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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    ^ When the US had actually WON a war as opposed to taking credit for the CHinks and Rooskies work, you can keep talking lad.



    If you walk down a street with a group of blokes, kick down a door, kidnap a father in front of his kids, take him away for torture, and brutalise the rest of the family, does that "being your job" make that acceptable? Id you are sat in a Apache, pick out a group of men 2 miles away, ask permission to kill them, granted, and you then do, does that "being your job" excuse you? MAke it morally acceptable.?

    All this "nice young folks, apple pie and ribbons in their hair, saluting the flag" nonsense IS the propaganda, IS the false narrative. The might well be nice young kids, but at the point where their chosen career option starts or enables the murder, theft, torture, rape, destruction , of other people and countries, your right to call them "nice young kids" ends. They are no. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold might have been nice young kids to some people, but their actions, their choices were repugnant. Dropping a bomb on a school from 2,000 miles away is significantly worse than the Columbine shooting. You condemn on, and excuse the other.
    You did not understand a word I said.
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    ^ FO Ant
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    38,671 rants and counting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    understand a word I said.
    I understood everything you wrote. I couldn't hear what you said. Try recording and posting an Mp4?



    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    ever serve in combat?
    No - I have a sense of mortality and would never trade my morals for a quid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
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    That looks like trumpanzee hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Pre invasion the large majority would probably have voted Ukraine in a referendum.
    The very large majority are Russians. And always have been...

    BTW, from which source do you take your "assumptions"? Ever heard from somebody who was there?

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    F*** the Troops-group-bloodhounds-sniffing-ground-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    The annexation of Crimea to protect ethnic Russians?
    Not so "sanft" handled as the "annexation" of (please no names here...), wasn't it?

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    Fuck off Klondyke go back to your troll factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    The annexation of Crimea to protect ethnic Russians?
    There were just a few...

    According to the 2014 Russian census, 84% of Crimean inhabitants named Russian as their native language; 7.9% – Crimean Tatar; 3.7% – Tatar; and 3.3% – Ukrainian.[citation needed] It was the first official census in Crimea since a Ukrainian-held census in 2001.[129]

    According to the 2001 census, 77% of Crimean inhabitants named Russian as their native language; 11.4% – Crimean Tatar; and 10.1% – Ukrainian.
    Crimea - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    BTW, from which source do you take your "assumptions"? Ever heard from somebody who was there?
    The mere fact that they invaded and forced the non russians out. There was not the slightest indication of a threat for the ethnic russians before that. Russia could have pressed for a referendum under international supervision. They did not go that way because they knew they would lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    I understood everything you wrote. I couldn't hear what you said. Try recording and posting an Mp4?
    You know what they say "you can take a horse to water but you cant make him drink"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    The mere fact that they invaded and forced the non russians out.
    When did Russia "invade" Ukraine, 13th, 18th, 20th century. When did Russia force Ukrainians out of Ukraine, where did they go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    There was not the slightest indication of a threat for the ethnic russians before that


    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Russia could have pressed for a referendum
    Why would Russia want Ukraine? It had a valid agreement for the part it wanted to keep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    You know what they say "you can take a horse to water but you cant make him drink"
    You can take a person to war but you can't make them murder someone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Name me just one time in the last 10 yrs where military action has been "needed" and I will prove that the situation was created by the same psychopaths who then sent the hired murderers to go and kill for them.
    Peacekeeping in African shitholes.
    Peacekeeping in ME shitholes.
    Humanitarian aid during famines.
    Disaster relief after storms & seismic events.

    Fairly mundane and not headline grabbing events. That's what armed forces around the world do most. What you're complaining about is the big boy bullies of Russia, China, and the US and you're blaming the pawns for the actions of the royalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    Peacekeeping in African shitholes.
    Peacekeeping in ME shitholes.
    Humanitarian aid during famines.
    Disaster relief after storms & seismic events.
    Aside from the last, ALL caused by the west. ALL. You don't need a gang of hired murderers for humanitarian missions as well!

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    Plenty that are cause by local psychopaths in power. The reason every country has a military is because psychopaths aren't exclusively western.



    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    You don't need a gang of hired murderers for humanitarian missions as well!
    You obviously don't know how a modern military works. Do you have some romantic picture in your head where everyone lines up on a battlefield and the best team wins? Most soldiers/sailors/airmen don't even carry weapons. They move stuff around the world, fix broken infrastructure, and supply means of communication and control when there is none locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
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    Plenty that are cause by local psychopaths in power. The reason every country has a military is because psychopaths aren't exclusively western.

    Why do you need a battlefield?


    You obviously don't know how a modern military works. Do you have some romantic picture in your head where everyone lines up on a battlefield and the best team wins? Most soldiers/sailors/airmen don't even carry weapons. They move stuff around the world, fix broken infrastructure, and supply means of communication and control when there is none locally.
    FFS No millitary is needed. It's just a tool used by THe State to enrich themselves and their buddies. The people who decide to be their paid for murderers are morally bankrupt idiots so fuck them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    FFS No millitary is needed. It's just a tool used by THe State to enrich themselves and their buddies.
    I've been reading your rants on here, making some good points but also going way out there and painting with the broadest brush.

    When you say that no military is needed . . . country A has one. Country B doesn't. Country A wants valuable B land. Country A marches in and takes it. Country B ceases to exist and is a slave to country A.

    So yes. Unfortunately this isn't nirvana.

    As for enrichment, sure for a time. After that the state goes bankrupt because military expenditure creates very little and is a social program as such. Why do you think most world powers eventually died off?




    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    The people who decide to be their paid for murderers are morally bankrupt idiots so fuck them.
    A - conscription.
    B - a job, whether you like it or not. Especially in the US it is a way for financially disadvantaged people to get a job and an education . . . and the vast majority don't see any military action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Why would Russia want Ukraine? It had a valid agreement for the part it wanted to keep.
    They obviously broke that agreement by invading Ukraine, the Krim they ceded in that agreement. They drove non Russians out of Krim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    You can take a person to war but you can't make them murder someone?
    Sure you can, There's a whole industry dedicate to doing exactly that.
    I am surprised you didn't know that. Well not really surprised.

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    I think a grand idea would be to split our defence forces into two separate services- Defence force and Offence force.

    Thus, quiet patriots and young people who just wanna earn a buck and get a trade can join the Defence forces, safe in the knowledge they are never going to be required to kill often unarmed people in far away places, quite possibly in some extremely lurid ways.

    Mercenaries, Gung-ho's, psychopaths, right wing Xtians, homicidal maniacs & ilk could join the Offence force, secure in the hope they might well (god willing) be sent to kill 'people' - well gooks, chinks, ragheads etc- in foreign places at somebody elses behest.

    I reckon that simple step would help make for a better world.
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    They obviously broke that agreement by invading Ukraine




    Oh look. A bullshit artist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Oh look. A bullshit artist.
    Except he's quite correct



    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Mercenaries, Gung-ho's, psychopaths, right wing Xtians, homicidal maniacs & ilk could join the Offence force, secure in the hope they might well (god willing) be sent to kill 'people' - well gooks, chinks, ragheads etc- in foreign places at somebody elses behest.
    You mean like an expedited one-way ticket to a better world? Cool.

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    Except he's quite correct
    Oh look mum. Another one.



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