Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by foobar

Right, so him, his mp and his mp's representatives had a meeting to discuss a 585 page document in detail... that no one has actually read?

Have you read and fully understood every treaty, agreement and contract in detail with full understanding concerning the EU, EEC, EC and WTO? If not, how dare you discuss anything related to such matters!

Gets more paraplegic by the day!

^lol ��

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

thats Arsene Wenger?

Originally Posted by jabir

Have you read and fully understood every treaty, agreement and contract in detail with full understanding concerning the EU, EEC, EC and WTO? If not, how dare you discuss anything related to such matters!

Gets more paraplegic by the day!

Oh dear, it seems with your limited attention span you've lost track of the conversation.

Can you quote me making any such claim?

Are straw man arguments the only recourse to Brexiteers, what with their low education, non existent critical thinking and who have had their opinion handed to them by right wing rags like The Express, Daily Mail etc?

ps
Paraplegic relates to a physical disability of the legs so unrelated to mental or intellectual capacity in anyway shape or form.

Be sure to research your insults, lest you expose your own limited intellectual faculties which will only serve to further reinforce the overwhelming evidence that all Brexiteers are idiots.

Let me know if you need me to explain any of the larger words I've used.

Came across this in The New Yorker. An interesting read.

New Evidence Emerges of Steve Bannon and Cambridge Analytica’s Role in Brexit

For two years, observers have speculated that the June, 2016, Brexit campaign in the U.K. served as a petri dish for Donald Trump’s Presidential campaign in the United States. Now there is new evidence that it did. Newly surfaced e-mails show that the former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, and Cambridge Analytica, the Big Data company that he worked for at the time, were simultaneously incubating both nationalist political movements in 2015.


Emma Briant, an academic expert on disinformation at George Washington University, has unearthed new e-mails that appear to reveal the earliest documented role played by Bannon in Brexit. The e-mails, which date back to October of 2015, show that Bannon, who was then the vice-president of Cambridge Analytica, an American firm largely owned by the U.S. hedge-fund billionaire Robert Mercer, was in the loop on discussions taking place at the time between his company and the leaders of Leave.EU, a far-right nationalist organization. The following month, Leave.EU publicly launched a campaign aimed at convincing British voters to support a referendum in favor of exiting the European Union.

The U.K. narrowly voted for the so-called Brexit in June, 2016. The tumultuous fallout has roiled the U.K. ever since, threatening the government of the Conservative Prime Minister, Theresa May.


Bannon did not respond to requests for comment. But his name and private e-mail address appear on the chain of three e-mails in October, 2015, between Brittany Kaiser, the director of program development at Cambridge Analytica, and Arron Banks, who headed the Leave.EU campaign and referred to himself in the title of his memoir as one of “The Bad Boys of Brexit.” Banks could not be reached for comment regarding the e-mails, which were first published Saturday by the British Web site openDemocracy.



Remainder of story here. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...role-in-brexit

Interesting read

The Men Who Want to Push Britain Off a Cliff

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/o...-politics.html

^ Good find, should be mandatory reading for every Brexiter.

Originally Posted by lom

Good find, should be mandatory reading for every Brexiter.

I read it. So? Have I changed my mind in wanting a hard Brexit? No.

^They got that covered...

If they were reasonable people, the pro-Brexit faction would now be shocked into facing reality. But they are not.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I read it. So? Have I changed my mind in wanting a hard Brexit? No.

I didn't expect you to change your mind, stubborns rarely do that.

It was an opinion piece by a journalist. OK for a read but it didn't say anything we didn't already know.

Brexit is good for everyone

it's good for the EU, no more Brits fookers in the decision making process

and it's good for the world, it will keep all the English chavs stuck in their miserable island when the GBP hits parity

Originally Posted by Humbert

Interesting read

The Men Who Want to Push Britain Off a Cliff

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/o...-politics.html

brilliant and precisely explained in real terms, very accurately put

but the cold light of truth will be too hard to look at for any Brexitshitters

doesn't matter anyhow because we really need Brexit, the EU needs it desperately, even if we go hard Brexit

this is Victory day for all of us, and we are not far. The remaining Gaullists in the EU have won!!!

Originally Posted by OhOh

But let's belive another "opinion writer" with no skin in the game.

How is it that she has no skin in the game? She is a brit after all.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Or anything the British voters weren't taking into consideration

Really? The 'leave' propagandists vastly exaggerated the benefits and minimized the down side.

I've changed me mind. I'm now a 'Remoaner'.

No Deal Brexit could see Mars Bars run out in TWO weeks as food experts warn Michael Gove that gridlock at Dover could shut down production

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

British Prime Minister Theresa May on Monday vowed that Brexit would level the playing field for migrant workers in the UK, with migrants from the European Union (EU) no longer be able to jump the queue ahead of those from countries like India.

crazy old witch, I am not sure this is what the actual agreement says

Brexit plan will stop EU migrants 'jumping the queue'
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46257168

She also said she was not willing to reopen discussions with Brussels over the withdrawal agreement, saying "the core elements of that deal are already in place".

