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    Quote Originally Posted by fubaah View Post
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    Is there a point in that oh so clever non post?

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    Hear a lot about trading with the commonwealth- now this may all be good and proper with wealthier nations, but most are pretty impoverished. So much so, they drag the GDP down to a lowly 3500Euro. Such households won't be buying masses of expensive imported goods. The EU on the other hand...

    For me money matters more than sovereignty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Hear a lot about trading with the commonwealth- now this may all be good and proper with wealthier nations, but most are pretty impoverished. So much so, they drag the GDP down to a lowly 3500Euro. Such households won't be buying masses of expensive imported goods. The EU on the other hand...

    For me money matters more than sovereignty
    That's fair to a point, and as I said before if the EU followed its original package as it was marketed, that of a economic trading block, it could have gone to wonderful heights rather than to its leaders' heads.

    imho it started going wrong with a chase for quantity over quality, political union resulting in loss of sovereignty and independence, unaccountable power in few unelected hands, and of course corruption, waste and an authoritarian policy process which Troy kindly pointed out also exist in Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    of more sovereignty
    quite

    you cannot see the world is moving towards less of these ancient things you call borders which are only there for protectionism and funding an elite

    universal rules for safety and human rights will only come when the rules are made by one parliment

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Is there a point in that oh so clever non post?
    You said:

    Originally Posted by jabir I don't think anyone is saying the EU will descend into chaos because the UK left with no deal
    I then quoted the post that you missed where Switch is saying the EU will descend into chaos if there is no deal

    Originally Posted by Switch
    An extension is desirable for both sides, but not compulsory. Without one, both sides descend into chaos.

    They might seem United now, but the last thing the real members need is a no deal Brexit,

    Let me know if you need any further help using the internet or basic reading comprehension and I will drop everything and come running...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubaah View Post
    You said:

    I then quoted the post that you missed where Switch is saying the EU will descend into chaos if there is no deal

    Let me know if you need any further help using the internet or basic reading comprehension and I will drop everything and come running...
    For sure I need help, in fact with many of your posts.

    Fex, with no comment on the content of my post you cherry pick a few words of one sentence, and arrive at the quaint notion that I need help in comprehension because I 'missed' something that somebody else posted. Are you suggesting I should agree with everything or nothing? Just how sick are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    quite

    you cannot see the world is moving towards less of these ancient things you call borders which are only there for protectionism and funding an elite

    universal rules for safety and human rights will only come when the rules are made by one parliment
    How's that less borders going in Australia? Still throwing those refugees on some Island?

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    Brexiteers, help me out: Why is such a massive song on dance being made about the fishing industry? I could not care less about the fate of an industry that only provided 0.5% of the GDP- it is an economic non-entity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Brexiteers, help me out: Why is such a massive song on dance being made about the fishing industry? I could not care less about the fate of an industry that only provided 0.5% of the GDP- it is an economic non-entity.
    Because quite simply we have no control over our territorial waters and they are a free for all for everyone to plunder which has decimated some coastal communities that used to rely on fishing. We get no benefit, taxes etc. From our own natural resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    How's that less borders going in Australia? Still throwing those refugees on some Island?
    yes - rascist cnuts exist everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    yes - rascist cnuts exist everywhere
    The UK immigration policy after Brexit will actually be less racist as no automatic free right to live and work in the UK for all white Europeans. And all the world will be treated equally when applying for a work permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    For sure I need help, in fact with many of your posts.

    Fex, with no comment on the content of my post you cherry pick a few words of one sentence, and arrive at the quaint notion that I need help in comprehension because I 'missed' something that somebody else posted. Are you suggesting I should agree with everything or nothing? Just how sick are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Brexiteers, help me out: Why is such a massive song on dance being made about the fishing industry? I could not care less about the fate of an industry that only provided 0.5% of the GDP- it is an economic non-entity.
    That's because Gove had a story to tell about his dad losing his fish related business due to the EU. It was an emotional attack on the EU that could be used to feed hate to the masses.

    Apparently his dad says it was all a load of bollox...but that didn't stop our Micheal milking it for all its worth.

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    Troy now going to tell us how the EU has been beneficial to the UK fishing industry. Should be good for a laugh if nothing else.

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    Well at least fishing is sustainable now, which it wasn't in the early 70s. I believe North sea cod has also recovered.

    Brexit won't make much difference when it comes to fishing quotas anyway. I think the next review is 2022 or thereabouts.

    The Farage/Johnson/Gove twitterings about fishing rights was just hyperbole anyway. How on earth there's still fish left in UK waters with Farage's silly claims is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Well at least fishing is sustainable now, which it wasn't in the early 70s. I believe North sea cod has also recovered.

    Brexit won't make much difference when it comes to fishing quotas anyway. I think the next review is 2022 or thereabouts.

    The Farage/Johnson/Gove twitterings about fishing rights was just hyperbole anyway. How on earth there's still fish left in UK waters with Farage's silly claims is beyond me.
    You do realise the EU won't be setting quotas in UK waters anymore and deciding who can fish in UK waters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
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    I then quoted the post that you missed where Switch is saying the EU will descend into chaos if there is no deal




    Let me know if you need any further help using the internet or basic reading comprehension and I will drop everything and come running...
    Let me know if there are other issues in my posts that you want to develop out of context. Happy to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    You do realise the EU won't be setting quotas in UK waters anymore and deciding who can fish in UK waters?
    I don't think anything has been agreed yet. A hard brexit could lead to the UK controlling the quotas in its waters but the main market for UK fish is not local but the EU and in order to sell to the EU it will have to abide by the common fisheries policy.

    Not as simple as the Tory mandate or you think...

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    The whole idea is to leave the common fisheries policy, if the EU want to pay more for their fish up to them. Although with Doris she will probably just give them all our fish for nothing in return.

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    These James O'Brien interviews really do add up after a while.

    Here's his exchange with a bloke in advertising who is convinced that BREXIT will have no effect on him...because he doesn't have any contracts with the EU.

    And it becomes apparent that he thinks because he has not been hired... by the Actual EU Parliament...that he won't be losing any business.

    This is how fucking stupid people are.

    I wish I could find it funny...but it's funny.

    I guess.


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    My major concerns are not those that remainers seem fixated on. I do not want the UK to be part of a fraudulent and failing organisation, that continues to induct more impoverished nations, merely as closed export opportunities. Greece was never qualified to join the E.U. and is now paying the price for the EU machinations that got them in.

    Trade partners with minimal red tape and common standards is just fine by me. Political union and ferealisation of nation states is not.

    May calling the cabinet back early, supposedly to discuss hard Brexit is all smoke and mirrors. She only wants her cabinet colleagues too scared of no deal, to vote her option down on 14 January. She believes that with their support and cajoling, enough MPs can be scared into supporting her shitty deal.
    Last edited by Switch; 27-12-2018 at 08:59 PM.

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    "My Business Will Fold If UK Leaves Customs Union"


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    ^&^^^ Some of those videos are scary. He does well to keep his cool sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    My major concerns are not those that remainers seem fixated on.
    You haven't got a clue, have you.

    You haven't got a fucking clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Let me know if there are other issues in my posts that you want to develop out of context. Happy to help.
    Are you saying you didn't make a post stating the EU would descend into chaos in the event of a no deal Brexit?

    Please deny it, so I quote your post again, further humiliating both you and Jabir in a 2 for 1 double whammy.

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