Excellent discussion, especially the second half.
From 14:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03J6U5yxWc&t=249s
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Excellent discussion, especially the second half.
From 14:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03J6U5yxWc&t=249s
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Originally Posted by bsnub
When will these..brigades join then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
With my limited sources, it seems that they lose tanks and..Bradleys in an astonishing tempo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
It's a slaughter
How about this :
1164 people from Russia and Belarus living in Lithuania have been declared a threat to national security.
They have now had both their residence permits revoked, writes the Norwegian media NRK.
The decision by the authorities in Lithuania comes after questionnaires were sent out to Russians and Belarusians.
They were asked to answer questions about their views on Russia's invasion of Ukraine and on the status of the Russian-annexed Crimean peninsula.
910 are Belarusians, while 254 are Russians.
More than 58,000 Belarusian citizens and around 16,000 Russian citizens live in Lithuania.
My comment: Worrying !
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Originally Posted by helge
Mass slaughter of Ukrainian civilians by invading Russian military.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
My comment: Worrying.
Perspective, I guess.
Similar to champagne socialists in the west bleating on about wonderful socialism was . . . life in socialist countries included restricted travel, no public opinion criticising the regime, educational indoctrination etc...
Perspective, I guess.
Is that what you usually call 'whatabou...'Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
Ofcourse. If it's beneath you to comment, then don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
Which "socialist countries" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
WAPA countries ?
What exactly was 'socialist' about them ?
Opened a book lately ?
Das Kapital is german, you know
And if you'd like, we could compare with countries with a capitalistic system back then.
Should we start with South America or Central America or South Africa or South East Asia or the Middle East and so on.
All with capitalistic systems and an ass covered by the west.
But you aren't really interested in that, are you ?
Again...
Kerch Bridge On Fire Song - YouTube
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It IS a good song.
Something that is only posted in a time when there is something to celebrate. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Not at all. You stated our cade about how terrible it is that some people are losing their residence status and I mentioned hoe terrible it is for hundreds of thousands to be murdered by an invading army. I never said one was better/worse than the other. Perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
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Originally Posted by helge
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, German Democratic Republic, Czech Socialist Republic. I've been there during their socialist times and saw first hand how the system works - have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Written by a German . . . and?Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
I thought you didn't like 'whataboutism'? Also, the three issues mentioned were not part and parcel of Western Europe, Canada, USA, Australia etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
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Originally Posted by helge
I'm not quite sure why you have an issue with condemning the murder of hundreds of thousands by an invading military . . . from memory both you and I condemned the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan by the US.
So . . . murdering civilians good? :sad:
There are reports that Latvia is asking ~6000 Russians to leave in September. Initially I thought they were removing confirmed war supporters but it seems to be more widespread.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Multiple attacks on the Kerch Bridge tonight...
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...03968837312512Quote:
Seismic measuring stations in Romania and Bulgaria have picked up 3 distinct explosions along the Crimean Bridge
As well as a ruzzian oil tanker that was hit in the Black Sea...
https://twitter.com/trajaykay/status...93605030969344Quote:
Allegedly The first recording of the negotiations from aboard the downed SIG tanker. radio from the Sig tanker claimed to have been hit by Ukraine tonight, near the Kerch bridge (Crimean Bridge) "We ourselves cannot move without a tugboat".
The writer is senior research fellow for land warfare at the Royal United Services Institute think-tank and has worked extensively in Ukraine during Russia’s full-scale invasion.
For two months, Ukrainian forces have been on the offensive, trying to break through Russian defence lines to begin the liberation of the occupied territories. The fighting has been difficult and progress has been incremental. But over time, the Ukrainians have been securing the advantage. The question now is whether they can push Russian forces to breaking point.
After wasting thousands of troops in a failed spring offensive, the Russian military fell back to around 45km of defensive positions, stretching across the southern front from Zaporizhzhia through Donetsk, to prevent Ukrainian troops advancing towards the strategic, Russian-held city of Melitopol. The so-called Surovikin Line, named after a Russian general, comprises three lines of hardened trenches, each screened by dense minefields, anti-tank ditches, tank traps and wire entanglements. In front of these, Russian fighting positions are bolstered by anti-tank and anti-personnel mines.
Since the start of the offensive in early June, Moscow has adopted new tactics. Russian forces allow Ukrainians to enter the minefields and then aggressively counterattack, often with tanks and anti-tank guided weapons on the flanks. Once Ukrainian vehicles are knocked out, the Russians deploy mortars and artillery against the infantry. If Kyiv’s forces get across the minefields and into the trenches, the Russians often abandon their fighting positions and detonate prepositioned charges to kill the first wave of attackers.
After attempts to breach the minefields using explosives led to heavy Ukrainian casualties, Kyiv has adapted its tactics, infiltrating Russian positions to confuse the defenders and strike from the flanks, before attempting breaches. These methods have reduced Ukrainian losses, but the necessary planning and reconnaissance makes this a slow process, in which the Ukrainians fight for 700m at a time. This gives their opponents the chance to reset. But accelerating the process leads to an unacceptable rate of equipment loss. For the Ukrainians, the key is to manage their equipment, such as vehicles, to exploit a breach once it has been made.
As well as assaulting Russian positions, since early June Kyiv has also used precision missiles provided by its partners to destroy counter-battery radar. Without them, Moscow has found itself outranged and unable to locate Ukrainian artillery. Kyiv’s forces, by contrast, have become adept at locating Russian guns and destroying them with precision shells.
