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Let me clarify. "Media" to my mind covers all social media including TD.Quote:
Originally Posted by pickel
This is a near stalemate and a slog for the Ukrainians. Both sides are losing men and equipment.
There will be no major break thoughs. The retaking of a village occasionally until the snows start which will make things even tougher for the Ukranians.
This will continue until one side lacks the will and means to continue. Then some sort of agreement to stop the war will occur.
Bold prediction. I will hold you to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
Hope I am wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
We both do, but I will tell you one thing. There is a lot going on at the front lines, much of it may not be deemed headline worthy by media, but the front is very active. An example is that Bakhmut is crumbling, and a possible encirclement is a very real possibility. Lots going on down south as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
An analogy to a chess game would be a closed position. Neither side has made a significant breakthrough and I doubt there is enough time to take advantage of one now before winter.
I still think the major push was intended to come from Kherson and the breaching of the dam scuppered this plan.
I can see both sides being forced round the negotiating table during the winter months.
We will see but I think the stalemate will last through the winter. Stalemate is advantageous to Putin whose strategy is to prolong with the effect of reducing support to the Ukraine war effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...cnni-world.cnn
Fair assessment of the current situation.
I think that Russia will negotiate any day, but whose signature on an eventual deal would they trust and accept ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Ukraine might be forced to the table, not Russia
Not to mention Ukranian forces, which will be worn down. They are getting bled out at the moment with their counteroffensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
It's by the book
As always the wise positionQuote:
Originally Posted by Norton
Another good one here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
(1969) Retired Lt. Gen. says this may be why Ukrainian counteroffensive has slowed - YouTube
Where do they find these folks ?
"The ukranians only have to break through one place, while the russians have to defend a long front"
And your general almost loses his head from nodding.
:) If only it was as easy as that
Not Putin'sQuote:
Originally Posted by helge
I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Who give a shit what the ruzzian scum think or trust. They have been consistent liars long before they illegally invaded Ukraine. Nothing is different now they are the ones who have proven time and again that they can not be trusted.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
You have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
He is a fucking senior retired American General, you clown.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Because he is correct you imbecile, that is how breakthroughs work. It is obvious that you are completely clueless about maneuver warfare and how it works. Stick to polishing pootins little knob dummy, it is what you do best.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Oh, shut up, you clueless imbecile. You do not know better than a highly respected General who lead troops into combat doing exactly these types of operations. I think he is a tad better qualified than some drunk vatnik clown like yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
^ There is no manoeuvre warfare, the whole area is blocked by minefields and there is no air superiority.
You have no idea of the Ukraine casualty fogutes. It is a closely guarded secret. Neither do you know how many active unots there are on the frontlines.
I did not say that there was, you misconstrued my comment. Did you watch the CNN clip regarding what Gen. Hertling said?Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
I do not know what a fogute is. I am going to assume that you meant figures?Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
You are wrong. I know exactly what units are on the front lines. The location of units is well known. Here is a rundown of the force strength of the Ukrainian army...Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1689297585788293120Quote:
The 111 known Ukrainian combat brigades are:
Army: • 34x Mechanized
• 5x Tank • 5x Motorized
• 4x Rifle
• 2x Jaeger
• 2x Mountain
• 2x Assault
• 1x Special Purpose
• 1x Presidential Air Assault Forces
• 4x Air Assault
• 3x Airmobile
• 1x Airborne
• 1x Jaeger Marine Corps
• 4x Marine Air Force
• 1x Rifle Territorial Defense
• 31x Defense National Guard
• 7x Offensive Guard National Police
• 1x Offensive Guard Border Guards
• 1x Offensive Guard General Staff
• 1x Guards As for support brigades and regiments
• 3x Special Forces regiments
• 16x Artillery brigades
• 1x Rocket Artillery regiment
• 2x Engineer brigades
• 5x Engineer regiments
• 3x Pontoon Bridge regiments
• 7x Tactical Aviation brigades
• 4x Army Aviation brigades
• 1x Naval Aviation brigade
• 5x Anti-Aircraft Missile brigades
• 12x Anti-Aircraft Missile regiments And there are at least 143 independent light infantry, reconnaissance, special forces, volunteer, tank, territorial defense, and rifle battalions. These combat and combat support forces number at least 600,000 troops. All the signals, radar, radio-technical, electronic warfare, drone, logistics, maintenance, transport, medical, PSYOPS, naval, rear area security, training, military police, staff, etc. units add at least an additional 500,000 troops to the current strength of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Currently 32 combat brigades are in the rear training and waiting for the call to enter the fight in the next phases of the Ukrainian offensive. And (!) Ukraine keeps forming new brigades.
