progressed on the journey to single parenthood, council flat living, benefits and a life of spitefulness fuelled "its not my fault innit" penury.

    so fuck em.

    take life seriously and you will thrive. guaranteed. fuck about and poverty awaits.

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    from rachel reeves speech to the labour conference 2 years ago.


    "Last April on a cold Spring evening I knocked on the door of a pensioner in my constituency. When I reached out to shake her hand, it was purple and freezing cold. Already, back then she was afraid to put the heating on, struggling to get by on the small pension she had built up through a lifetime of work. As energy bills and inflation rise even higher, I often think of her. That is the stark reality facing people all around our country today".

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    the hypocrisy of these people.

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    ^ If that woman had stopped smoking, didn't go on as many foreign holidays, refrained from getting silly and expensive tattoos, driven a more economical car, drunk less alcohol and played less bingo she'd have built up a decent pension and would have been able to afford to put the heating on just like you, tax.

    Or are you somehow sympathetic to the pensioner now that it suits you to use her example to have a dig at Rachel Reeves and the Labour Party?

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    Or are you somehow sympathetic to the pensioner now that it suits you to use her example to have a dig at Rachel Reeves and the Labour Party?
    i was merely highlighting her hypocrisy.

    many oldies rely solely on their state pension, the lowest in the western world and cutting it by £300 will cause great hardship to those people. the ones who smoke, rink, spaff their money down the betting shop and go on expensive holidays will be able to adjust their spending habits, but there are many who will not have that luxury.


    and talking of hypocrisy.


    Angela Rayner drinking whisky through a straw and other images taken by £68k ‘vanity’ photographer



    Angela Rayner, grinning from ear to ear, stares into the camera as she slurps a whisky cocktail through a straw.

    The snap, from a trip to the Johnnie Walker Experience in Edinburgh last month, was taken by the Deputy Prime Minister’s new “vanity” photographer.

    It is one of more than a dozen public moments that have been captured by Simon Walker since she hired him on a reported salary of £68,000.

    Ms Rayner faces accusations of hypocrisy over the appointment, given her fierce criticism of Tory ministers’ use of government photographers.

    Ms Rayner left herself open to criticism after a 2021 tweet resurfaced in which she attacked Boris Johnson for spending on government photographers.

    “Instead of spending more taxpayers’ money on more photographers for the sake of his own vanity, the Prime Minister should prioritise feeding the children who will go hungry in half term next week and families facing £1,000 cuts to Universal Credit,” she wrote.

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    and talking of hypocrisy.

    Cayman Islands hedge fund donated £4m to Labour days after election called
    Party accepted contribution just before election campaign rules – which require weekly declarations – came into force


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    23 September 2024 7:56pm
    A Cayman Islands hedge fund handed Labour its largest-ever donation just days after the general election was called, it has emerged.

    Quadrature Capital Limited, whose parent company is based in the Caribbean tax haven, donated £4 million to Sir Keir Starmer’s war chest.

    Labour accepted the donation just before campaign rules kicked in requiring parties to make weekly declarations during the election period.

    The disclosures come as No 10 is embroiled in a row over the scale of gifts handed to frontbenchers including the Prime Minister and Chancellor. Downing Street is also facing growing questions over its reliance on a handful of large donors and the potential influence they could wield.

    Quadrature Capital is registered in central London and invests on behalf of Quadrature Group, whose funds are Cayman Islands-based.
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    labour? taking money from hedge funds? based in offshore tax havens? surely not!!

    oh the hypocrisy of these money grabbing, self serving, 2 tier, dont do as i do, do as i tell you socialist ratbags.

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    Yes tax, you'd enjoy life much more if Labour were not in power and had no money.

    That's clear.

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    All the years of finger pointing piety and moral outrage from Labour in opposition but in truth they are no better, they are all the same, their morals adapt to the situation.

