Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Try mingling with the large number of unemployed youth in Spain and Italy, they may have a different view when you ask them how the EU has benefited them.

Please explain how being part of the EU has caused high unemployment in Spain?

Please provide sources for your explanation as we know you're prone to just making stuff up or regurgitating headlines from the Daily Express which is just stuff made up by other people.

Can you also explain why other EU countries don't have any where near the same levels of unemployment as Spain?

Once again, please provide sources for your explanation as we know you're prone to just making stuff up or regurgitating headlines from the Daily Express which is just stuff made up by other people.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Try mingling with the large number of unemployed youth in Spain and Italy, they may have a different view when you ask them how the EU has benefited them.

...and the last time you were in Italy or Spain? I'd rather be mixing with them than a bunch of drunken Brits...

Originally Posted by Troy

...and the last time you were in Italy or Spain? I'd rather be mixing with them than a bunch of drunken Brits...

Ain't been to Italy for over 20 years, Spain 2 years. Although what the fuck when I last went to a country has to do with their levels of youth unemployment I have no idea.

Originally Posted by foobar

Please explain how being part of the EU has caused high unemployment in Spain?

Please provide sources for your explanation as we know you're prone to just making stuff up or regurgitating headlines from the Daily Express which is just stuff made up by other people.

Can you also explain why other EU countries don't have any where near the same levels of unemployment as Spain?

Once again, please provide sources for your explanation as we know you're prone to just making stuff up or regurgitating headlines from the Daily Express which is just stuff made up by other people.

Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Was your previous nic on here Fluke by any chance as you're certainly as dumb as him.

Quick explanation although it will over your dumb head, it's called being in the Euro, having an over valued currency and being unable to devalue to a rate that would boost your economy due to having no control over your own monetary policy. Basic 101 economics, I'll just presume you are a high school drop out.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Quick explanation although it will over your dumb head, it's called being in the Euro, having an over valued currency and being unable to devalue to a rate that would boost your economy due to having no control over your own monetary policy. Basic 101 economics, I'll just presume you are a high school drop out.

Originally Posted by foobar

Can you also explain why other EU countries don't have any where near the same levels of unemployment as Spain?

Originally Posted by foobar

Please provide sources for your explanation as we know you're prone to just making stuff up or regurgitating headlines from the Daily Express which is just stuff made up by other people.

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Originally Posted by buriramboy

Who the fuck do you think you're talking to?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Although what the fuck when I last went to a country has to do with their levels of youth unemployment I have no idea.

It was your use of the words 'try mingling with...'

They suggested you had an actual clue what you were talking about.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Who the fuck do you think you're talking to?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

There is no EU funding, it's UK taxpayers money that they kindly give us a small fraction back and dictate where it's spent.

Thank goodness or it would go towards Tory expenses...

Originally Posted by cyrille

It was your use of the words 'try mingling with...'

They suggested you had an actual clue what you were talking about.

Here we go, simple Sybil jumps in another forum retard trying and failing to point score. A TEFLer who can't follow a simple conversation. Troy was saying how all the Italians and Spanish he knows love the EU or words to that affect hence I told him to try and go mingle with the millions of young unemployed in both countries and he might get a different view. But you knew that already, dumb twat.

Originally Posted by foobar

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As I correctly predicted even economics for dummies is over your head.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I told him to try and go mingle with the millions of young unemployed in both countries and he might get a different view

A fatuous comment when such people are a million miles away from you in your grey Crewe vacuum.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

But you knew that already, dumb twat.

You continue to put the 'moron' in oxymoron.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Try mingling with the large number of unemployed youth in Spain and Italy, they may have a different view when you ask them how the EU has benefited them.

Quick explanation although it will over your dumb head, it's called being in the Euro, having an over valued currency and being unable to devalue to a rate that would boost your economy due to having no control over your own monetary policy. Basic 101 economics,

Can you explain why other EU countries( which also have the euro ) don't have the same levels of unemployment as Spain?

Please provide sources for your explanation.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I think France rather than Germany is where future issues will come from as the Frogs are going to have to cough up a lot more and a lot of anti EU feeling in France will make it a hard sell to the people. Plus if they ever round to reforming the CAP which France makes out like a bandit from, those restless froggies will be on the streets in ever greater numbers than now.

you will be happy to learn that the Yellow Vests are planning to extend their protests all the way to Brussels and stage a protest at the EU parliament with the help of local Yellow Vests

it seems that the protest movement is spreading all over Europe, and growing

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Quick explanation although it will over your dumb head, it's called being in the Euro, having an over valued currency and being unable to devalue to a rate that would boost your economy due to having no control over your own monetary policy. Basic 101 economics, I'll just presume you are a high school drop out.

even though you do raise valid points regarding EU integration social costs in the south Economies, Spain has benefited more than it did cost the country socially

Spain and Portugal were dirt poor, at par with Cambodia and Burma in current SE Asia, and look what they have become now

the issue of youngsters being unemployed might also be due to the high level of "stone heads" in this country, Spain has a big drug problem with youngsters because of their lax attitude with drugs

who would to employ a youngster being under the influence 24/7 ? nobody,

a bit like England with Chavs being drunk 18 hours a day at the Pub, who would want to hire those losers?

Originally Posted by foobar

Can you explain why other EU countries( which also have the euro ) don't have the same levels of unemployment as Spain?

Please provide sources for your explanation.

