Thread: US carries out ‘precision defensive strikes’ in Iraq and Syria against Iranian-backed

It's always interesting to get know who were the people killed by a bomb, missile or anything. Often they are the terrorists intending to make a terror. And sometimes even hidden behind a wedding crowd.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Why are these idiots crying ? Especially grown men !

If you make those videos/pictures black and white and label them "Der Führer", you woud'nt know the difference between now and then.

I do not see any people crying, just millions mourning the death of one of their good people caring for their well being.

That's in contrast of our feelings and expressions in our old world, where we rarely have and mourn somebody like that.

BTW, why you immediately think on Den Führer?

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Do you also quote him when he is critical of Russia "thy Lord" ?

Thank you for reading the article. Any comments to make regarding the article?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Very much worth a read

Thank you for reading the article, along with your comments.

Excellent article OO, will green when I can. It glaringly also points out the utter paucity of decent analysis, and the utter and profound corruption of our so called MSM. Which means, in turn, our society is utterly corrupted. Can't emphasize this enough, even though few want to listen- We (or at least those that purport to represent us) are the Baddies now, not the only Baddies of course, but bad guys nonetheless. We have abandoned any semblance of the moral code and checks and balances that once set us apart as a system and society. Sad.

The main enemy by far that Soleiman had killed were Isis. The main groups killing us are Sunni, underpinned and often financed by the vile Saudi Wahabi sect (and, paradoxically, ourselves too). So who is our enemy? Why Soleiman of course, who along with Putin makes us look cheap, ineffectual and utterly hypocritical in the War on Terror we so spuriously and dishonestly declared. We don't really fight terrorists or terrorism at all- rather, we use them as useful idiots while committing terrorist atrocities ourselves. If that makes you feel good, or justified as a westerner, well so be it.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1213804505537679362

well, we have become a mirror image of our enemies, but that's quite classic in a long war like we had in the last 20 years

it creates a fusion between good and evil,

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ actually Herman, it's a very good article within which all the facts can be checked easily.

Very much worth a read. Everything in it is known, but well worth a reminder of how corrupt and murderous the likes of Blair and his cronies are and were, as well as how ineffective at their job the media are. I personally did an article on Blair's going to war with Iraq speech and the lies within it (a critical discourse piece), so I know Blair's going to war speech well, have the original from the day, etc. Interestingly, when the UK did an inquiry, the words of that speech were changed, and the speech itself is not available through the Houses of Parliament records (as is the normal practice) - but, has any media outlet in the UK pointed out that the inquiry was based on an imaginary speech rather than the one Blair actually gave? Obviously not... Our media are dire. The people that believe our media are stupid.

Blair was "chosen" by the secretive Bilderberg Group as Labour leader after John Smith died suddenly. His agenda coincided with Bush's in the US. Most of the mainstream media is also controlled by Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Committee of 300, Royal Institute for International Affairs members. Basically, the establishment / secret cabal of bankers, military, and industrialists writing their own news and our history..

The US will have no choice but to pull out from the whole zone,

Mission Accomplished,

The Turkish and Russian empire can finally expand,

I'm sure that the American military action was fully just, and was vital in the protection of the American people's liberty and freedom.

donald pumped the iranian to shut him up about deals trump org had been doing til the end of 2016 with republican guard front companies

New Yorker writer Adam Davidson tweeted Sunday that when Iran leaders set up front companies to try and acquire weapons of mass destruction that the Trump Organization met with one of those front groups.

“One of Soleiman’s chief goals was to acquire WMD missile systems that could threaten Israel and US installations,” Davidson wrote on Twitter Sunday. “He assigned the job to his ally, Mohamed Bagher Ghalibaf. When sanctions began, the IRGC used front companies to handle WMD acquisition.”

He explained that the Darvishi brothers, who served as chief deputies to Ghalibaf, set up one of the largest and most successful fake companies named Azarpassillo. The main partner was Azerbaijan’s Minister of Transport, Ziya Mammadov, who sent his son to the United States to meet with the Trump Organization and other businesses.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/ivanka-and-trump-organization-linked-to-suleimanis-front-company-new-yorker-writer/

Originally Posted by sabang

Excellent article OO, will green when I can. It glaringly also points out the utter paucity of decent analysis, and the utter and profound corruption of our so called MSM. Which means, in turn, our society is utterly corrupted. Can't emphasize this enough, even though few want to listen- We (or at least those that purport to represent us) are the Baddies now, not the only Baddies of course, but bad guys nonetheless. We have abandoned any semblance of the moral code and checks and balances that once set us apart as a system and society. Sad.

The main enemy by far that Soleiman had killed were Isis. The main groups killing us are Sunni, underpinned and often financed by the vile Saudi Wahabi sect (and, paradoxically, ourselves too). So who is our enemy? Why Soleiman of course, who along with Putin makes us look cheap, ineffectual and utterly hypocritical in the War on Terror we so spuriously and dishonestly declared. We don't really fight terrorists or terrorism at all- rather, we use them as useful idiots while committing terrorist atrocities ourselves. If that makes you feel good, or justified as a westerner, well so be it.

