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Once again, Putin could have ruined their dastardly plan by not invading.
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Once again, Putin could have ruined their dastardly plan by not invading.
Ukraine could have ruined any dastardly plan by honoring the Minsk accords and not massacring their own people.
I am not playing any games with rules defined by some Vatnik useful idiot. The questions require a more robust response and I gave one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123
This is a genocidal war that was started by Putin against a peaceful neighbor. It is not some football match, you lowlife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123
Utter nonsense. You are a useful idiot just like Sabang, you swallow propaganda wholesale and are happy to pop into this thread to celebrate every measly Russian battlefield gain. Thankfully, you have had little to celebrate over the last eight months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman123
Oh look, the lair is lying again. You disgusting cretin, Ukraine never massacred its own people that is nothing but Russian lies, and you full well know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Bullshit- apart from the Odessa and Mariupol massacres, and various lesser known 'incidents', there is also the civil war that started in Donbas soon after the Maidan revolution in 2014, and was kept going because the Ukrainians deliberately dishonored two sets of Minsk accords. Bad move on their part.
Somehow that still hasn't sunk inQuote:
Originally Posted by pickel
If you want to be so monocular and blinkered, that's your problem. The real problem is countless young Ukrainians to their deaths for a futile cause, while causing inestimable damage to the European and world economies. The counter argument "Oh but Russia be hurting too (we hope)" just doesn't cut it.
‘They said we wouldn’t make it alive’ Indigenous draftees from southern Siberia publish video documenting abuses by ‘Donetsk People’s Republic’ militia
A group of soldiers mobilized in Tuva, a region in Russia’s southern Siberia, have published a video documenting abuses by the militia of the self-proclaimed “Donetsk People’s Republic,” where the draftees were deployed after mobilization.
The video, recorded in the indigenous Tyvan language, has been translated into Russian and published by the Asians of Russia Telegram channel.
The footage shows a group of men standing in the woods, wearing masks and camouflage. A voice behind the camera explains that all of them were mobilized on September 29, 2022. For three months, they apparently trained in Novosibirsk but got no instruction in frontline combat skills.
On December 29, the group was moved to Donetsk, and some of them went straight to the frontline. After several men from the unit were wounded, it turned out that they weren’t formally enlisted with any Russian military formation and had no command as such.
On February 4, soldiers from the self-proclaimed “DNR” came to the unit and intimidated the draftees by firing machine guns into the air and telling them they were part of their army now. Military police officers then arrived and beat the servicemen, according to a speaker in the video shared by the Asians of Russia channel, which also shared mobile-phone footage of armed people forcing a man in camouflage to his knees.
The independent outlet Taiga.Info says it received another video that shows draftees being beaten by members of the “DNR” militia. A narrator nicknamed “Batya” (“Daddy”) describes what sounds like the extrajudicial killings of Russian soldiers in 2014–2015, telling the draftees that the general who sent him to their unit “begged him” not kill them, because “they’re all related to Shoigu,” Russia’s ethnically Tyvan defense minister.
Earlier, Rossiyskaya Gazeta tied a soldier with the nickname “Batya” to Lieutenant Colonel Vyacheslav Gubin.
Tuva Governor Vladislav Khovalyg has promised to speak to Russia’s Defense Ministry about the Tyvan draftees’ situation in the Donetsk region. Khovalyg has also asked Vitaly Khotsenko, the prime minister of the self-proclaimed “DNR,” to investigate the militia’s actions. In addition, Khovalyg sent a group of Tyvan officials to the Donetsk region to examine what happened.
“The whole country mobilized fathers, husbands, and sons to defend the Fatherland and meet the goals of the special military operation,” said Khovalyg, adding, “This is a shocking case that discredits the conditions of the draftees.”