You've already shown you are retarded and can't even grasp the basics after having it explained to you in simple terms. How about you explain first what you understand about differing economies using the same currency and the problems that causes just so I can gauge if you have even a.semblence of intelligence and I'll then judge if you are worthy of a further reply.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

even though you do raise valid points regarding EU integration social costs in the south Economies, Spain has benefited more than it did cost the country socially

Spain and Portugal were dirt poor, at par with Cambodia and Burma in current SE Asia, and look what they have become now

the issue of youngsters being unemployed might also be due to the high level of "stone heads" in this country, Spain has a big drug problem with youngsters because of their lax attitude with drugs

who would to employ a youngster being under the influence 24/7 ? nobody,

a bit like England with Chavs being drunk 18 hours a day at the Pub, who would want to hire those losers?

The reason why the Southern European economies boomed was access to cheap credit that they didn't have before. All was well and good till shit hit the fan and not being in control of their own monetary policy fuk all they could do about it.

the cheap credit was necessary to create growth and invest in needed infrastructure,

if Spain government was corrupted enough to use that money to fund dodgy real estate projects that went bad after 2008, it has nothing to do with EU integration and what spectacular progress has been made under EU supervision

like I said, not a black and white thing, it's all grey

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the cheap credit was necessary to create growth and invest in needed infrastructure,

if Spain government was corrupted enough to use that money to fund dodgy real estate projects that went bad after 2008, it has nothing to do with EU integration and what spectacular progress has been made under EU supervision

like I said, not a black and white thing, it's all grey

Obviously the EU didn't supervise the Southern economies well enough Greece being the worst example, with Spain and Portugal not far behind. As always in boom times people think it will go on forever, they facilitated cheap credit to them with no checks. Greece is eternally fucked should have quit the Euro and maybe the EU back in 2010 and rebuilt from ground zero.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

You've already shown you are retarded and can't even grasp the basics after having it explained to you in simple terms. How about you explain first what you understand about differing economies using the same currency and the problems that causes just so I can gauge if you have even a.semblence of intelligence and I'll then judge if you are worthy of a further reply.

Right ...so you cant explain your wild claim that the EU is to blame for high unemployment in Spain' while other EU countries( which also have have the Euro ) are flourishing with low unemployment...including the UK I may add.

And, not only are you refusing to explain this gaping hole in your 'The EU is to blame for high unemployment in Spain' theory, you are also refusing to provide any sources to substantiate this strange theory of yours.

Got it, ...so you're just pulling nonsense out your arse again.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Obviously the EU didn't supervise the Southern economies well enough Greece being the worst example, with Spain and Portugal not far behind.

Are you really suggesting the EU should become some kind of dictatorship, riding roughshod over a country's sovereignty to impose an economic policy on them?

...all very strange coming from a Brexiteer.

Originally Posted by foobar

Right ...so you cant explain your wild claim that the EU is to blame for high unemployment in Spain' while other EU countries( which also have have the Euro ) are flourishing with low unemployment...including the UK I may add.

And, not only are you refusing to explain this gaping hole in your 'The EU is to blame for high unemployment in Spain' theory, you are also refusing to provide any sources to substantiate this strange theory of yours.

Got it, ...so you're just pulling nonsense out your arse again.

Can you not even fucking read you total imbecile, it's being a member of the Euro and having no control over your own monetary policy that is the problem for Southern European economies. Is Germany still had the DM do you not realise it would be worth more than the Euro hence Germany benefits from having a weaker currency where as countries like Spain and Greece have to put up with an inflated currency compared to if they still had the paseta and Drachma. Without the ability to devalue their currency thus making their goods cheaper to export and attract investment they were fucked sitting with an over valued currency not aligned to their economy. This is fucking basic stuff.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

it's being a member of the Euro and having no control over your own monetary policy that is the problem for Southern European economies.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Obviously the EU didn't supervise the Southern economies well enough....

Originally Posted by foobar

Ahhh your favourite meme. It might help your case if you supplied the verified sources that you demand from others, instead of repeating childish memes that have already lost any minor impact they might have had, by using them more than once.
Hi Cold Pizza!

Happy Christmas to our Brexit loving friends and fellow remainers.

The Euro and its adverse affect on southern European countries is an interesting problem. The introduction of the Euro was more political than economic and it does have its problems due to countries failing to keep to the guidelines and there being no penalties for this. However, I disagree with the general opinion of simply devaluing a currency in order to get out of economic difficulty. It is the old and lazy method that allows governments to do nothing else and look better on paper. The effect of doing this increases imports and unemployment through cheaper labour anyway. The introduction of the Euro stops this lazy method and highlights bad monetary policy and bad management in industry. The biggest problem is correcting this bad industrial management where the rich rather than the best rule.

Printing more money and devaluing currency are not the answers to better productivity.

Originally Posted by foobar

Right ...so you cant explain your wild claim that the EU is to blame for high unemployment in Spain' while other EU countries( which also have have the Euro ) are flourishing with low unemployment...including the UK I may add.

And, not only are you refusing to explain this gaping hole in your 'The EU is to blame for high unemployment in Spain' theory, you are also refusing to provide any sources to substantiate this strange theory of yours.

Got it, ...so you're just pulling nonsense out your arse again.

Quite simple, but only for those receptive to the basics; in a sentence, whoever controls your currency controls your economy. I leave you to dwell on how that might affect unemployment rates, among a slew of other trivial components.

And as the Euro declines so will the social construct, which includes, um, unemployment.

Originally Posted by foobar

Are you really suggesting the EU should become some kind of dictatorship, riding roughshod over a country's sovereignty to impose an economic policy on them?

...all very strange coming from a Brexiteer.

You never cease to amaze, now with that ridiculous conclusion by bloating one premise to extreme in an entirely different direction. Read up on Hamid's camel, might help bring you back to planet earth, and don't fret that it's a children's story.