Of course poorly educated folk like yourself aren't aware that the reason IS/ISIS/ISIL exists in the first place is in response to Shi'a violence against Sunni after Saddam was taken out.

Originally Posted by kmart

Blair was "chosen" by the secretive Bilderberg Group as Labour leader after John Smith died suddenly. His agenda coincided with Bush's in the US. Most of the mainstream media is also controlled by Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Committee of 300, Royal Institute for International Affairs members. Basically, the establishment / secret cabal of bankers, military, and industrialists writing their own news and our history..

Someone's been listening to Alex Jones again.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ actually Herman, it's a very good article within which all the facts can be checked easily.

Very much worth a read. Everything in it is known, but well worth a reminder ......

actually Bettyboo, you are absolutely right. Everything in it is known and has been discussed here on TD.
But then please tell me why this article is worth reading? Because its written by former Ambassador? And not someone from TD ?
This guy made a big chabang trying to explain to us the word "imminent". What the fu.k, makes me feel like I'am back in school.
Then he makes a big chabang about some "Bethlehem Doctrine" while he forgets that almost all countries don't even respect the U.N. charta.
So now what excactly is this crack pot trying to tell us?


P.S. years ago I started a thread about a religious bitch called Erdogan. Yesterday he send troops to Libya.

Originally Posted by raycarey

this action by the US was way over the top, and you can bet that the iranians are going to view this as an act of war and respond with a further escalation.

"with a further escalation" are your words. Stating they had previously escalated. If you had posted, "with an escalation" I would have assumed that you meant as the result of another parties actions. You didn't.

Originally Posted by raycarey

the highlighted bit is apparently what ohoh has his knickers in a twist about....

Guessing? Why not ask?

Originally Posted by raycarey

rudimentary reading comprehension skills would be able to

More derogatory remarks from you.

Originally Posted by raycarey

i did not directly post or even imply what oh-oh claims i did.

I have illustrated and referenced where and what you actually posted.

Any other fake allegations?

you fucking moron...

Originally Posted by raycarey

both the bush and obama administrations knew it would be a reckless escalation to try and kill soleimani. so knowledgeable people with cooler heads acted diplomatically....and when necessary with force via proxies. if you have evidence that indicates the contrary, post it.

if another country killed the US secretary of defense with a drone fired missile, the US would swiftly declare war...and i'm not just referring to the president acting unilaterally....i'm saying that congress would authorize it in a bipartisan vote....and the US public by and large would support it.

this action by the US was way over the top, and you can bet that the iranians are going to view this as an act of war and respond with a further escalation.

Originally Posted by OhOh

More derogatory remarks from you.

In your case derogatory remarks are justified as you are a tedious moron.

Herman, conventional discourse is very important and changes to it (abuses to it) need to be challenged rigorously. So, for example, when war mongering politicians use terms such as "collateral damage" it's important we highlight that the words mean: killing of innocent people - that is completely unacceptable. It's important to highlight that fact and keep highlighting it otherwise weak-minded folk will start to believe it's a normal use of words and collateral damage is ok; that it's ok to kill innocent people if you're a government and call it collateral damage...

Another example is when Blair stated that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction time after time (fear-mongering) even though he knew it was not true and it was proven to be untrue. It's important we highlight that fact, so that Blair doesn't keep power thus causing war after war with lie after lie.

In the example above, the term imminent has a very clear meaning: about to happen; known to be about to happen. But, because all of the British government's lawyers knew and stated that Blair's attack on Iraq was illegal, Blair's government brought in an outsider to make up new terms, ignore the law and lay the foundation to war with a pretence of 'legal status'. This individual, not part of the UK government team but an advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister, ignored all internationally accepted legal terms and changed the meaning of the word imminent to mean: was done before or might be done by somebody, unknown, at any time in the future. BTW, that's you and me and everyone else, at any time for any reason... It's very important.

^

Why the obsession with Blair? If Thatcher was in power she would have mostly likely just fucking nuked Iraq. Seems odd that you make such an effort to villainize someone who was basically just a yes man to the US government. Like any other British leader would have been different.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Fucking hell Ray, the Shi'a are *always* out on the street screaming "Death to America" FFS.

No-one cares, I can remember Jay Leno taking the piss out of one of them because he was wearing a Chicago Bulls shirt, it's that old

Originally Posted by raycarey

it's 5 am EST and trump has been awake for some time..... cable news is showing the massive crowds on the streets of baghad screaming 'death to america'.

if you don't think this is going to have an impact on trump's increasingly impulsive behavior then you haven't been paying attention.

do yourself a favor and stick to copy & pasting editorial cartoons, you half-wit.

your response has absolutely nothing to do with what i posted.

my post was about trump's inevitable ego based response. a man who in some sense still exists in the 70s 80s and 90s...for example, when it was significant to be on the cover of time magazine...when he sees the massive crowds on the streets screaming 'death to america' it's going to bring him back jimmy carter and being worried that it makes him look weak....and that's going to impact his increasingly impulsive behavior.

FFS, just a few months ago he was trying to show his strength by stating 'you don't see them shouting death to america anymore'.

which is why i posted what i posted, half-wit harry.