Thread: The View, from China

Originally Posted by sabang

Well, if you wanna call it garbage- up to you Joe.

What are you blathering on about? That shit propaganda piece is direct from the CCP and has nothing to do with Harvard.

Originally Posted by HuangLao

As has been the case for a good few hundred years.

FOJ

Like candy from a baby.

The survey team found that compared to public opinion patterns in the U.S., in China there was very high satisfaction with the central government. In 2016, the last year the survey was conducted, 95.5 percent of respondents were either “relatively satisfied” or “highly satisfied” with Beijing. In contrast to these findings, Gallup reported in January of this year that their latest polling on U.S. citizen satisfaction with the American federal government revealed only 38 percent of respondents were satisfied with the federal government.


“We tend to forget that for many in China, and in their lived experience of the past four decades, each day was better than the next.”
— Tony Saich, Daewoo Professor of International Affairs and director of the Ash Center

Long-term survey reveals Chinese government satisfaction – Harvard Gazette





I'm just the messenger, baby Joe.

Originally Posted by sabang

Like candy from a baby.

You pathetic moron, I was not talking about some stupid poll. I was talking about your shit propaganda piece from the CCP site. That said the fucking article is written by a Chinese student from Beijing you idiot. Hardly balanced and impartial.



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some stupid poll.

You Americans seem to have an aversion to Polls these days.

Originally Posted by sabang

Must be soo hard trying to be Capt America these days.


"U.S. set fire in Ukraine, then asks China to put it out"
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-01-29/U-S-set-fire-in-Ukraine-then-asks-China-to-put-it-out-17dj9bidij6/index.html

More chinky propaganda. How original.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

More chinky propaganda. How original.

...and tedious...don't forget tedious...

Originally Posted by sabang

“We tend to forget that for many in China, and in their lived experience of the past four decades, each day was better than the next.”

Is that what he meant to say?

Originally Posted by OhOh

China urges US to immediately correct its tariff mistake after WTO rulingWashington urged to immediately correct tariff mistake after ruling


By Chi Jingyi Published: Jan 27, 2022 10:52 PM

"China's Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) on Thursday called on the US to stop looking for excuses and take immediate action to correct its wrong practices against China in trade remedy investigations, saying the US' refusal to carry out WTO rulings hurt the global trade environment, after the WTO delivered another win for China in tariff disputes with the US.

The WTO on Wednesday ruled that China can retaliate against $645 million in annual goods trade with the US over Washington's anti-subsidy tariffs on Chinese goods, putting additional pressure on US President Joe Biden, who has so far refused to roll back his predecessor's illegal tariffs on Chinese goods despite dangerous levels of US inflation.

The outcome of this case is of great significance for addressing the US' illegal countervailing practices against China, safeguarding the legitimate trade interests of Chinese enterprises and defending the multilateral trading system, the MOFCOM said in a statement on Thursday.

In 2012, China filed a complaint at the WTO challenging the countervailing duties imposed by the US between 2008 and 2012 on 22 Chinese products, ranging from solar panels to steel wire. The dispute has been under review for nearly a decade.

A WTO arbitrator on Wednesday issued a ruling on China's countervailing measures against the US, holding that China may request authorization from the WTO's Dispute Settlement Body to suspend concessions or other obligations at a level not exceeding $645.121 million per annum against the US.

It is the second time that China has been granted a favorable ruling by the WTO concerning trade retaliation against the US. Previously, China was granted $3.579 billion in annual trade retaliation against the US in a WTO dispute over anti-dumping measures, according to the MOFCOM.

Analysts said that the ruling on Wednesday fully showed that the WTO has recognized the market economy status of China and its state-owned enterprises (SOEs), and it is expected that the success rate of appeals of SOEs in international trade will be significantly improved in the future.

The WTO panel found that the US Department of Commerce acted inconsistently with WTO rules because it determined that certain Chinese SOEs were "public bodies" based solely on the grounds that they were majority owned, or otherwise controlled, by the government of China.

Analysts also said that China's goal is not to raise tariffs but to push the US to lower them, though the US may still refuse to correct its wrong practices as it has done before.

