Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Butters, I don’t know why you keep going on about Farage and UKIP..? They have been irrelevant for years in U.K., so you are way out of date.
There is no far right agenda in the uK, just a desire to rid ourselves of the socialists spending money they don’t have, just like in Europe.

Your last post seems to suggest that May has been bought and paid for. Very suspicious.

I seriously doubt Gibraltar will be an issue. The Spanish Government have to make their call to stand a chance of re-election but that's all it is.

They will tow the line when told.

However, the Maybot getting this agreement through Parliament is going to be more than tricky. Half the Tories, Labour, and the DUP are currently against it and I can't see her managing to persuade them that this is a better deal than we already have. The problem is that no-one wants to go against the referendum so they need to choose between a cock-up and a fook-up; I'll guess they'll go for the cock-up.

Originally Posted by Troy

I'll guess they'll go for the cock-up.

Which in time will be deemed a fook up if I understand Brit speak properly.

Originally Posted by Switch

Butters, I don’t know why you keep going on about Farage and UKIP..? They have been irrelevant for years in U.K., so you are way out of date.
.

you are joking, right? are you that much in denial?

the ghost of Nigel and his likes are behind all this fuckup, UKIP is not dead yet, like a hyena, it's waiting for wounded bodies to surface so it can feed on them

There is no far right agenda in the uK, just a desire to rid ourselves of the socialists spending money they don’t have, just like in Europe.

thanks for proving my point

the signature of the far right supporters, "it's all the socialists fault"

Originally Posted by Troy

I seriously doubt Gibraltar will be an issue. The Spanish Government have to make their call to stand a chance of re-election but that's all it is.

They will tow the line when told.

However, the Maybot getting this agreement through Parliament is going to be more than tricky. Half the Tories, Labour, and the DUP are currently against it and I can't see her managing to persuade them that this is a better deal than we already have. The problem is that no-one wants to go against the referendum so they need to choose between a cock-up and a fook-up; I'll guess they'll go for the cock-up.

I am sure she is threatening with a referendum behind closed doors,

what could possibly stop her from holding one ?

so the MPs are going to that giant dildo up their arse like good private school boys, it will probably remind them of the good old days

EU wins, that's all that matters

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

I am sure she is threatening with a referendum behind closed doors,

what could possibly stop her from holding one ?

Just the opposite.

Theresa May threatens 'no Brexit at all' as senior Tories put new referendum on table

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8644116.html

Originally Posted by Norton

Just the opposite.

Theresa May threatens 'no Brexit at all' as senior Tories put new referendum on table

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8644116.html

that's even worse

can't let that happen,

It also comes amid suggestions from Brussels that a summit to sign off on the draft withdrawal agreement on Sunday could be called off unless progress is made on finalising a political declaration on future relations.

24 hours to save Brexit summit as negotiators scramble to break deadlock

Amber Rudd admits new Brexit referendum on table if May's deal rejected by parliament

Government faces a 'rude awakening' over its Brexit deal, warns DUP

John McDonnell says Labour should be allowed to form minority government if May's deal fails

Pro-EU ex-chancellor Ken Clarke pledges support to PM's withdrawal agreement

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

so the MPs are going to that giant dildo up their arse like good private school boys, it will probably remind them of the good old days

EU wins, that's all that matters

EU is lose-lose, dead but twitching...first Schengen (belly up), next the Eurozone, and when Greece and Italy scuffle for their number at the Office of Illegal Bailouts it should be fun to watch the gods scramble to put a brave face on it with fissures in the background. Then they'll blame Brexit, global warming, or some poor sod's budgie!

Won't be pretty.

Originally Posted by Norton

Which in time will be deemed a fook up if I understand Brit speak properly.

Indeed, and it appears they will be the two options put forward. I don't think that remain will become an option unless the deal made fails miserably in a vote and the Maybot resigns.

Originally Posted by Troy

I don't think that remain will become an option unless the deal made fails miserably in a vote and the Maybot resigns.

I think the last two of those three events at least are highly likely.

Originally Posted by jabir

EU is lose-lose, dead but twitching...first Schengen (belly up), next the Eurozone, and when Greece and Italy scuffle for their number at the Office of Illegal Bailouts it should be fun to watch the gods scramble to put a brave face on it with fissures in the background. Then they'll blame Brexit, global warming, or some poor sod's budgie!

