Thread: The View, from China

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

had a bit of chinky in him

Travellers tip:

The Shanghai Bund and surrounding streets offers multiple choices for the inquisitive. The smaller Chinese towns less so.

Best to "hire an interpreter" prior to leaving the megacities, to ensure a trip to remember.

Similar to Thailand, I've been told.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Travellers tip:

The Shanghai Bund and surrounding streets offers multiple choices for the inquisitive. The smaller Chinese towns less so.

Best to "hire an interpreter" prior to leaving the megacities, to ensure a trip to remember.

Similar to Thailand, I've been told.

What the fuck are you wittering on about now?

Better learn to eat curry with chopsticks fellas- your self styled "International community" is a dwindling force.



Thought for the day

The Future is Asian




The world economy has radically changed over the past decade. The Asian share of global GDP has risen from 35% to 44%, and is likely to exceed 50% by 2030.




Today, the Asian share of global GDP is over 44%, whereas Europe and North America combined now account for a lot less: about 37%. An extraordinary change in a remarkably short space of time. Clearly mostly a result of the furious growth seen in China and India over the period, but mirrored by rapid growth in many other Asian nations.

If GDP growth differentials between the continents continue at anything like the rate established between 2010 and 2020, Asian GDP is likely to account for over half of global GDP by 2030. Evidence on current economic growth is less certain that usual, with the Covid pandemic, followed by the Russian invasion of Ukraine making a mess of economic trend data. There is evidence that the great growth engines of the past decade - the Chinese and Indian economies - have slowed down. However few economists believe that the difference in growth rates seen in the years prior to Covid, between the emerging economies of Asia, and the developed western markets, will disappear, particularly in view of the current political problems of America, and the uncertainty released by the vicious war launched in Europe by Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine.
The Future is Asian: | World Economics


"Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

So sabang has just realised the chinkies and jinglies are breeding like rats.

The fucking moron.

Are you scared 'arry? Do you feel the Hate rising? Do you long for another War?

Did the CPC really conceal Covid? Here’s the timeline, so you can check for yourself.

• 2019

Dec 27. Wuhan’s Dr. Zhang Jixian detects & reports suspicious cases
of a ‘pneumonia of unknown origin’ to CCDC. Three more patients arrive, all related to Huanan Seafood Market.
Dec. 30. Wuhan Municipal Health Committee issues notice of an unknown viral illness
.
Dec 31. A team
from Beijing investigates, informs
the WHO of “cases of pneumonia unknown etiology.” Since no medical worker was infected, they find
no evidence of human-to-human transmission, and verify
this on January 4. Wuhan announces the virus on CCTV and CGTN.December. CDC tests archived Red Cross blood samples from this month, discovers 4–6 million Americans were Covid seropositive.
2020
Jan. 1. Huanan Seafood market shut down.

January 2. WHO incident management system activated
across WHO country office, regional office, and headquarters.
Jan. 3. Dr. Gao Fu, head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CCDC), phones
the CDC’s Dr. Robert Redfield to warn him of the virus.Jan. 3. China reports 44 suspected patients with the mystery pneumonia, classifies it as highly pathogenic, orders all labs without high pathogen licenses to destroy or transfer samples to secure labs.

January 4. WHO reports
that Chinese authorities had informed it of “a cluster of pneumonia cases, with no deaths, in Wuhan”.
January 5, WHO’s Disease Outbreak News
: “There is limited information to determine the overall risk of this reported cluster of pneumonia of unknown etiology. The symptoms reported among the patients are common to several respiratory diseases, and pneumonia is common in the winter season; however, the occurrence of 44 cases of pneumonia requiring hospitalization clustered in space and time should be handled prudently.”Jan 8, ‘pneumonia of unknown etiology’ is identified as a novel coronavirus.
Jan. 9. Chinese labs begin genetic sequencing of the virus. China reports the death of an infected 61-year-old male in Wuhan with several underlying medical conditions.

Jan 9. Lovell “Cookie” Brown becomes the first known person
in the world to die with COVID-19. Her case was included in the CDC's official record of COVID-19 deaths.
Jan 11. China reports the first local death
from an illness caused by the virus.Jan 11. Beijing uploads the genetic sequence of the coronavirus to an international database and distributes preliminary test kits in Wuhan.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-you-thi...o-not-act-What

If the Chinese declared deaths due to Covid are to be believed, why have the Chinese taken such draconian measures against it?
It makes almost as much sense as Sabang telling everyone what a great nation they are.

Lockdown and travel restrictions in a huge chunk of the worlds geographic area, with a population of 1.4 billion only makes sense if there is something going on that China is very frightened about. Why are they so sensitive about the truth?

If the Chinese declared deaths due to Covid are to be believed, why have the Chinese taken such draconian measures against it?

I think the second half of your sentence answers the first half!

Sabang telling everyone what a great nation they are.

It does not require a sab to tell you China is a great nation. With a population of 1.4bn and the impressive 'economic miracle' of the past 30 years, which has lifted more humans out of poverty than at any other time in world history- it goes without saying. There are other great nations too, of course. USA/ JPN/ Ger/ Fra/ UK spring to mind.

Lockdown and travel restrictions in a huge chunk of the worlds geographic area, with a population of 1.4 billion only makes sense if there is something going on that China is very frightened about. Why are they so sensitive about the truth?

You are implying the whole nation is under Lockdown. Not so, far from it. But I reckon they are going to have to relax their 'Zero Covid' policy- the rest of the world has, so how can they stamp it out? Impossible- China is no longer the Hermit kingdom Uncle Xi.