    Labour fixer who worked for Lord Alli helped select MPs


    Matthew Faulding, who was in charge of candidate selection for this year’s general election, was on secondment to the Labour donor


    Matthew Faulding, who was in charge of candidate selection for this year’s general election, worked in Lord Alli’s office on secondment from his firm BM Creative Management in the months before the poll.


    He was blamed by critics of Sir Keir for “parachuting” favoured candidates into constituencies, imposing them on local Labour associations. He is now secretary of the Parliamentary Labour Party, “keeping them all in check” according to one former member of Labour’s National Executive Committee (NEC), who described the arrangement as “rotten to the core”.


    It came as Lucy Powell, the Leader of the Commons, said Labour would not change the rules around MPs accepting so-called freebies.


    The Labour Party conference has been overshadowed by a row over Lord Alli’s donations to Sir Keir Starmer to buy clothes and spectacles. Lord Alli was given a Downing Street security pass in what has been dubbed the “passes for glasses” controversy.


    He is attending the conference but has kept a low profile, shunning the main conference hall and fringe events. On Monday afternoon he was spotted leaving the conference secure zone, when he walked past Bridget Phillipson, the Education Secretary, who did not acknowledge him.


    When a reporter for Sky News asked him about the controversy, he said: “Please don’t – this is not very nice.”


    Some Labour members are angry that Lord Alli’s influence appears to have extended to the selection of Labour candidates, many of whom are now MPs.




    Mark Seddon, a former Labour candidate who served on the NEC and is now director of the Centre for United Nations Studies at the University of Buckingham, said on X: “The same Matt Faulding who fixed the selections is now Secretary of the Parliamentary Labour Party, keeping them all in check. Rotten to the core.”


    The journalist Michael Crick reported before the election that candidates parachuted into constituencies included Josh Simons, the former director of the Starmerite think tank Labour Together, who is now MP for Makerfield; Calvin Bailey, MP for Leyton and Wanstead; James Asser, former chair of the NEC and now MP for West Ham and Beckton; and Luke Akehurst, MP for North Durham, who was seen as Sir Keir’s enforcer on the NEC.


    Sir Keir had previously promised not to impose candidates on local party associations, but during the general election he was accused of breaking that promise and “riding roughshod” over the wishes of members.

    ‘Starmtroopers’


    Those on the Left of the party accused him of flooding the country with “Starmtroopers” to purge Labour of anyone deemed to have diverged from the party line.


    Some members resigned in disgust after having candidates imposed from above rather than being able to interview and select their own candidates.


    Mr Faulding, 35, was a deputy director of Progress, the Left-wing think tank, and was also a director of the Lowick Group, a strategic communications consultancy, before he worked for Lord Alli.


    ‘We want to be transparent’


    At a Labour conference fringe event on standards in public life, Ms Powell said she would “very strongly refute” the suggestion that the Government was “in hock” to “vested interests”.


    “Campaigning is an expensive business and you do have to raise money. That’s why there are quite tight rules around that and people have fallen foul of it. So perhaps that’s just sort of how things are at the moment and [we have] no plans to change that.”


    She acknowledged there were still “many” issues around “culture and behaviour” in politics.


    But she said Labour politicians held themselves to higher standards than the Tories, which was “why we are transparent, and we want to be even more transparent around some of these things as well”.


    Defending her own record on taking handouts, she said the “vast majority of the so-called freebies” she had accepted were “attending official events” in her former role as the shadow culture secretary.


    Lord Alli and the Labour Party were both contacted for comment.

    Labour fixer who worked with Lord Alli helped select dozens of MPs

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Yes tax, you'd enjoy life much more if Labour were not in power and had no money.

    That's clear.
    the only thing patently clear cyrille is that you, sequestered as you are in that part of the country known to be home to the strangest of the strange, are a very odd character indeed, and one who is barely on nodding acquaintance with reality.

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    Whatever Labour do, they will never be able to destroy the UK quite as well as Boris managed with Brexit.

    All this stone turning in the hope of trying to find some dirt that will stick is quite amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Whatever Labour do, they will never be able to destroy the UK quite as well as Boris managed with Brexit.