VIDEO ‘They said we wouldn’t make it alive’ Indigenous draftees from southern Siberia publish video documenting abuses by ‘Donetsk People’s Republic’ militia — Meduza
You are full of it for sure and trying to push your bullshit propaganda as always. The massacre in Mariupol was commited by Putin.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Putin’s Mariupol Massacre is one of the 21st century’s worst war crimes
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-mariupol-massacre-is-one-the-worst-war-crimes-of-the-21st-century/
The only person who is blinked here is you. You swallow Russian propaganda without question and believe everything the Kremlin says. You are a blinkered useful idiot, pure and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Russia is losing the war you imbecile and those Ukrainians are fitting for democracy, and they will have it. Russia is fighting a futile war, and it shows on the battlefield. They are getting butchered, moral is atrocious and only getting worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Defending their country . . . luckily for Aus and you, you were never in the position to defend yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Nope, the counter-argument is: Putin is a vile war criminal who never should have invaded and murdered hundreds of thousandsQuote:
Originally Posted by sabang
https://media1.giphy.com/media/jsCnm...giphy.gif&ct=gQuote:
Originally Posted by sabang
:rofl::rofl::rofl: sabang, losing it big-time. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Should I listen to Rand corp, or you numbskulls? Now that's a tough one, go figure. :chitown:
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Originally Posted by sabang
All of which was induced by the U.S. [usual practice the world over] including the 2014 coup affair.
The Americans history of supporting and maintaining relationships with right-wing dictatorship is quite rich.
Another blinkered clown who swallows Russian propaganda talking points. The clown car is getting full of these bozos.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuangLao
Yeh sure- Gen Mark Milley, Rand Corp, Henry Kissinger et al, welcome to the clown car! It sure beats a Seattle dungeon.
UK military running out of money and ammo – media
Britain is “under-delivering” on its NATO commitments, a source told Sky News
The UK does not have enough money to fulfill its military commitments after digging deep into its stockpiles to fund and equip the Ukrainian war effort, unnamed defense sources told Sky News on Monday.
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Britain’s self-defense is in jeopardy because the government is giving away critical military assets to Kiev, including tanks and artillery, sources warned, explaining that “it is no good having a small number of high-end, exquisite platforms when you have not got capacity around it.”
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak recently promised Ukraine 14 Challenger 2 main battle tanks and 30 AS90 artillery guns – the remainder of the British army’s artillery stocks – leaving the home front vulnerable, according to the sources.
While Sunak inherited a “refresh” of defense policy formulated in 2021, prioritizing investment in high-tech submarines and the development of a new fighter jet, the sources who spoke to Sky argued this plan ignores the military’s immediate needs — a lack of ammunition, artillery, and missile defense systems.
The sources said they had already urged the Treasury to add £3 billion annually to the defense budget and ease restrictions on arms procurement, but Chancellor Jeremy Hunt was playing “hard ball.”
“[The Treasury] recognize[s] the threats. They recognize the pressure defense is under from inflation, the nuclear deterrent, stockpiles, and Ukraine. But despite recognizing the threats and the pressure, they say there is no more money,” one source told Sky.
Making matters worse, the government is actually cutting the size of the military from 82,000 to 73,000 troops. London will thus only be “credibly” able to supply a brigade, numbering between 5,000 and 10,000 soldiers plus supporting equipment, to a new NATO force that would normally expect three to six times that number from a major bloc power such as the UK.
Retired General Richard Barrons warned earlier this month in an op-ed that the country’s army had been so “hollowed out by spending cuts” that it could run out of ammunition “in a busy afternoon” and was by no means prepared to withstand a “surprise attack.”
Sky’s insiders at the Ministry of Defence confirmed the military would “already run out of ammunition within a few days if called upon to fight” and warned that putting together a “modern warfighting division of some 25,000 to 30,000 troops” would take “up to ten years.”
UK military running out of money and ammo – media — RT World News
:UK: Good time to invade Vlad?
I do not know why you are trying to put these people on your side of the argument because they most assuredly would despise a cretin like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
The words of Gen Mark Millley...
He is not on your side, dipshit. Furthermore, he is pretty clearly stating that Russia has failed in every way and is getting its teeth kicked in.Quote:
Gen. Mark Milley said the Russian military was “really hurting bad” after nearly nine months of war in which the Kremlin has failed to achieve any of its goals. The Ukrainians have racked up “success after success after success,” Milley quipped, while the Russians “have failed every single time.”
Those failures, Milley suggested, which come on top of Ukraine’s recent liberation of Kherson, may even allow Ukraine to push for what it is unlikely to achieve militarily: a withdrawal of Russian forces.
“There may be a political solution where politically the Russians withdraw,” Milley said at a press conference Wednesday. “You want to negotiate at a time when you’re at your strength, and your opponent is at weakness.
You really are a laughable clown.
This is the gist of the matter:-
Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff Mark Milley urged Kyiv and Moscow to find a "political solution" as the winter months loom, warning that the chances of a total military victory was "unlikely."