"The US government did not follow the appellate body's ruling to modify or reverse the wrongful practices. In this case, China is authorized by the WTO to retaliate. But I think the US would still refuse to comply," Guan Jian, a partner at Beijing Globe-Law Law Firm, told the Global Times on Thursday.

The WTO ruling on Wednesday also piles up pressure on Biden to remove tariffs on Chinese products imposed by his predecessor Donald Trump, which have already been determined illegal by the WTO and are causing headache for the US economy.

A WTO appellate body judge ruled in October 2020 that additional tariffs imposed by Trump on $200 billion worth of Chinese products violated international rules. Biden has not removed the tariffs.

"Wednesday's ruling was different from the additional tariffs imposed on $200 billion worth of Chinese products in the Trump era," Hu Qimu, chief research fellow at the Sinosteel Economic Research Institute, told the Global Times on Thursday, noting that the Trump-era tariffs are mixed with political factors.

Analysts said that the White House is now facing a dilemma, as additional tariffs by both sides will continue to weigh on the US economy, particularly its sky-high inflation.

"China's manufacturing industry is not afraid of US tariffs, because US consumers paid and will pay for the tariffs imposed on Chinese goods, contributing to today's inflation in the US and even affecting current US monetary policy," Hu said.

The annual inflation rate in the US accelerated to 7 percent in December 2021, a fresh high since June of 1982, according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.


As a major world consumer market, the US imports a large number of industrial and consumer goods from China, and there are no alternatives, especially amid the COVID-19 pandemic, Hu noted.

He said that the US wanted to build manufacturing bases in North America, Mexico and Southeast Asia. However, manufacturing in these places has also been disrupted by the outbreak of COVID-19, and only China's manufacturing sector is functioning smoothly and providing goods and services to the world."

China urges US to immediately correct its tariff mistake after WTO ruling - Global Times

Another international body finds NaGastan breaking the "international Laws".

Oh FFS. Chinese hypocrisy knows no bounds. Havent seen you mention the hike in tarriff on Australian Barley yet you one eyed chinese stooge. The WTO whose rules are regularly flaunted by China is a paper tiger. They can do it because they know WTO decisions can take years. It's about as useful as having a council where any member can veto a proposal, although would anybody be that stupid to set up such a thing?
On a brighter note they can credit themselves for the formation of AUKUS and the increasing anti chinese feeling around the world. Their best effort after inflicting the worst pandemic on the world in at least a century was a vaccine that was as well made as most of the other crap they make. I look forward to the new chinese carrier being built. No doubt it will be considered a success if it survives the slipway.

The WTO whose rules are regularly flaunted by China is a paper tiger.

Well lets face it- they learnt from the best.

I see the chinkies want to put a spying app on every olympians phone.

Renounce Dalai Lama to get jobs, China tells Tibetans

Tibetans looking for work in their region’s state sector must first renounce all ties to Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama as a condition of employment, an official Chinese announcement says.


The directive sent on Tuesday to all provinces and municipalities of the Tibet Autonomous Region says that workers employed in Tibetan government offices, schools or hospitals must be “trustworthy and reliable citizens” and remain loyal to the ruling Chinese Communist Party.


They must also renounce the Dalai Lama and his followers, the directive says, referring to the group of supporters that has formed around the exiled spiritual leader over the years as a “clique.”


Speaking to RFA, a source in Tibet said that China’s new order further restricts the rights of Tibetans living under rule by Beijing and violates China’s own laws.


“Whether it’s for new employment, admission to schools, or promotion in your current job, your basic rights are denied if you don’t fulfill the conditions mandated by the Chinese government,” RFA’s source said, speaking on condition of anonymity for reasons of security.


“The Constitution of the People’s Republic of China clearly states that all citizens are equal before the law, so this new announcement denies Tibetans their basic rights. It is sad that the Chinese government’s need to control Tibetans living in Tibet is based on the strength of Tibetans’ loyalty and devotion to the Dalai Lama,” he said.


Tenzin Lekshey, spokesperson for Tibet’s India-based exile government, the Central Tibetan Administration, called China’s new order “a futile attempt by the Chinese government to force Tibetans inside Tibet to renounce the Dalai Lama and not respect their faith.”