This systematic erosion of Russian artillery has been a turning point: for the first time in the war, Ukrainian howitzers can deliver sustained fire on to Russian positions. It also means that Moscow — while still destroying Ukrainian vehicles in the minefields — has less artillery power to kill the infantry that emerge from them. As a result, Ukrainian troops are succeeding in taking Russian positions, even when their vehicles are caught in the open.
In response, Moscow has had to be more aggressive with its own armoured vehicles. This has inflicted heavy casualties on Ukrainians, but deploying such vehicles close to the front has left them vulnerable. During the day, dozens of Ukrainian drones surveil the battlespace, filming and identifying targets. At night, these units send repurposed agricultural drones carrying rocket-propelled grenades to hunt for Russian armour.
The attrition of critical equipment is important for Kyiv both tactically and operationally. Ukraine has been using Storm Shadow cruise missiles supplied by the UK to hit command posts, ammunition depots and bridges behind Russian lines. Together, the destruction of artillery, armour, radars and the loss of supplies are leaving Moscow’s infantry with diminishing support. However, Russian units continue to fight hard and Ukraine’s own equipment losses remain high. Kyiv’s forces are struggling with persistent Russian attack helicopters, which sit 8km to 10km from the front at low altitude, safe from air defences, and fire anti-tank missiles at Ukrainian vehicles.
The question is which side can sustain the current rate of attrition. On the southern front, Russia’s 58th Combined Arms Army has borne the brunt of the fighting. About a quarter of the force is in the fighting positions at any one time and the Russians have had to rotate troops. They have few reserves. Ukraine, meanwhile, has fed additional units from the 10th Corps into the fight, keeping up the pressure. At some point, Russia’s infantry might be spread too thin and, with insufficient artillery and armoured support the defence could crumble. Dry weather will allow Ukraine to continue its push until the beginning of November. This will be a critical point: from then on, progress will depend on which side has made better preparations for winter fighting.
The stakes are high for Kyiv. If it breaks through it could liberate significant amounts of territory and force Russia to surge new units into Ukraine before they have finished training. Conversely, if Ukraine fails to breach the Surovikin Line then Russia can keep new units back, train and prepare them, and regain the initiative. Either way, Kyiv will need ongoing international assistance. But by autumn, the trajectory of the conflict will be clear.
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The tanker took some serious damage...
https://twitter.com/FouthTimeLucky/s...43989501964289
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REMOTE SEA CONTROL: UKR sources confirm that a Russian amphibious ship, the Olenegorsky Gornyak, was severely damaged by a naval drone during a Ukrainian attack on the RU port of Novorossiysk.
https://bbc.com/news/world-eur
More info on the SIG tanker that was hit.
Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia lost two Ships in the Black sea | Ukrainian Drones are Awesome! - YouTube
https://twitter.com/randymot4/status...55368191954945Quote:
Russian artillery losses continue to be staggering. This reduces the ability of the Russians to stop a breakthrough or react to one. Ukr is winning the attrition war and setting up for the real punch.
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/st...69713223323650Quote:
If you wondered for what reason russian Ka-52 attack helicopters were suddenly falling out of the sky outside the range of MANPADS... here is your answer:
The prognosis looks good for Ukraine
On twitter/X
And in reality ?
Depends on what media one subscribes to.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
Even if a person went to the front lines they would only know what is happening in a very small area on huge lines of Russian occupied territory.
Oryx is still registering confirmed losses on both sides. Not sure if there is a bias in the data or how long the time lag. It does show a lot of Bradley (47) losses and 14 leopard tanks, not including the sweepers. Also several counter battery radars and artillery.
I don't check it on a daily basis so couldn't say when and where losses occurred.
Progress os slow, much slower than snubby was expecting.
Well, there are an awful lot of mines that are slowing things down, but Ukraine is still moving forward. The first line has been breached, and they are working on the second line. Things are happening in Kherson oblast, with some bridgeheads being established. That is where I am focusing my attention at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy
The media doesn't have time to show everything that is available from open sources. When they're not covering Trump, they only tend to show the sensational footage, such as bridge and boat attacks. This is by far the most filmed conflict in history. Both sides have drones in the sky filming most of the action. That is how Oryx can compile a relatively accurate account of losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton
When the counteroffensive began and a few Leopards and Bradley's got blown up, it sent everyone into a tizzy, yet most didn't see the footage of dozens and dozens of Russian tanks being elminated during that same week. Also, the occupants of Bradley's and Leopards are way more likely to survive hits, than the ones in Russian vehicles.
The media is the last place I look when I want to know what is going on in Ukraine. It is behind open sources that are out there and often times they get their information from the same sources I do, but they still have to publish it and add their spin which ultimately makes it available to the public days after the fact. Open source intel is the most powerful tool we have ever had in human history for being able to discern what is going on in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by pickel
Spot on and well said. The western equipment was going to take loses as it is not indestructible, so what we saw was no surprise to most. As you said, in most cases the crews survived to fight another day. Vehicles are replaceable, but trained crews are not, as the ruzzians have and continue to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by pickel
In the end, the US sent and is sending more replacement Bradley's and those crew will not need to be retrained. They will be able to get in and go. That is the way the western equipment was designed to work.
The Naval Fleet of Drones
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