^^ You should read that "Dollars End" D48. I've been thinking of bringing the overall topic up here, but I think it's just too cerebral for TD. Godfree Roberts is no eejut y'know- he has a Doctorate from UMass, Amherst.

Anyway, join me on the First class bullet train.

Originally Posted by sabang

Well, the graph is reportedly from the website ... www.daliaresearch.com/NATO





If I got the website wrong/or there is a forwarding link, please supply it.

If not, you are just reading and promoting BS

Originally Posted by sabang

Godfree Roberts

Maybe Godfree should change his name to Factfree Roberts

Originally Posted by sabang

Maybe you should read a bit more.

Try this if you like- daliaresearch – Medium

Do your own digging.

Why would anyone want to help you dig that hole you made, even deeper?

Originally Posted by sabang

Maybe you should read a bit more.

Try this if you like- daliaresearch – Medium

Do your own digging.

No thanks, I've done my dig and called you out and proved your source is just BullShit

But Sabang ... I'll give you a tip.

From that website you supplied, the latest article is from Jan 31, 2019

AGAIN ... the website ... www.daliaresearch.com/NATO does not exist ... hence Factfree Roberts

Mate, when I fact check stuff on here I usually get it right, but I do make an occasional mistake and hedge did point out once, it was a minor mistake, but an error nevertheless.

When I get it wrong, I apologise and move on.

That could work for you also.

Is Dalia Research changing the World?


Dalia Research

178 Followers

Dalia uses mobile technology to feel the pulse of people around the world.

If you are alleging that the data is falsified, at least come out and say so david. That however is the source, as attributed by Dr Roberts.

Want something else to whine about?






China’s New Innovation Advantage


Always a pleasure. Of course trashy figures from the World Bank and Harvard business review must be taken with a grain of salt by our resident experts.

Originally Posted by panama hat

That's sabang's standard retort now - google it, prove wrong etc.. then when you do he switches subjects. Very, very Backspit

Which in turn is very hoohoo.

Originally Posted by sabang

Always a pleasure. Of course trashy figures from the World Bank and Harvard business review must be taken with a grain of salt by our resident experts.

Fair call.

Back in 1990 the GDP per Chinese was $318
China GDP 1960-2022 | MacroTrends


Back in 1990 the GDP per US was $5,963
• U.S. GDP 1990-2019 | Statista


Start from a low base, then all you have to do is steal the World's technology and Bob's your Uncle

Originally Posted by sabang

Want something else to whine about?






China’s New Innovation Advantage


Always a pleasure. Of course trashy figures from the World Bank and Harvard business review must be taken with a grain of salt by our resident experts.

Except the most recent data is from 2019. Pre Covid-19?

^^ Yes, it would be- Covid first hit December 2019. GDP growth 2020 was a 'mere' 2.3%.

But during a year when a crippling pandemic plunged major world economies into recession, China has clearly come out on top. The expansion also beat expectations. The International Monetary Fund, for example, predicted that China's economy would grow 1.9% in 2020. It's the only major world economy the IMF expected to grow at all.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/17/economy/china-gdp-2020-intl-hnk/index.html

Originally Posted by sabang

^^ Yes, it would be- Covid first hit December 2019. GDP growth 2020 was a 'mere' 2.3%.

But during a year when a crippling pandemic plunged major world economies into recession, China has clearly come out on top. The expansion also beat expectations. The International Monetary Fund, for example, predicted that China's economy would grow 1.9% in 2020. It's the only major world economy the IMF expected to grow at all.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/17/economy/china-gdp-2020-intl-hnk/index.html

Yes, made a bundle reselling all the PPE and shit it had quietly bought up while hiding the fact there was going to be a global pandemic from the virus it was covering up.

Mass Testing In Beijing Amid "Grim" Covid Situation Sparks Panic Buying

Beijing: Fears of a hard Covid lockdown sparked panic buying in Beijing as long queues formed on Monday in a large central district for mass testing ordered by the Chinese authorities.
China was already trying to contain a wave of infections in its largest city Shanghai, which has been almost entirely locked down for weeks and reported 51 new Covid deaths on Monday.


Shanghai has struggled to provide fresh food to those confined at home, while patients have reported trouble accessing non-Covid medical care -- and the rising cases in the capital triggered fears of a similar lockdown.


Downtown Beijing's biggest district Chaoyang, home to around 3.5 million people, ordered mass testing from Monday for residents and those coming to work there -- the area hosts the headquarters of many multinational firms and embassies.


Queues snaked around malls and outside office complexes on Monday as people waited to be swabbed for samples by health workers in protective gear.


"If a single case is found, this area could be affected," said office worker Yao Leiming, 25, as he headed for a testing site in Chaoyang with a group of his colleagues.


The mass testing order, and warnings of a "grim" Covid situation in the city, sparked a run on Beijing's supermarkets on Sunday as residents rushed to stockpile essentials.

People were seen pushing shopping carts stacked with food, while many items were sold out on grocery delivery apps when checked by AFP on Sunday -- especially for deliveries to Chaoyang.


Many of the capital's fitness studios and gyms have cancelled classes or closed.


Beijing has also imposed tight controls on entry to the city, with travellers required to have a negative Covid test from within 48 hours.


China has been struggling to defeat its worst outbreak in two years with its zero-Covid playbook, which includes strict lockdowns, mass testing and travel restrictions.

Officials say this policy has helped China avoid the large-scale public health disasters seen elsewhere in the world during the Covid crisis, but the approach has taken a heavy toll on businesses and public morale.

China Covid Cases: Mass Testing In Beijing Amid Grim Covid Situation Sparks Panic Buying

They all secretly hate Mr. Shithole.