“Instead, the Chinese government should fulfill the aspirations of the Tibetan people to resolve the issue of Tibet,” Lekshey said.


“The Chinese government has implemented many such strategies in the past,” added Gonpo Dhondup, president of the India-based Tibetan Youth Congress. “However, the loyalty and devotion felt by the Tibetans for the Dalai Lama has never faded.


“The Tibetan Youth Congress strongly condemns these policies imposed by the Chinese Communist Party,” he said.


Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader the Dalai Lama is widely reviled by Chinese leaders as a separatist intent on splitting Tibet, a formerly independent nation that was invaded and incorporated into China by force in 1950, from Beijing’s control.


The Dalai Lama, who now lives in exile in India, says only that he seeks a greater autonomy for Tibet as a part of China, with guaranteed protections for Tibet’s language, culture and religion.


Chinese authorities maintain a tight grip on Tibet and Tibetan regions of western China, restricting Tibetans’ political activities and peaceful expression of ethnic and religious identity, and subjecting Tibetans to persecution, torture, imprisonment and extrajudicial killings.

Renounce Dalai Lama to get jobs, China tells Tibetans — Radio Free Asia

In the build up to the 2008 Beijing Olympics, of course the 'Tibetan genocide' was the big MSM spin. All went quiet there, didn't it? A bit of Nostalgia!

The Tibetans are now all shiny happy people….


Surely you jest, sabang.

The Tibetan independence movie is dead MK- even the Dalai Lama no longer calls for it. But does that mean everyone is happy? Nope- is everyone happy in, say, Thailand or Hawaii? Silly question really. But most Tibetans do not want independence from China, and that's a fact. They are actually doing quite well these days, compared to the cripplingly impoverished place it used to be.

^ So, why do Tibetans have to renounce the Dalai Lama to hold a government job in Tibet, their homeland? Especially since the Dalai Lama is not a threat any longer.

Dunno- I just know that it comes from RFA. Not exactly the worlds most impartial source. If any response comes, I will post it here. Meanwhile you can always amuse yourself watching Youtube vids of life in modern Lhasa- sadly no malnourished beggars to be found these days, but plenty of Lexus.

^ Tis rich you disbelieve an RFA report but get snatched hook, line, and sinker by the Chinese “news.” Tibet is one of the most restricted places in the world. You would think a wonderful place with plenty of Lexus would allow foreign journalists in to show the progress. Yet, they do not.

Something to hide, no?

Originally Posted by sabang

The Tibetan independence movie is dead MK- even the Dalai Lama no longer calls for it. But does that mean everyone is happy? Nope- is everyone happy in, say, Thailand or Hawaii? Silly question really. But most Tibetans do not want independence from China, and that's a fact. They are actually doing quite well these days, compared to the cripplingly impoverished place it used to be.

What a crazy false equivalence to compare Thailand or Hawaii with Tibet. And how on earth would you know what most Tibetans do or don’t want? The fact is you don’t.

I believe a vlogger who has no particular political agenda wandering around and videoing IRL, and describing their observations and experience much, much, much more than I believe RFA- which (to state the bleedin' obvious) is totally agenda driven. Sorry MK, but that is the truth.

Originally Posted by sabang

I believe a vlogger who has no particular political agenda wandering around and videoing.

Seeings believing pal. And when you add to that the stellar domestic popularity rating of the Chinese government compared to ours, and the soaring GDP per capita, and the thoroughly modern infrastructure, well I figure they are getting it a lot more right than wrong.

There is a high speed rail connecting Tibet and lowland China now you know- fancy that. Between Aukus nations, there is not even one, single high speed rail line. How the worm turns.

sabang is a completely indoctrinated drone who swallows the chinky narrative like a five dollar whore.

Of course most Tibetans would rather not be part of filthy chinkystan, they want their religious freedom, not be told to worship Mr. Shithole like the rest of totalitarian shithole.

I think the reason sabang is so pro-chinkystan is that this excites him.

China Brings Back Anal Covid-19 Swabs Ahead Of Beijing Winter Olympics

Quote of the day from Bill Maher: "Surely that makes it a superspreader event".