    All this stone turning in the hope of trying to find some dirt that will stick is quite amusing.
    Well we'll see Troy. My point is that Labour have been taking the moral high ground for so many years but in reality they are just as grubby as all the rest.

    We'll see what Eeyore has to say later.

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    ^^

    brexit has not destroyed the uk, not taking full advantage of the freedoms of brexit may have though.

    .... and the eu is hardly enjoying life in the "sunny uplands" these days, the doom and gloom there is worse than that in the uk.

    it's not even about socialism vs. conservative, its about hypocrisy.

    from hansard. 17/11/21

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    I thank my hon. Friend for mentioning the Good Law Project. Over the past couple of weeks we have been talking about the sleaze and corruption we have seen. The Prime Minister spoke at Prime Minister’s questions about how sleaze and corruption affect the UK. I say to him and to Conservative Members that it is not the UK that is sleazy and corrupt, as we have seen in how the UK has responded to the sleaze and corruption; it is this Government who are sleazy and corrupt.

    Sam Tarry Portrait Sam Tarry (Ilford South) (Lab) - Hansard -
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    The problem is that the Government are rotting from the head down. The Prime Minister has to get a grip on his own actions, bearing in mind he has appeared before the sleaze watchdog three times and he had a corrupt track record as London Mayor. We cannot stand on a global stage and say we are not a corrupt country until he is cleaner than clean.

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    My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This goes to the nub of the problem. The Prime Minister—even when asked to apologise by the Leader of the Opposition; even when his Ministers have already apologised; and even when Conservative Members will not attend this debate because they are embarrassed by their Government’s actions—refuses to accept his responsibility. That is why we are calling for transparency today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    and talking of hypocrisy.


    labour? taking money from hedge funds? based in offshore tax havens? surely not!!

    oh the hypocrisy of these money grabbing, self serving, 2 tier, dont do as i do, do as i tell you socialist ratbags.
    Poor Tax, heÂ’s quite beside himself with rage and frustration.

    The Covid corruption enquiry unit are gathering steam and the blood on the floor from that alone will be sufficient to stain the Tory slime for a generation such is its magnitude of sleaze.

    The thing is, nothing so far compares with the sleaze of BoJo the Clown whose predilection for swimming in the rancid pools of the largesse donated by shills, fellow travellers and ex- KGB agents is only exceeded by his pathological priapism.

    And why was nothing raised among the Fourth Estate about his moral corruption for over a decade?

    Well, when over 80% of that industry is either run by Tory shills or KGB oligarchs, itÂ’s not difficult to understand, is it.

    Tax, you lap up your Tory hack rhetoric like it was mother's milk, so easily manipulated, a senescent bigot encrusted in the barnacles of his prejudice and embittered loathing born out of a resentment and envy only an isolated and marginalised dentist can build.
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    Just being competent will put Labour leagues ahead of the tory performance.

    It's not as if they have to be living on supplies from food banks

    I wonder for how much longer these two splenetic pensioners on here will be searching through Angela Rayner's bins, and why.

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    as i said, you incontinent old piss dripper, this is not about left versus right, its about the hypocrisy displayed by that horsefaced gobshite angela rayner and her vindictive and spiteful colleagues.

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    Oh, what a shocker.

    Party seemed more virtuous in opposition than it does in power.



    The same as after every election in your lifetime.

    Grow tf up and have some honey with those sour grapes.

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    Tax, is it a Jewish thing, this complete and utter lack of proportionality and perspective.

    You are comparing the merest susurration of a passing eructation emitted betwixt the lips of spirited disciples of decency with that huge blast heralding the stinkiest defecation from the distended anus of the worst succession of Tory governments since 1832.

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    Well, I'm not sure I understood a word of that SA.
    Interesting that you pick 1832, it was the start year for political history back in the early 70's. Wellington was actually defeated by Earl Grey in 1830. One of those trivial things that stick in the memory. Earl Grey tea was the memory jogger, you should enjoy a cup before your afternoon nap.

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