She said that she expected to hammer out a framework for a future trade relationship in Brussels during "an intense week of negotiations ahead", before signing off the deal at a summit on Sunday.

"My job is to get the best deal," she said. "Parliament must then examine it and do what's in the national interest."

She said the final stage of negotiations "was always going to be the toughest, but we have a deal".

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

I am not sure this is what the actual agreement says

Here you go. Read it and give us your opinion.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/15/u...ntl/index.html

Biggest punch and judy show this side of the pond. Murica has Trump Will He Won't He and we have the brexit charade. A year later and still on track. Only slight variation is they are probably going to go for a "peoples vote" rigged to accept Mays deal (remain basically) or Remain (remain). Clever fuckers.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

So, I was chatting to a bloke when the referendum happened, and the result was leave. I said the following;

They will never let the UK leave. What will happen is the tory filth will appoint a hard line EU Federalist as PM, who along with hard line pro EU federalisation BORIS will do everything they can to keep the UK in the EU. This will include giving a final vote to the MP filth to stay in, confuse the public making them think being in the EU will be better after all, and part of the deal to stay in the EU will be that the UK accepts the Euro.

Theresa May - EU Federalist.
Within a month of negotiating, agreed that if the UK stays, it will do so under the EU's rules, which includes the Euro.
All this mucking about is the confusion part, and meanwhile the EU military, which dictates the equipment and who makes it, is in full swing and marching onwards.

So right on track for the UK to stay in and accept the Euro. All pushed by the very same people who if they were not complete and utter retards would know that leaving the EU is the true LEFT thing to do. Hell, may is a fascist. She loves the EU. Blair loves the EU. Obomba loves the EU. All the worlds fascists and criminals love the EU.... take a fecking hint you limp wristed wasters cheering on the EU.

The only reason belgiums like the EU is that it gave that shit house country a bit of cache for a while. Back to being a nothing country again though which is handy because it is the belgium county of Europe now, and not a country.

UK Exit will never happen because the people who own the country will never allow it to happen. If anyone thought that voting made a difference, just remember that if it did, they would not let us do it #catalan

An now Buttfly's dego friends add to the EU united front

The Spanish government raised serious concerns about the status of Gibraltar as a result of Brexit during a meeting of EU27 ministers this morning.


The Spanish government told the gathering that two articles of the withdrawal agreement (184 and 3) taken together add up to Gibraltar remaining permanently as UK territory. Spain claims to have been taken by surprise when the draft was published last week.


They say Gibraltar’s status cannot be part of the “territorial scope” of the future relationship.


They also say the transition period should have a Gibraltar-specific element and should only be extendable for a maximum of one year, not the two years mooted by the European Commission.


European diplomats say Spain’s concerns appeared serious and genuine, but most member states and the European Commission and the European Council don’t agree with Madrid’s reading of the text and are seeking to provide reassurance.


In the worst case scenario Spain might not consent to the final deal.

Originally Posted by Humbert

How is it that she has no skin in the game? She is a brit after all.

I'm not aware of her income sources or any assets. Are they generated and/or invested in the UK?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Really? The 'leave' propagandists vastly exaggerated the benefits and minimized the down side.

More so than the the "stayers"?

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

She also said

yea, yea, yea ........

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

She said that she expected

Expectations can be sorely dashed.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

"My job is to get the best deal," she said. "Parliament must then examine it and do what's in the national interest."

She now places the blame on the parliament, washing her hands of any result.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

She said the final stage of negotiations "was always going to be the toughest, but we have a deal".

Liar. She has a proposal which she has handed onto others to accept or refuses. She has delivered to the British public nothing at all, yet.

OhOh fook off, this is not a Russian thread, you dont get it at all, almost as bad as the Brexitshitters

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

An now Buttfly's dego friends add to the EU united front

The Spanish government raised serious concerns about the status of Gibraltar as a result of Brexit during a meeting of EU27 ministers this morning.


The Spanish government told the gathering that two articles of the withdrawal agreement (184 and 3) taken together add up to Gibraltar remaining permanently as UK territory. Spain claims to have been taken by surprise when the draft was published last week.


They say Gibraltar’s status cannot be part of the “territorial scope” of the future relationship.


They also say the transition period should have a Gibraltar-specific element and should only be extendable for a maximum of one year, not the two years mooted by the European Commission.


European diplomats say Spain’s concerns appeared serious and genuine, but most member states and the European Commission and the European Council don’t agree with Madrid’s reading of the text and are seeking to provide reassurance.


In the worst case scenario Spain might not consent to the final deal.

haha

that would be the day Spain causing a hard Brexit