This is fluff, filler for the great unwashed, to make it more palatable:-
"You want to negotiate from a position of strength. Russia right now is on its back," Milley told reporters following the 7th session of the Ukraine Contact Group. "The probability of Russia achieving its strategic objectives of conquering Ukraine…is close to zero."
I am indeed on the side of the USA's most senior serving military officer, and he is a most distinguished member of the clown car club- I am humbled to have him aboard. Even since he uttered those words, things have only gotten worse for Ukraine. The adults are well aware of this, so I do not need to labor the point. I doubt Gen Milley would have much time for armchair generals like you, who can't even tell which way the wind is blowing.
I hope, pretty soon, it turns into a humanitarian cause- stop this futile waste of life, and resources.
As usual, you take his words out of context because that is what useful idiots do.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
You may want to reread your quote above, dippy.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
You just conceded that Russia has zero chance of conquering Ukraine.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
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Fighting to resist being enslaved under the yoke of a tyrannical dictator that is committing genocide on their country is never "futile" you disgusting cretin. Soon you will lose your tongue.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
I think some cold, hard reality might finally be permeating snubski's bonehead. Diddums. :)
Some cold hard reality like...Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Kyiv defeat
Kharkiv defeat
Chernihiv defeat
Kherson defeat
270,000 Russian dead and wounded
The total destruction of Russia's best tank armies and Marines. Ya, some cold, hard reality.
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Scott Ritter: I’m Not a Traitor… Lying Politicians and US Government are the Real Traitors
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Former Marine Corps intelligence officer Scott Ritter answers his critics who accuse him of being a “Russian stooge” and an “anti-American traitor” owing to his trenchant criticism of US involvement in the Ukraine war with Russia.
Ritter says, “they can go to hell!” He adds, “my job is to tell the truth based on fact-based analysis”.
“I do not serve the US government, I serve the people and the Constitution,” says Ritter.
Ritter explains what guides his military and geopolitical views – “fact-based analysis”. He says this truth-telling has always got him in trouble with the Pentagon, the CIA and the US government. He recounts how in his past career he had major scrapes with military and political superiors while working as a US weapons inspector based in the Soviet Union and later as an intelligence officer during the First Gulf War in Iraq in the early 1990s.During the Second Gulf War that began in 2003, Ritter helped expose the false Anglo-American propaganda claims of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that were used to (illegally) launch that war. Those claims were later shown to be a total fabrication even though that war destroyed a nation, killed and displaced millions, and spawned global terrorism. Ritter was vindicated.
“My job is not to please my bosses… My job is to tell the truth… I don’t work for the US Government.”He adds: “I am not the one with an integrity problem.
”Scott Ritter has gained international respect for his independent analysis of the war in Ukraine and the deceptive involvement of the US and NATO.He says people who accuse him of being a traitor have got things upside down. “The US Government lies all the time. It views the Constitution as an impediment to get around.
”I took an oath to defend against foreign and domestic enemies… the traitors are lying politicians, says Ritter, in a searing condemnation of Washington and its unscrupulous subversion of US and international law to pursue its wars and imperialist interests.
Scott Ritter: I’m Not a Traitor… Lying Politicians and US Government are the Real Traitors - TheAltWorld
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You are off pissed - it is a special military obfuscationQuote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Ukraine ad Russia broken, devastation, deaths, loss of homes, livelihoods and businesses, environmental disaster, displaced persons, abductions, orphans , exiles.
UK and EU indebted , need to pay for a replace lost equipment and reconstruction, zero hope of regaining lost Russian assets and markets for a long while, monies loan to Ukraine right offs.
Winners USA sees threat from Russian muted , economic competition from a weakened /divided EU, Nordstream policy vindicated
China gains leverage as both Russian and Eu weakened with cheap fuel
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Originally Posted by sabang
Another one in sabangs clown car.
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Chieftain and AS90 are museum pieces left over from the Cold War. The deployment of heavy armour was proved sufficiently troublesome in Gulf War 1 over 30 years ago. RT is behind the curve with this one. UK defence today is based on high tech and arms length platforms provided by the navy and the Air Force.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Cavalry heavy armour will be replaced by more rapid advanced deployment of helicopter gunships.
What next from RT? Do they expect combat uniforms to go back to the redtunics that made such good targets a few hundred years ago?
Do try to keep up Sabang! :rofl:
The UK military is in a pitiful state- just ask them.
And Scott Ritter has never been tried, never mind convicted, of paedophilia.