Ukraine is holding back at this point. The official line is that they are trying to minimize casualties. There is more to the story here.
^^ looking at that list, I think you either misread the comment or simply don't know. I would have expected a list of brigades with % strength and rough position. E.g. where is the 47th and how are they doing? Whete are the 21st and 33rd? What about the 35th, 36th,37th marine brigades. I'm pretty sure they are not all on the frontline, as they need to be rotated. Also ptetty sure some were not created to full strength and some have been lost.
No deal then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
Talk was about negotiation.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
I guess it matters
In my limited understanding of warfare, it must be a dream scenario for the russians, to "open" a corridor for the ukranians to pour south.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
Long narrow supply lines and some nice flanks.
But the ukranians aren't that stupid.
You might be though
And the follow up, where the ..retired general nodded: Which rulebook says that the russians has to defend poorly ukranian manned sections of the front ?
They could start cheating and go on the offensive.
Good for themQuote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
If it's 3:1 in Russia's favour now, then good for the ukranian soldier that they aren't going full trottle.
Would it be "normal" to list such things as one's forces strenght, numbers and rotation ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Couldn't the enemy take advantage of such information ?
I reckon it's foolish enough of the US Commander in ...Chief to publicly state that they are out of ammunition :)
^ Of course not, but snubby knows where they all are and that none have taken heavy losses.
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Yes.
53 settlements in the Kharkov region,are to be evacuated, says Kiev.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Can't be good for the ukranian offensive down south, that they'll have to regroup their troops now.
If it was the Ukrainians who said it, you should probably use the Ukrainian transliterations for the names of those regions. Or, you're just showing your true colors by not saying Kyiv and Kharkiv? Do you call Bakhmut Artemovsk as well, vatnik?Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Is that all today, Pickel ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pickel
It's what I learned at school, and if it can irritate you, I'll stick with that
Never heard about Bakmut before, so..it's Bakmut.Quote:
Originally Posted by pickel
Do you know how to spell Moscow in russian ?
Nah
(neither do I)
Dickhead ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pickel
How's your bet and prediction about Shoigu going ?
Perhaps Putin is afraid of Shoigus private band of mercenaries as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
How's yours about Prigozhin?
Either way, it's bad for Russia. And that's a good thing.
You are completely clueless, and I will not engage you on the topic further. Go read up on "Blitzkrieg", The Battle of France, Erwin Rommel, General Norman Schwarzkopf etc etc. Until you do that STFU.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
There is a secondary force that follows the primary penetrating force that keeps that from happening. You really are stupid beyond beliefQuote:
Originally Posted by helge
On paper, maybe. In this offensive, the casualty rates are 4:1 in Ukraine's favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Except that they are not dipshit. In fact, Ukraine is firing more ammunition per day than it has in months.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
See for yourself...Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
Ukraine Control Map - Google My Maps
That map is not complete and does not show all the brigades that are back in the training grounds, but it is a fairly complete representation of the forces on the front. Keep in mind that the Ukrainian troops are constantly rotated and replenished, and that is not the case with the ruzzians.
^ That's better. I see the 47th is still leading the frontal assault in the South. Time for another brigade to take over?