Won't be pretty.

You really are quite deluded and looking at the problem from completely the wrong perspective. The EU is a critical trading partner for the UK and it is in everyone's interest that it stays United. There need to be a few tweaks here and there and some reversals but to break it up completely is poppycock.

Its simples, no deal WTI and no £39Bn and see how smug the unelected muppets in buttfly land look. Just wish they'd get on with it.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Its simples, no deal WTI and no £39Bn and see how smug the unelected muppets in buttfly land look. Just wish they'd get on with it.

I suggest you buy this week's edition of The Economist and read the article starting on pp 21. You might then realise that it's not quite as simple as some folk think.

[QUOTE]"it's all the socialists fault"[QUOTE]

Butterly understands at last. Hoorah!

Originally Posted by Troy

The EU is a critical trading partner for the UK and it is in everyone's interest that it stays United.

Sure the EU is a critical trading partner, of course it would be nice if it stayed United, though the referendum wasn't called for something to while away a summer's day and we have this thing called Brexit. But well done, and in your perfect world the EU would be hugely successful and everyone safe and prosperous and happy...in which case there never would have been a referendum.

Then you could risk adding a bit of reality and view it for what it is.

There need to be a few tweaks here and there and some reversals but to break it up completely is poppycock.

Are you for real - a few tweaks and reversals? It's built on a structure that cannot survive modern times, referred to by its own leaders as a Socialist Project, embracing before our eyes a totalitarian ideology that has consistently failed, and the only way it can survive, against powerful resistance from its core, is through major reform which some flippantly call tweaks!

As for breaking it up being poppycock, are you saying it will not, cannot, or would be nice if it did not break up? Most people would go for the last, which is irrelevant since many things 'would be nice'. Ftr I am not breaking it up or asking others to; so when it does implode as I firmly believe it will, regardless of your wishes and crossed fingers, will it be my fault or that of its gods??

You really are quite deluded and looking at the problem from completely the wrong perspective.

Please explain your enlightened perspective, beyond what 'would be nice'.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Troy, i'm not saying the outcome is simple but the current negotiation, if you can call it that is no better than remain and so taking the approach of a no deal, which should have been our negotiating stance from the start would in my opinion have yielded a better deal than the current one sided farce that is on the table. I wonder how quick the EU would alter their tabled deal if we made to walk away, we've been too soft.

you are soft because you have more to loose than we do, it's really that simple, Brexitshitter

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

you are soft because you have more to loose than we do, it's really that simple, Brexitshitter

Did i say i was a Brexiteer? The vote was cast and so the aim is to deliver on the intent. What have you done with Gent, you've not split over wetpatchgate have you?

Originally Posted by Troy

I suggest you buy this week's edition of The Economist and read the article starting on pp 21. You might then realise that it's not quite as simple as some folk think.

No I haven't read that article and of course the divorce details are not a formality. But negotiations for Brexit or any other deal can only work when each side knows the other can walk away. In this respect May appears to have thrown in the towel very early, offered much for little, and now has the unenviable task of persuading Parliament to accept a deal which leaves us worse off than before and a majority of MPs have already said is unacceptable.

Not that it could happen, with her abysmal performance to date, but I say let's have another referendum, her deal or no deal no money, and watch the gods beckon her back to the table.

Originally Posted by jabir

deal can only work when each side knows the other can walk away. In this respect May appears to have thrown in the towel very early, offered much for little,

correct, regardless the UK should assume this was always open, it still is.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

you are soft because you have more to loose than we do, it's really that simple, Brexitshitter

That's a pigheaded response, though more than expected of you.

Everyone loses, that's how simple it is.

you really live upside down, or in total denial

not everyone lose, you lose

for years we want you fookers to be out, and now is our chance, we are not going to let it go

why do you think you got such a bad deal? we were simply hoping you were going to walk away and fook off for good,

alternatively, become our complete slave, which Maybot accomplished brilliantly

let's wish her good luck


Brexit: May heads to Brussels on eve of EU summit
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46325663

Theresa May is heading to Brussels later ahead of a special EU summit to formally sign off the Brexit deal.

The prime minister will hold talks with top EU officials, before leaders of the remaining 27 EU countries meet to endorse the agreement on Sunday.

However, Spain has said it will not attend unless a last-minute spat over Gibraltar is sorted out.